Re: Internet Traditions: I Wonder How He'd Explain The Hoohole Edition

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The Dilbert cartoon.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 8:38 PM
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The full comment:

I thought it was due to the old Dilbert cartoon.
"On any day except Thursday, if you need an answer, yell your question into the mineshaft. There's a guy at the bottom who replies."
"Why not on Thursday?"
"It's your turn in the mineshaft."

Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 8:41 PM
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"My two favorite things are Protestant theology and hunting hippies for sport commitment and changing myself."


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 8:41 PM
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And Gesellschaft comes from African animal husbandry.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 8:45 PM
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2: I like mine better.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 8:47 PM
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The horns themselves or what you use to kill them?


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 8:47 PM
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Oops. I meant to link to Kieran's much cleverer comment about "Mineshaft" coming from Gemeinschaft.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 8:48 PM
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1 is great, Thurberian.


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 8:49 PM
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6: Animal husbandry, IDP. You must abase yourself to achieve true understanding.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 8:50 PM
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Your joke wants to keep the original meaning of schaften, mine wants to pun the whole word in English.


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 8:55 PM
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The original meaning of schaften is "cock"?


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 9:08 PM
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2: That's a boring, sanitized version of an old navy joke, with a mineshaft instead of a barrel and a question instead of a cock.


Posted by: Hamilton-Lovecraft | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 9:10 PM
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Ask the Glory Hole!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 9:11 PM
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12: a question instead of a cock

Lo, how the mighty have fallen.


Posted by: minneapolitan | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 9:15 PM
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The thing about mineshaft jokes, is that many have been gone over before.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 9:23 PM
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I ask a serious question, in a serious, respectable forum. And what do I get?


Posted by: Brad DeLong | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 9:24 PM
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11: I won't claim not to have thought of it, but it's not the joke I thought you were making.


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 9:29 PM
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I ask a serious question, in a serious, respectable forum. And what do I get?

A flippant answer, in a frivolous, disreputable forum.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 9:29 PM
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Another day older and deeper in decorum.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 9:30 PM
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19 wins.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 9:34 PM
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Mr. DeLong. Fancy Berkeley job and respectability OR NO, you are not exempt from reading the archives.

Hmph.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 9:38 PM
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I ask a serious question, in a serious, respectable forum. And what do I get?

No closer to ejecting John Yoo, apparently.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 9:39 PM
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it's called "ask the mineshaft" because the place used to be fun, like a drugged-up san fran gay bar from the 80s. Now it's merely used with a plaintive, nostalgic irony.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 9:59 PM
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Michael, go stand in the corner over on Standpipe's blog.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 10:04 PM
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san fran gay bar from the 80s

It was a leather bar in the Meatpacking District in NYC, actually.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 10:05 PM
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Goddamm you people. No standards any more.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 10:07 PM
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No standards any more.

Yes, a return to standards! The first word of your comment is misspelled, ma'am.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 10:09 PM
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How many roads must a man walk down before you call him a man? The answer, my friend, is in the mineshaft.


Posted by: Mo MacArbie | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 10:11 PM
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I ask a serious question, in a serious, respectable forum. And what do I get?

I tried like, three times to answer on your blog, DeLong. But it kept rejecting my comment. It was as if it didn't want to know.


Posted by: slolernr | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 10:11 PM
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Just out of curiousity, B., how did you feel about the Vatican II endorsing the celebration of the eucharistic rite in the vernacular?


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 10:12 PM
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Heh.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 10:14 PM
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It was better celebrated in the nude.


Posted by: Mo MacArbie | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 10:14 PM
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But more to the point of 30, the plague of biblical literalism makes me realize that Mother Church may have had a good reason to keep the durn thing in Latin.


Posted by: Mo MacArbie | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 10:17 PM
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I ask a serious question, in a serious, respectable forum. And what do I get?

Shafted.

At least you weren't required to assume a wide stance by the leatherboys in the bathroom.

max
['All while a Baptist minister explains that he isn't really gay.']


