My visit of a 8000'/2400m high cheesemaking chalet in the Swiss Alps where cheese is still made like 300 years ago - and not one tourist in sight!The machinery in the picture in the first link suggests that this is not entirely accurate.
I agree about the hotness and idyll, uh, idyllicity, though. Also, feel free to correct the spacing problem in 1; I'm not sure why that happens when I use blockquotes.
Blessed are those people. And all manufacturers of dairy products.
Idyllic reminds me of the south west of Norway inland from the coast.
Hotness indeed. There is something to be said for freckled red-heads.
Didn't we have a whole thread about what can and can't be said about freckled red-heads?
what can and can't be said about freckled red-heads
You can certainly tell me how sexy freckled redheads are. Because I'm a feminist.
Freckles are like carbonation in the sack.
Sweaty freckles are like condensation in the sack.
Raised, irregular, or multicolored freckles are cause for consternation in the sack.
It actually depends on the kind of cheese- I've been making my own mozzarella and it's only 88 degrees, whereas something like ricotta is very hott at 190.
Feckless sweaters deserve condemnation in the sack.
Sunscreen keeps freckles off your sack.
Licking sunscreened sack-freckless might cause constipation in the john.
I contemplate John's sack-freckles when I'm constipated.
John's feckless constipation was not contemplated.
I thought cheesemaking was a man's job, like mining and fishing, because of the cooties.
Cooties from the cow? You're doing it wrong.
Emerson's cootie contemplation complicates cheesemaking.
Curdling is a delicate process that needs to be cootie-controlled. Just randomly blasting the milk with the whole cootie arsenal produces inferior cheese.
Emerson's cootie-controlled curdles create champion cheeses.
Yes, I am facing a deadline. Thank you for asking.
SP - Are you planning on taking a go at hard cheeses? Have you tried making chevre? (I did, and it was a total bust. Not sure what I did wrong.) Fresh mozarella, though: so easy.
heebie,
Didn't we have a whole thread about what can and can't be said about freckled red-heads?
Oh yes, and if you noticed I am not actually saying anything about that this time. I said 'there is something to be said about red-heads' and I am leaving it at that. I'm not going down that mineshaft again.
Nope.
And you know there is something to be said about Math Professors too.
I visited a cheese factory in Wisconsin because, you know, Wisconsin/cheese, enough said.
The most interesting part to me was the press, mostly because it seemed the most scaled-up and seemed to use the most power. I'll tell you, the industrial age may have ruined farming but it sure allowed massive production of some yummy foods like cheese.
This was like Momma made but extremely quality controlled and huge quantities. Very impressive.
Minnesota is very gratifying WRT local sausages, smoked pork products, smoked and pickled fish, etc., but the cheeses here are lame and generic. I can get sharp cheddar but nothing better. You have some sort of creamery every ten miles, and at least one cheese plant, but nothing artisanal.
and at least one cheese plant, but nothing artisanal.
Sounds like a good hobby for you John. You could go underground and make artisanal unpasteurized cheeses. Stick it to the man.
There's a cheese shop in a creamery down the road. Maybe I'll stop in and put a bug in their ear.
Maybe I'll stop in and put a bug in their ear.
Excellent idea, but you'll need more than one mite.
And you know there is something to be said about Math Professors too.
We are rigorous and covered with chalk in the sack.
I know, you need all that chalk to grip the balance beam, pommel horse, et cetera.
Chalky, like many fine cheeses.
American Muenster doesn't hold a candle to European. They're actually two different cheeses.
1 - "She places a giant lawn mower on top the cauldron and attaches the strings to a car battery" - ha.
Asilon, you don't understand. Cute girls can get away with any damn thing.
Math professors and hot freckled redheads are like chalk and cheese.
I encountered some cheddar in Scotland that was weapons-grade sharp. Put-your-eye-out sharp. My nuts retract into my abdomen just thinking about it. That was some mighty fine cheddar.
24- So far I've done and eaten ricotta, mozzarella, kefir, creme fraiche. I've made a pound of jack and two pounds of cheddar, which are aging- the jack will be ready in September, the cheddar in December. This brought up a question of why cheddar and jack are so much cheaper than fresh mozzarella in stores even though they take so long- I guess the former keep much better and can be stocked.
Also, goat milk is obscenely expensive unless you own a goat, so I don't plan to try any goat cheeses.
very gratifying WRT local sausages
IYKWIM
Asilon, you don't understand. Cute girls can get away with any damn thing.
