Re: Something unpredicted—but, in the end, will it have been right?

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Quid your quos, boy.


Posted by: Lunar Rockette | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 12:14 AM
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He will receive money from emusic, you know.

Check out the second blockquote here. I would not have expected this, either.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 12:17 AM
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I was at a concert recently at which there rare event

Somewhere an angel is crying.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 12:19 AM
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Every war has casualties, Michael.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 12:22 AM
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and therefore stood to profit in presumably not just one way from selling to me, this cd,

Don't think I enjoy this


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 12:23 AM
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Of course he will. But what's his name?


Posted by: Lunar Rockette | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 12:24 AM
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I assumed that a man with your knowledge of mixed drinks was an old veteran of that war.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 12:25 AM
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There actually isn't a mistake in the bit highlighted in 5, if you look at the whole sentence from which it's been excerpted.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 12:29 AM
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His name is D-mon Sm-th.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 12:31 AM
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I'm picking on your penultimate comma


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 12:37 AM
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10: I'm aware. I contend that it is perfectly justified.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 12:39 AM
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You're a fine one to kibbitz, anyway, Michael; you can't even be bothered to terminate your sentences with a period.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 12:42 AM
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I contend that come the light of day that light of sobriety will dawn opening your eyes to the light of reason, and realize you've misused a comma for the first time in over a decade.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 12:46 AM
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^you'll


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 12:46 AM
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I leave my sentences open ended because they're works in progress


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 12:47 AM
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Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 12:48 AM
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Our Exagmination Round His Factification for Incamination of Michael is a Dumbass


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 12:49 AM
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Don't expect me to make a practice of cleaning up after you, Michael.


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 12:49 AM
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If you want my advice, jms, you oughtn't to get involved in trying to improve Michael. I've seen too many good people hurt that way.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 12:50 AM
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It's true. I cannot possibly be improved upon.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 12:57 AM
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With no tail? I don't think so.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 12:58 AM
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I mean a literal tail, not the figurative kind.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 1:00 AM
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Preliminary googling turned up this, which is worth a link, anyway.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 1:03 AM
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I'd respond to 17, but I can't actually make it out. My best guess is that it's a magic spell of some sort.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 1:04 AM
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Basically, Michael, what it means is that you're uneducated.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 1:08 AM
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23. I had completely forgotten about that. good times.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 1:11 AM
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25. Who among us in not, in some sense, uneducated?


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 1:18 AM
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Re #21:
Dude, you're a total man-slut. Aren't you ashamed of your hole-digging ways? Word.


Posted by: Big Daddy Billings | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 1:54 AM
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Ben, any chance you've seen one of these? It's called a whisper mute and it's intended for practice sessions in tiny Japanese apartments. (Anywhere sufficiently dense should do.)

I didn't know a sax mute existed. The neat thing about it is the pickup, meaning (to me) that you could play the horn and produce relatively quiet acoustic sound yet produce sound volume through pedal and amp.

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Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 6:21 AM
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Uneducated, maybe, but not inexperienced.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 6:27 AM
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of which he had apparently only bought one copy,

Why would he have bought a copy of his own cd?


Posted by: Counterfly | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 8:29 AM
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Why would he have bought a copy of his own cd?
Maybe he believed in supporting the arts. And also he knew the artist needed a sale.


Posted by: Tripp | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 8:31 AM
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This is a topic fertile with discussion points.

I make my living off intellectual property, and I also support the arts, so in general I agree that creators should be rewarded for their worthy creations. From a practical standpoint if you like what they have made - pay them something so they will be encouraged to create more like it.

Some people create for free. More power to them. Some people use the invisible hand of the marketplace to grab our balls and squeeze. Fie on them. And some people use the coercive power of the government to grab and squeeze, and a pox on them.

Where will the music industry end up? My guess is that it will put more emphasis on live performances as the way to make money. More like live theatre and less like film, which is starting to have the same problems as music.

Since I have no real skin in the game it is interesting to watch from the sidelines.


Posted by: Tripp | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 8:39 AM
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He only brought one copy. Jesus.

Armsmasher, I'm not even sure what I'm supposed to be looking at in that picture. That just looks like a case?

Jorrit Dijkstra put a little rubber ball in his sax. That's kind of like a mute, I guess.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 9:37 AM
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How could I have possibly misread "sax" as "ass"? Doesn't seem very likely. Yet it happened, just now, while reading 34.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 9:38 AM
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35: Were you perhaps thinking about where the hand goes in a French Horn?

34: Ben, I liked the original better. It was humorous. You da man!


Posted by: Tripp | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 9:47 AM
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34-36:

You know what the Greeks said - 'nix noxious carburetor.' That was when they invented the fuel injector. Unfortunately it took a couple thousand years before it was useful.


Posted by: Tripp | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 9:49 AM
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Where will the music industry end up? My guess is that it will put more emphasis on live performances as the way to make money. More like live theatre and less like film, which is starting to have the same problems as music.

I don't know where the industry will end up, either, but I'm not sure that's the answer.

I know many music fans and performers would be happy to see more emphasis on live music -- particularly since many performers don't make much money off recordings. But, for the industry as a whole, I'm pretty sure that the potential market for live music performances is much smaller than that for recorded music, so there a strong incentive to keep selling recorded music -- even if just as ringtones*.

