Re: NYC Meetup: Chopper Edition

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"I am in nothing if not a rut" would be more felicitous.


Posted by: peter | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 12:13 PM
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That's it. I'm having my own meetup, and nobody's invited!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 12:14 PM
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1: no no; LB, were she ever to exit the rut she is in, would blink out of existence instantly. Meeting at Fresh Salt is, for her, a survival imperative.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 12:15 PM
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A rut is just a grave with the ends kicked out of it.


Posted by: Your annoying high school assistant principal | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 12:20 PM
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Will he be bringing bacon? A credible promise on this score might do wonders for attendance.


Posted by: KR | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 12:21 PM
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I'd actually restrained myself from demanding homecured pork products as the price of setting up a meetup. But I was thinking it.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 12:29 PM
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A rut is just a grave with the ends kicked out of it by zombies.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 12:29 PM
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And thanks, Stanley. Commenting from work is one thing, but I'm holding the line on not posting from work.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 12:30 PM
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Ah, rutting zombies.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 12:30 PM
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Kickin' it zombie styleeee.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 12:31 PM
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I'd actually restrained myself from demanding homecured pork products as the price of setting up a meetup

Relevant life lesson:
Country ham found in your luggage by the TSA inspectors in the Charlotte airport = smiles and good wishes.
Country ham found in your luggage by the TSA inspectors in the Philadelphia airport = supplemental screening.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 12:32 PM
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When I was out of town, I bought a book by Osamu Dazai (a Japanese writer). I decided that given the author's first name, the better part of valor dictated that I put it in my carry-on instead of my luggage. (I've had my luggage searched more times than I have been screened.)


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 12:37 PM
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I'm holding the line on not posting from work

Heh. It's understandable. I don't think you're a sucker for having principles.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 12:37 PM
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Next time I fly with a country ham I'm going to get a multimeter, tape it to the ham and stick the probes in.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 12:38 PM
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The multimeter is not a very useful unit of length. now3adays people demand more precise measurements.


Posted by: peter | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 12:39 PM
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Alas, I'm not coming directly from Minnesota, or I could totally bring some home-cured prosciutto. I'm fresh out of bacon at the moment--trying to get through everything in the freezer before we order the next pig.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 12:49 PM
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Next time I fly with a country ham I'm going to get a multimeter, tape it to the ham and stick the probes in.

This is just conjecture, but I suppose it could be that sodium nitrate (saltpetre, NaNO3) is spectrographically similar enough to ammonium nitrate (explosive ingredient, NH4NO3) to trigger the alarm even without the hardware.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 12:58 PM
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Chopper - I'll be flying back from Minneapolis Monday afternoon. Want me to pick some up for you?


Posted by: mike d | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 12:59 PM
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17: I thought salpetre was potassium nitrate? Also, given that it's an key ingredient in gunpowder, maybe that chemical's flagged it's own self.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 1:02 PM
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OUT, DAMN FOUL APOSTROPHE!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 1:03 PM
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I thought saltpetre was potassium nitrate

So it is! Wikipedia says that NaNO3 is colloquially known as "Chile saltpeter" to distinguish it from KNO3.


Posted by: KR | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 1:08 PM
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20: Fuck you too, Tweety.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 1:13 PM
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18: Strangely enough, my wife might react weirdly to a stranger swinging by and asking for cured meat products, even if warned in advance.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 1:13 PM
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cured meat products

IYKWIM


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 1:14 PM
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Mike D, make sure that when asking Chopper's wife for the meat, you should be constantly winking with both eyes, and repeatedly say "No euphemism intended", and "No double entendre intended".


Posted by: peter | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 1:15 PM
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17: It would depend on where the ham was in the curing process, I guess--it breaks down over time, from nitrate to nitrite to nitric oxide.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 1:16 PM
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22: banned!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 1:17 PM
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23: I thought y'all were supposed to be friendly-like out there in the Midwest.

25: A nod's as good as a wink to a blind bat, eh?


Posted by: mike d | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 1:24 PM
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23. And I thought Minnesota was supposed to be friendly. Maybe they meant Michegan.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 1:25 PM
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When I was out of town, I bought a book by Osamu Dazai (a Japanese writer).

I suspect that No Longer Human might raise eyebrows along with the "Osamu." No way is the TSA letting any nihilist terrorist on board an airplane.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 1:25 PM
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dammit, Mike.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 1:29 PM
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I find it's quicker to respond if I don't have to spell out the whole name, mon frère.