Posted by: max | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 10:19 PM
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Mother Church may have had a good reason to keep the durn thing in Latin.

...and to keep it ritualistic and liturgical. My amateur observation: the more a congregation/pastor purports to be "Bible-based", the fewer words of actual scripture will be uttered in the course of a Sunday service. And such Bible verses as are recited will inevitably be of sound-bite length and shorn of context.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 10:24 PM
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This evening I attended a dinner for some new recruits for my company. Some of us old hands were telling stories (in the spirit of putting the young folk at ease) about various egregious fuckups we had made along the way (the implication being that they could make mistakes without ruining their careers). I told a story, the punchline of which involved the "dueling banjoes" tune from Deliverance. It immediately became apparent that the cultural reference was lost on most of the new hires. The global head of HR, who was seated at the table, jumped in to explain, but stuck to vague circumlocutions that didn't clarify the joke. To drive the point home, I managed to utter the words "anal violation" in full earshot of six new hires and the global head of HR. Tomorrow I will either be the toast of the freshman class, or unemployed. Or both.


Posted by: KR | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 10:30 PM
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Goddamm you people.
The first word of your comment is misspelled, ma'am.

She was cursing in German, dude!

max
['I got me the fliegerspitzel.']


Posted by: max | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 10:34 PM
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Slippeth bus and sloppeth us.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 10:36 PM
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Domine, defende nos!


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 10:41 PM
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Oh, KR.

Besides, they're all too young to even remember Burt Reynolds at all, let alone the odd good movie he made.


Posted by: Mo MacArbie | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 10:48 PM
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i thought

forced anal violation:corporations::postmodern philosophy:architects


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 11:03 PM
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in other words, KR, maybe you're just a guru


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 11:03 PM
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i thought
forced anal violation:corporations::postmodern philosophy:architects == sharing a cream sandwich with Labs and Apo.

max
['Fixored.']


Posted by: max | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 11:23 PM
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I'm not quite sure what 41 means, but the reference to architects reminds me that spending all my time at an architecture school is starting to get to me. Not that it isn't still a worthwhile experience, of course.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 11:24 PM
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the theory is very simple, teo. x leads to y which may lead to p which is in the domain of q.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 11:37 PM
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36,40: I do feel badly for Ned Beatty at times; forget Tim Russert, just wait until Beatty dies if you want to see disrespect on the Internet in the immediate aftermath of death. From IMDB it appears that that was literally his first movie appearance.

But I will say that the "This is the weekend they didn't play golf" poster is surely one of the best movie posters ever.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 06-18-08 11:51 PM
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Masonic induction ritual not to your taste, or something, teo?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 12:02 AM
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The first word of your comment is misspelled, ma'am.

In fact, I used to spell it damn, until some asshole on this blog got all offended at my being hoity-toity, so I decided to slum with the gente. You'd know that if you read the archives.

Can't win for losing, I'm telling you.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 12:23 AM
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Double-m is acceptable when followed by "it".


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 12:27 AM
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49, meet 27.


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 12:35 AM
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25 or 6 to 4.


Posted by: Doug | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 3:07 AM
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I Wonder How He'd Explain The Hoohole

"It's some dumb thing somebody said once, that somebody else thought was funny, and some other people kept repeating over and over again long after it stopped being funny to anyone at all."


Posted by: strasmangelo jones | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 7:15 AM
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I Wonder How He'd Explain The Hoohole Human Language

"It's some dumb thing somebody said once, that somebody else thought was funny, and some other people kept repeating over and over again long after it stopped being funny to anyone at all."


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 7:23 AM
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Did you ever see Beatty in the Irish little movie I'll Sing My Song?


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 7:40 AM
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The one about Josef Locke? Over here, at any rate, it was called Hear My Song . Would be suitable for Becks' grandmother, when I come to think about it.


Posted by: emir | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 7:44 AM
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54, 55: Did you ever see Beatty in the Irish little movie I'll Sing My Song?