Oh John, I understand very well!
(Can you hear my eyelashes fluttering?)
Red hot checkers for the sneezing, frex.
Didn't we have a whole thread about what can and can't be said about freckled red-heads?
Did we? I'll have to point it out to BR.
I had some delicious Mountaineer cheese tonight. mmmmm good.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Freckled redheads are all hookers, without exception.
And not the kind of hookers you want to mess with, either.
I must be blind, because the person in the photo doesn't appear to be either freckled or a redhead.
If you are blind perhaps you can read the freckles, like Braille?
The Grauniad's latest Commenter has a wicked cool picture. The profile, however, is too short.
I would love to see a vice-presidential debate featuring the Cryptkeeper. Maybe he can be moderator if McCain passes him over.
And that MBA from a university whose very name makes peoples' hearts beat a little bit faster
D.H. Lawrence University? Nora Barnacle College for Women? The Business School of O?
She chickens out in the end because the guy is hairy. Poor Ogged. She actually has to pay off the madame.
Why do you tease Bitch, PhD with these things, JE. The article seems more fiction than fact, but what do I know.
One Olivia is mentioned in the article. Is it our [former] Olivia?
There seems to be no reason to think so; for one thing, that person was English, not a New Yorker, and attended Oxbridge, not a Northwestern university.
Ewww, I thought 52 was a joke. I guess I should put JE on my never-click-the-links list.
Can we go back to talking about artisanal food? I've heard rumors this "bespoke coffee" is better than delicious.
Sweet baby Jesus. Don't let Tripp catch you buying that stuff, or he'll send a planeload of starving Kenyans to crash the party.
Witt, I clearly labeled the fascinating article I linked. It's a genre by now.
Ben, perhaps she tweaked her persona.
I know you're thinking: "If she was going to tweak her persona, why would she leave her business name unchanged?"
She did it just to rankle your ass, that's why.
61: Some of it is from Kenya, TLL.
Dude, Emerson, affect is hard to read online. I think I can be forgiven for not getting that 52 was actually in earnest.
Ugh, I dunno, maybe I'm just really, really OD'd on young-women-writing-transparently-for-approval genre. Or is just that I've had a lousy week of secondhand observation of the perfidy of the patriarchy.*
*N.b. concern trolls: I did not say "men."
Ass rankling is her loss leader.
If I were funnier I could make a good suggestive remark out of "rankle," but I'm not. Free joke! Where's heebie? Where's apo?
Too cheesed to rankle tonight, Witt.
61: Some of it is from Kenya, TLL.
Makes the logistics easier, Witt. Coffee and angry mob in one delivery
Ugh, I dunno, maybe I'm just really, really OD'd on young-women-writing-transparently-for-approval genre.
I suppose it's possible this happens, but I've certainly never observed it firsthand.
Witt, I of all people am always straightforward.
That's what we love about you, Emerson.
(Which reminds me: It's probably too much to use "straightforward" twice in a single grant proposal, right? Yeah, that's what I thought.)
Um, I only just now realized that 70 was an OD joke rather than some comment on transparent. How strange that I assumed this blog would leap for the sex rather than the drugs.
I read the article just to find out what Witt was taking about. Bad Witt!
One commenter, a self-proclaimed escort, says the article is bullshit. More interestingly, she suggests that it's a common fantasy that (some) women have. I'd always assumed that the target of an article like that was men, so it's interesting to think about how an article like that could be women.
73: standpipe says your first instinct was correct, over on his other blog.
An article can't be "women", Walt. "Women" is a noun.
Sure, an article isn't "women". But it's interesting to think about how it could be, Sifu.
77 is women stupidest thing I've ever read.
How can I be expected to make sense when there are so many starving children in the world?
South Dakotan playing basketball for Russia.
"I like the harsh climate and flat, treeless steppe", she explains.
Man, I could really stand to get a good rankling right now.
max
['I suspect that the movie Whore is probably a more accurate representation than the Radar article.']
There is something to be said for freckled red-heads.
Something to be said? Nay, everything to be said.
81: Never get let down by someone new.
Boy, the story below the link in 81 is infuriating:
After former Pakistan president Pervez Musharraf on Tuesday declared that he had no plans to flee to some other country and wished to stay in his home country for the rest of his life calling Pakistan as his "first love", Washington changed its earlier stand and said that it was ready to consider his asylum bid, if any.