Posted by: mike d | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 1:31 PM
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23: I'll buy you a beer if you make it to the meet-up (and stop insinuating that we talk like someone from rural Alabama).


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 1:38 PM
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This is probably a good place to mention that the Portland meetup originally scheduled for this Saturday has been postponed indefinitely. Unless Will shows up with a salmon, in which case we'll figure something out.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 1:43 PM
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Instead of a beer, how 'boot a SO-Da?


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 1:44 PM
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I'd actually restrained myself from demanding homecured pork products as the price of setting up a meetup.

Unless Will shows up with a salmon

The customs of Northerners are strange to me.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 1:46 PM
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It's called a potlatch, Michael


Posted by: peter | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 1:54 PM
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34: How about Friday?


Posted by: Not Prince Hamlet | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 2:00 PM
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34: It's ogged's fault, isn't it?


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 2:18 PM
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38, 39: It is ogged's fault, indirectly. Or maybe more directly than I know. I'm game for meeting up Friday or Saturday, if folks are around. Are you on the Continent, NPH?


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 2:24 PM
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Not yet, but will be in PDX on Friday, then up into Washington and BC for a few days. Current plan is to leave Friday evening after my sister gets home from work, so Friday lunch/afternoon would work but evening probably doesn't. Will probably also be back in PDX for the day on Sunday, 8/24, but it's hard to plan because getting away from my folks' place in Washington gets a little difficult sometimes.


Posted by: Not Prince Hamlet | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 2:37 PM
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41: Email me, I'll be around.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 2:43 PM
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11.2 -- It's a well known fact that Al Qaeda operatives take a ham with them, in case they get hungry during the operation. Another easy tip-off is the beer they bring along, in case they get thirsty from eating all that cured ham.


Posted by: Nápi | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 2:46 PM
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43: why else would they be called "Hamas"?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 2:48 PM
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Dang. I keep thinking that one of these times I ought to take the Chinatown bus down for one of these gatherings, but probably not while I'm in the middle of moving house.


Posted by: Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 2:49 PM
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I'll be there.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 2:53 PM
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Talking of meetups, any plan for UnfoggeDCon III: Ogged's Revenge? C and I are planning a few days away towards the end of the year - current favourites are Lisbon in November (to see Sigur Ros - C is obsessed with them) or DC nearer Christmas. Both places I really like and would love to revisit. Or perhaps we should go somewhere new ....


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 2:56 PM
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I'll be there, but on the early side - I'll have to leave 8-ish.


Posted by: mike d | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 2:56 PM
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I hear it's gonna be happenin' in San Francisco between Christmas and New Years. That's what I hear.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 2:57 PM
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SF? That would rule. Will someone let the NYT know about the change of venue?


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 3:01 PM
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46, 48: Sweet!


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 3:14 PM
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I would be happy about a West Coast unfoggedCon (or even more jealous if I still couldn't make it).


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 3:22 PM
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I hear it's gonna be happenin' in San Francisco between Christmas and New Years. That's what I hear.

Why, say, I do believe the MLA is also meeting in San Francisco around that same time!


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 3:26 PM
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Nice. I'll be freshly married.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 3:33 PM
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Recently confirmed:

1. Di Kotimy ain't dumb.
2. Girls fight dirty.
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Posted by: Jimmy Carter | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 4:13 PM
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Well, that's enigmatic.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 4:15 PM
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A rut is just a grave with the ends kicked out of it.

Wouldn't that be a "rav"? I don't get it.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 4:27 PM
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Also, all this talk about the dangers of flying with cured pork products is making me even more nervous about my projected plan to fly with some $150 plus-worth of oil paints. Obviously, I was going to buy solvents at my destination, and obviously, I was going to put the wee metal tubes in my checked luggage (each in its individual sealed plastic baggie), but God, I really couldn't afford to replace everything should the TSA decide they represent a Threat to National Security. And of course there are all kinds of nasty chemicals in oil paints. Fuck.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 4:31 PM
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JM--Can you make it next Tuesday?

Also, can you ship the paint?


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 4:33 PM
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No reason I can't be there on Tuesday, and no, I don't want to ship the paint because I want to be using it right up until then. But maybe that is the only realistic solution. I am SO not going to use watercolors, which are Satan's own medium.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 4:46 PM
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Watercolors are awesome!


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 5:00 PM
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Hardly surprising that you would like them


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 5:04 PM
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^, demon.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 5:04 PM
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In the spirit of meetup planning, I disclose here my willlingness to rendezvous next week with any Puerto Rican lurkers.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 5:06 PM
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People are just going to let 55 sit there? What's the deal, peanuts?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 6:09 PM
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I couldn't make my mind up about that one, and it's not actually offensive, just dumb. And whomever wrote it knows a bit about the site.