No , it looks decent. He has had a couple of other pretty good outings, Nashville for instance, but if you have any doubt as to his legacy, take a look at the only graphic on his Wikipedia entry.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 8:32 AM
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56: that's not his only legacy for long!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 8:33 AM
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Some of Beatty's finest work has been tragically overlooked.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 8:35 AM
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It's listed as "Hear My Song"; I must have misrembered the title.


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 8:37 AM
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Hear My Song is well worth watching, and from what I remember is indeed grandmother suitable. A sweet movie, well-acted, with a lot of music.


Posted by: JL | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 8:50 AM
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Besides, they're all too young to even remember Burt Reynolds at all, let alone the odd good movie he made.

No, we remember Boogie Nights.

I would put Deliverance in the same realm as "Who Shot J.R.?" in terms of resonance with Generation Awesome. We know it happened but do not know what it was, and nobody suggests that it is still worth watching, so nobody does.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 8:54 AM
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What? Deliverance is awesome. Anybody who fails to suggest that it's worth watching is lying by omission.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 8:56 AM
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And people wonder why `generation awesome' isn't catching on.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 8:58 AM
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While waiting for a prescription to be filled a few monthes ago, I read a guest essay in a newsweekly by James Dickey or maybe his son, comparing our predicament and the president's in particular to the situation in Deliverance. Mostly the mindset that got us into it and what needs to be learned to get out.


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 8:58 AM
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63: besides that it's fucking stupid, of course.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 9:01 AM
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It's my understanding that it is only used ironically, by people on this blog. If that is wrong, I will stop of course.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 9:02 AM
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Bush sure has a purty mouth.

(Cue my Cheney-Matalin-Carville-Clinton blow job joke. I called her "Clinton" to avoid sexism).


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 9:02 AM
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66: oh, sure, hide under the twin cloaks of irony and anonymity.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 9:03 AM
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Generation Awesome is fucking stupid? But of course.

The little shits.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 9:03 AM
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I'm proud to be a member of Generation Adequate.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 9:05 AM
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Generation Possum!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 9:06 AM
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I'm of two minds about being a member of Generation Ambivalent.


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 9:06 AM
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I'm proud to be a member of the generation that Richard Hell named.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 9:12 AM
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64: I believe James Dickey died some years ago.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 9:39 AM
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64, 74: Yes, I think I remember the article too, and it was written by his son, Christopher Dickey.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 9:47 AM
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68: Anonymity And Irony live together in perfect harmony
Side by side on my computer keyboard oh lord why dont we?


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 10:24 AM
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Considering "generation awesome" was a throw away joke in a thread at Becks' blog a few years ago and people still use the term, ironically or not, in comments here, it sort of has caught on.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 11:52 AM
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Becks has a blog?


Posted by: Fatman | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 11:55 AM
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I read a guest essay in a newsweekly by James Dickey or maybe his son, comparing our predicament and the president's in particular to the situation in Deliverance.

So America is a bunch of soft suburbanites, unprepared to deal with violence and lawlessness, and Bush is a rapey hillbilly with a crew of criminal rubes?

Sounds right to me.


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 12:09 PM
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Who is our Burt Reynolds, then?


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 12:14 PM
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80: I don't know, I only read the summary on Netflix.


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 12:16 PM
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79: that's actually not a very good summary. I suspect he meant Bush was the soft suburbanite [ SPOILER ALERT ] unprepared to deal with what he encounters out in the woods, but ready to counterattack in wildly inappropriate ways against the innocent.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 12:19 PM
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Dammit, man. We need someone to come along and put a center-shot arrow through these guys. Admittedly, Ned's already been raped, but they'll come back.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 12:21 PM
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OTOH, Bush's lifelong penchant for casual sadism makes it easy to imagine him barking "Squeeeaal like pig!"


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 12:23 PM
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82: I was making up my own essay. And my own movie. I thought it was great!


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 06-19-08 12:29 PM
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