*Projected, four years ago to reach 12% of total music sales by 2008. Given the slump in the music sales, I would guess that the actual number is higher than that, but I can't find a current value.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 9:56 AM
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34: a case is one of many things which can be put in your butt, according to Eddie Murphy's "Boogie in Your Butt".


Posted by: peter | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 9:56 AM
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It's a fancy plastic case filled with rubber and foam, but with hand-shaped grooves cut away so you can still play it. You put the sax in and play and purportedly it mutes the horn. As in, silences it—not like a trumpet mute or some of the weirder things that players have thought to stick in saxes.

From reviews I've read that the case is sort of crappy, but it does include a pickup, and that might do for my goal to come up with an electric sax sound that is still played on reed.

Sifu: The whisper mute is also patented as a portable glory hole.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 9:57 AM
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I saw Aaron Novik playing clarinet with a pickup and running it through a bunch of pedals to obtain the novel sound of ... a tenor sax. You could try something like that.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 10:06 AM
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Oh, I see: his hands are entering the case and the mouthpiece protrudes. I bet that looks really funny, or off-color, in person.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 10:07 AM
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NickS: This is all pure speculation on my part. Part of me thinks that the selling of recordings will continue, but at either a lower price or smaller amount. In general less money for the music industry but what will be the result of that?

Most computer companies pretty much make money from software by selling support and service but that is pretty meaningless for music. If they could tie the music to something material, even something like a CD cover or better yet something a little bigger like a poster or something that would help.

In general though I really think there will be less money for the music industry, which won't be a killer, it will pretty much mean a return to when there was not mass marketing of recordings.

But who knows?


Posted by: Tripp | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 10:09 AM
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A friend of mine who works as an emergency room doctor has tons of stories about people coming in with strange things stuck up their saxes.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 10:16 AM
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Sifu, the show at Lincoln Center last night was incredible -- thanks for the heads up. Mahmoud Ahmed was sooooo great, and the Ex plus Gétatchèw Mekurya was even better than I expected.

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Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 10:19 AM
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Part of me thinks that the selling of recordings will continue, but at either a lower price or smaller amount. In general less money for the music industry but what will be the result of that?

I agree with that; that's already happening.

My worry is that the music industry shows signs of copying Hollywood and putting even more emphasis on "blockbuster" hits. Thankfully the difference in production costs between film and music means that even if the big labels put less and less effort towards marketing smaller acts, that won't shut them out of the music industry.

It's easy to hope that the music industry will move in the direction of less hype and more direct connection between artists and audience -- which would be good. But I worry because I remember that, like any industry, the majority of dollars aren't spent by music fans, they're spent by casual listeners. The money-making part of the industry is always going to be chasing the consumer who is, essentially, waiting to be told where to spend their money (or, at least, wants something predictable in a music purchase).

I don't know what will methods will be used to appeal to those fans.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 10:26 AM
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Even if the music industry fails to move to more of a direct connection between artist and audience it seems the artists themselves are doing this via the internet. Hopefully this is sustainable without the music industry itself. Will it provide enough revenue for the non-blockbuster musicians to make a living? I dunno.


Posted by: Tripp | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 10:32 AM
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45: excellent! I'm glad you made it. Yeah, I was just totally blown away by them when I saw them. Were there lots of joyful Ethiopians mixed amongst the hipsters?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 10:35 AM
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Yes, mostly joyful Ethiopians, the usual Lincoln Center smattering of retirees, and plenty of hipsters. WFMU sponsored the show, and that tends to bring out a better sort of hipster.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 10:37 AM
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You know, Ethiopians can be dour, angry, bitter, elated, foolish, and all the rest—not just joyful. Racists.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 4:21 PM
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50: I completely agree with you, but at the Getachew Mekuria/The Ex show, they expressed emotions on a continuum ranging from joyful, through joyfully drunken, to joyful, drunk, and bursting with song.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 5:08 PM
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Actually that's not entirely fair. Some of them were joyfully bursting with song but not actually drunk.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 5:08 PM
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Of the Ethiopians I've known well, one was sardonic and alienated, one was resigned and easy-going, and one was cheerful and talkative.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 5:11 PM
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The problem with this post is that it gets that stupid Green Day song stuck in my head. I keep changing my mind on whether or not I think Ben did it intentionally.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 5:21 PM
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Ben's always droppin' the subliminal Green Day. "W-lfs-n" is just a pun on "Dookie".


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 5:23 PM
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Oo-ee-oo. Ben looks just like Buddy Holly.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 5:26 PM
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56: Oh-Oh, and you're Mary Tyler Moore.
... not that you care what I say about you anyway.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 7:30 PM
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I didn't intentionally title the post so as to provoke earworms, but I did intentionally title the post with reference to the song, though I don't think I knew it was a Green Day tune.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 7:32 PM
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W-lfs-n is much more intweresting, though no more comprehensible, when one is Becks_style. Inb case you were wondering.


Posted by: Magpie | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 9:02 PM
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W-lfs-n is much more intweresting, though no more comprehensible, when one is Becks_style. Inb case you were wondering.


Posted by: Magpie | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 9:06 PM
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W-lfs-n is much more intweresting, though no more comprehensible, when one is Becks_style. Inb case you were wondering.


Posted by: Magpie | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 9:08 PM
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Truw, tue magpiw!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 08-21-08 9:11 PM
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