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 6:14 PM
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That one should be a whoever.


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 6:16 PM
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66: shit I don't want it deleted, I want the back story.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 6:20 PM
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Yeah, but the APA is going to be on the east coast, because it always is.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 6:20 PM
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64: You're willing to travel anywhere in the world to meet a lurker, as long as they're from la isla del encanto? You have a very demanding fetish.


Posted by: mike d | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 6:20 PM
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I'll be at the meetup. Not sure if I'll bring any of my Puerto Rican lurker friends; they've been emailing me that they are a bit wary of Stanley's advances, although they remain a generally warm and friendly people.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 6:44 PM
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All the Puerto Rican lurkers are supporting me in e-mail, I'll have you guys know.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 6:50 PM
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It seems that Di gave the Prez some romantic advice that he tried out, and now he's licking his wounds and granting Di her due.

Quick, to the archivesmobile! Are there any recent Carters in comments?


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 7:06 PM
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The only other scenario is a legal one, less likely I think.


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 7:20 PM
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oh well, I'll be in VA volunteering for the Obama campaign.


Posted by: tkm | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 11:26 PM
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75: Where? I keep meh-ing the local campaign's e-mails because I'm still mad about FISA.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 08-12-08 11:30 PM
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It seems that Di gave the Prez some romantic advice that he tried out willfully ignored, and now he's licking his wounds and granting Di her due.


Posted by: Jimmy Carter | Link to this comment | 08-13-08 4:11 PM
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75: Where? I keep meh-ing the local campaign's e-mails because I'm still mad about FISA.

There's a "vote for change" booth in front of the ferry building every sat, and I keep wanting to go up to one of the d00ds and basically run the fafblog line about will the relevant change now be that a black man is spying on us? But I never do.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-13-08 4:21 PM
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76 NoVa. At least at first. For all the talk about Obama's great ground game, the volunteering stuff is a complete mess - no real coordination, at least from a New York or national level. The stuff I've done so far has been at the initiative of the old Edwards NYC volunteer director getting directly in touch with local Obama offices in PA. This time it's someone I met on one of those trips getting directly in touch with the VA state director who she knows from working on the campaign in the primaries. There's a whole lot of enthusiasm for volunteering in New York which is getting wasted with people doing local stuff.


Posted by: tkm | Link to this comment | 08-14-08 9:41 AM
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Anyone know if there's a big GOTV thing around election day in the Pittsburgh area? Volunteering in NY is pointless, but I could take a couple days off and visit my sister while driving people to the polls, I suppose.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-14-08 9:50 AM
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Sweet. I land around 3 at Laguardia, will bounce over to my hotel and check in, chill for a little bit, and then try to be over around 6:30-7 as well. Here I am with abu-Labs.

P.S. I am not a midget.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 08-19-08 7:08 AM
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the volunteering stuff is a complete mess

Ah, it only gets mo' better. Two or three weeks 'fore the big vote, d-crats got hundreds of folks joinin' the house par-tay for BO, lookin' for street peeps to fill out bogus voter registration forms, ACORN homie style, doin a lil' pimpin' and sling some krak if need be too . Representin' like a mutha-f er


Posted by: Dupree | Link to this comment | 08-19-08 7:43 AM
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80: IME, the need for blockwalking is usually greater than the need for giving rides, but in any case, I think the county Democratic party organization is the best avenue in a lot of places to sign up to volunteer. Perhaps the Pittsburghians among us know different.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 08-19-08 7:52 AM
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80: LB, I will check—a good friend here has been a "block" organizer for Obama so he should know what the overall plan is.

In 2004 it was pretty much an uncoordinated mess here, I forget the name of the group I ended up "working" for, but ended up on street corners trying to coordinate lists with other folks from other organizations I saw out and about so that we didn't end up hitting the same people multiple times. In fairness, it probably was not as bad as I am remembering it, tinged as the memories of the whole day are with sadness and rage.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 08-19-08 8:30 AM
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Didn't MoveOn have an independent GOTV operation in '04 that was pretty good? And maybe another group, too?


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 08-19-08 8:41 AM
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Just FYI, one reason that a lot of '04 stuff was such a mess was the prohibition on 527 orgs. (ACT, MoveOn) coordinating with parties or candidates (plus additional restrictions on labor), so that we weren't allowed to coordinate lists. I know it drove voters crazy.