According to the Daily Times, a US State Department spokesman said that though so far the US had not got any asylum application from Musharraf, but will study it and might consider it, if made by the ex-president.
I suppose in the long run it's not a very important story, as I imagine it would never happen in a million years, but that something like that is even considered by Rice and the rest of the State Department is really a perfect example of just how broken the people in this administration are. In case you forgot, last week we ruled in court that a guy who gave Osama bin Laden a ride in his car has to spend the rest of his life in solitary confinement. On the other hand, a brutal dictator who allowed bin Laden to hide in Pakistan after murdering 3,000 Americans will be offered tips on where the good schools are.
The first time I saw that video, I thought it must be a parody of the real video, like Alanis Morrisette's video for "My Humps".
Don't try to change the subject from the fact that you made me read about happy hookers, Witt. You are the patriarchy's best friend.
You know what's totally not infuriating? Arugula. I just had some, to make sure, and nope. Not infuriating at all.
Arugula is one of the best pizza toppings there is. Discuss.
Neither happy nor a hooker if I read the first page right, Walt. (No, I didn't go past that.)
You know what's totally not infuriating? Arugula.
Except if you're John McCain's spokesman.
Except if you're John McCain's spokesman.
He'll come around when results indicate he's anemic.
I'm holding out for the introduction of the McArugula Salad.
Olbermann just said something about how Obama picked his VP and there will be a text message announcing "his name" (emphasis mine). So sexist.
For the rest of the evening my name will be Violetta.
I'm sorry. I'd laugh if a hooker told me her name was "Violetta." "Ha, ha," I'd say. "Darling Violetta! Are you Bela Lugosi's mistress or are you a member of the band responsible for the theme to Angel?"
(I thought this was funny: Thread Of Counterfeit XKCD cartoons. Some of them are even better than the originals.)
Arugula is one of the best pizza toppings there is. Discuss.
Correct!
I'm sorry. I'd laugh if a hooker told me her name was "Violetta."
With a name like that, she will fast be outcast from her castle with nary a friend!
52 worst article ever.
Incredibly rich young women can meet incredibly rich young men and exchange sex for money!!! I fail to see why the madam needs to be involved.
39: Yeah, but $13 gallon of goat milk = 1 pound of chevre, which is pretty damn cheap.
Arugula is awesome. I'd bet good money that John McCain agrees.
My friends, arugula is not a green we can believe in.
Huh. Kevin Drum is leaving Washinton Monthly to go blog at Mother Jones, and Hilzoy and Steve Benen are taking over his old digs.
103: what! That's... I think it's awesome?
I'm so confused.
Kevin Drum at MOTHER JONES? What the hell is up with this (mixed-up, crazy) world?
This has been reported previously, people.
Yeah, I know, Drum at Mother Jones.
Steve Benen and Hilzoy are going to make WM formidable.
I think Hilzoy said she's just going to be cross-posting at both ObWi and WM, a secondary role to Benen. Still.
It's like ... it's like ... if Ogged started posting at WM! Oh.
I mean, like if sauselgy left the Atlantic! Or if McMegan moved to, um. Or if. Uh.
Actually I have no idea.
Mother Jones is not as doctrinaire as is popularly imagined. I think the one non-negotiable issue is support for organized labor*, an issue on which Drum takes a pretty orthodox liberal stance (and not for reasons of political correctness--he has obviously given a lot of thought to it).
*exceptions permitted for corrupt or racist unions
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Study Says 'Gaydar' Is Real
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Hmm, photographs self-selected by individuals to be used in internet ads or to be put on a social networking site; what could go wrong with that?
Men have a greater presence on the Internet than women? That sounds a little... dubious.
I don't understand why anyone feels the need to spend money finding out what any of us could tell him.
94: Violetta is a very famous call girl name, cf. La Traviata!
Gaydar is useless in Wobegon, I think. Mine isn't so good but it goes off pretty often, both for men and for women. Part of it is that people are so inept and indifferent about impression management that they don't know what they're projecting.
I do know two actually gay guys here, and they would be picked out by most people here, being well-mannered, well groomed, well-dressed, intereste din cooking, etc.
I don't understand why anyone feels the need to spend money finding out what any of us could tell him.
Well, the interesting finding to me was that there was relatively little difference in accuracy from 50 milliseconds to ten seconds, but a statistically significant difference between 33 milliseconds and 50 milliseconds. Apparently, it takes at least 50 milliseconds for the gay-ping to travel up the optic nerve to the brain.