In Fort Lauderdale, we'd run into an ACT crew walking out of the same apartment building we were walking into, but we didn't know if were targeting the same people. We were allowed to talk only to union households, and we didn't know if they were hitting all the Dems, just the unregistered, or what. So we didn't want to skip those buildings, but people hated us.

I phonebanked one union retiree who'd been called countless times who started explaining to me how they'd done it back in the day ("one guy would get a part of the list so no one else could call those names"). When I told him about the 527 stuff and the other complications, he was sympathetic.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 08-19-08 9:41 AM
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So, to the update: how did Stanley get strep from Buck, anyhow? And why is he driving all the way to New York just to spend a half hour at the meetup?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-19-08 9:46 AM
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Don't think I can make it tonight. Do your best to have fun without me.


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 08-19-08 9:50 AM
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86: so that we weren't allowed to coordinate lists

Ah. so our informal street corner meetups might have been election fraud! I am the problem that Karl Rove is trying to fix.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 08-19-08 9:50 AM
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So who's coming? Chopper, LB, AWB, Jackmormon, Mike D, and me?


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 08-19-08 9:57 AM
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So bummed I won't be there.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 08-19-08 10:03 AM
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I will be there, but it's right after my first session with my new therapist. YAY! I'll probably get something to eat afterward and get down there around 7.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 08-19-08 10:04 AM
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Y'all should have another meetup tomorrow at Lincoln Center at 6PM.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-19-08 10:06 AM
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We miss you too, Becks -- why did you switch jobs, again? Was it really worth it?

And yay, AWB: If you're emotionally raw after the session, you can at least get a beer to cry into.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 08-19-08 10:08 AM
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93: ZOMG that looks good; maybe I'll skip the book reading I was going to tomorrow and do that instead. AWB and I went to the Wordless Music "800 Years of Minimalism" there last Friday, but it was mostly rained out, so we only got about 50 years of minimalism.

Besides the Sam Amidon show on Saturday, there's also a free Yo La Tengo show at McCarren Pool on Sunday, the last free show there before they convert it back into a real swimming pool. And David Byrne's installation thingy downtown (he wired a decrepit building to make noise when you play on an organ keyboard) closes Sunday, so I have to try to get to that, too.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 08-19-08 10:13 AM
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I will be on the early shift tonight - I'll get out of work 5:30-ish and then have to leave around 8pm.

I desperately need to go see the David Byrne thing before it closes. Maybe I'll do that immediately after work and not spend two hours drinking by myself before everyone else shows up.


Posted by: mike d | Link to this comment | 08-19-08 10:37 AM
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94: Alcohol can be very helpful and therapeutic for those recovering from therapy.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-19-08 10:48 AM
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I'm going to have to leave by 7:30ish, so I'll make part of the early shift.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 08-19-08 11:16 AM
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I think I may be there, on the earlier side of the evening.


Posted by: Chris | Link to this comment | 08-19-08 1:34 PM
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kobe says I'm here.


Posted by: chopper | Link to this comment | 08-19-08 4:26 PM
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More drunken liveblogging!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-19-08 5:17 PM
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Oh, zut! I am, as of this afternoon, in OH. Rock on, somehow, without me, NYC.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 08-19-08 5:40 PM
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oudemia, I don't think I've ever seen anyone actually use the word "zut." It's in all the textbooks, often as "zuta, alors," but we quickly learned that actual French people were likely to say "merde."


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 08-19-08 5:46 PM
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I don't think I've ever seen anyone actually use the word "zut."

(A search on yahoo also only picks up five results, but not the same five results.)


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-19-08 5:49 PM
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Oh, golly. I don't think that I have ever heard a French person say "Zut!" or "Zut alors!" but it's the kind of thing that shows up all over, say, the Guardian to signal "Frenchitude."

Would you have been happier with "Putain!" Or would that be misogynist?


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 08-19-08 6:04 PM
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hook em Fresh Salt woo!


Posted by: chopper | Link to this comment | 08-19-08 7:29 PM
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should I go catch the Amidon et al 802 show? Doors opened 15 minutes ago. It's that or Magnificent 7 or Battlestar Galactica on the couch. I wish it was drizzly here too.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 08-19-08 7:35 PM
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Don't be a twerp, Wrongshore.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-19-08 7:38 PM
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OK, fine. I'm going.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 08-19-08 8:04 PM
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105: I always giggle a little inside when I see the name of the Russian President rendered in a French publication as "Putine", the better to avoid the unfortunate homophony with the popular curse word.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 08-20-08 2:55 AM
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