Gaydar is useless in Wobegon, I think.
Because so many people use gaydar detectors, maybe?
Ben,
I must be blind, because the person in the photo doesn't appear to be either freckled or a redhead.
Now there is some might fine logic!
Because full blown red-heads are so rare one needs to be on the lookup for hints of it. Many times photos blur some of the hints.
Shoot, movie stars routinely hide their freckles with makeup which I find totally stupid and totally old-fashioned but they don't care. Why hide freckles?
And on the subject of Drum and Mother Jones - if the general take is that he is not good enough that is wrong. He is good enough. If the general take is that he is not left enough - well, that depends. We all know the shift to the right has made us in the middle be on the left. So what is left 'enough?'
I've stood up for Drum before and I know it is irritating when I disagree with people and then I'm right but really, what would you have me do?
If you need to be wrong then I will make this bold prediction. This year the Minnesota Vikings will finally win the Super Bowl! That's right. Bet on it!!
I figure if I'm gonna be wrong I might as well be obscenely happy about it.
Violetta is a very famous call girl name, cf. La Traviata!
"Ha, ha!" Violetta would tell me. "You boorish person with your silly pop songs and your silly TV shows. You cannot afford me!"
Apparently, it takes at least 50 milliseconds for the gay-ping to travel up the optic nerve to the brain.
Now, see, that is really cool.
Once I replace my optic nerves with Monster Cable, I'll be able to spot teh gay before they even enter the room.
119: I remember Bave saying that gaydar is also useless in Salt Lake City, or at least on the BYU campus. That makes a lot of sense to me.
I don't have very good gaydar, but I do have excellent Christiandar. You know those guys who hang out at cafés with a large book under their arms, looking around all the time but not seeming to be perving on anyone? Christians. They also tend to have out-of-date haircuts and a slightly stiff gait. Sometimes large-eyed wire-rimmed glasses. NO ONE KNOWS WHY.
126: And then the gaydar detectors will be upgraded with fiber-optics and the arms race continues!
I'm not sure "Christiandar" is a neologism that needs to exist, AWB. In fact, I think we're quite better off without it.
I have moderately good lezdar. Unfortunately it triggers my "wow she's really got that certain something I could totally fall in love with" response instead of the "I bet she's a lesbian" response. Fully half the women I find genuinely interesting in terms of serious relationship potential turn out to be lesbians. And no, they aren't just faking it to get rid of me - the evidence is unambiguous. It could be that my expressing an interest *causes* lesbianism, OTOH.
I'm not sure "Christiandar" is a neologism that needs to exist
X-dar? Jeezdar?
133: I vote for X-dar. It sounds like such a super power that way.
I have an unerring sense of when the local NPR station is about to play a Dar Williams song. What should I call this?
Speaking of lesbians, Rachel Maddow.
My son's cousin from Idaho Falls says he can spot a Mormon two blocks away. He himself was Mormon up to age 10 or so.
131/32: I too like women with short hair and glasses.
X-dar? Jeezdar?
(Under the breath) "I smell... fish."
133: I vote for X-dar. It sounds like such a super power that way.
How about Xsidar? Yeah, I know the Greek letter is Chi but Chidar sounds cheesy. Besides, Chi is pronounced Xsi, at least in my frat.
Xsidar is kewl.
This one is actually pretty cool.
You know those guys who hang out at cafés with a large book under their arms, looking around all the time but not seeming to be perving on anyone? Christians. They also tend to have out-of-date haircuts …
For the last time, I'm NOT Christian.
Kotsko pervs, but he's Christian. The theory is unempirical and void.
141: singing in a western M!!!^achusetts swamp. Hmm... maybe if I change my state to "Buttachusetts" godtube won't correct my spelling.
Will they never learn.
144: I think they all actually are. All the Christian dudes I knew who haunted the coffeeshops in Cleveland were always trying to get all the hot Chinese girls to join his impromptu Bible study.
I had a quibble about the reporting of the study that John expressed infinitely more pithily than I could:
"Better than chance"! Science!
Gaydar is useless in Paris. (Alternatively, Parisian men are all gay.) I went to a gay bar in Paris, and the men looked exactly the same as all Parisian men.)
143: ... but not seeming to be perving on anyone?
For the last time, I'm NOT Christian.
Why would we think otherwise?
I don't perv on anyone in coffeeshops.
Ben's just being modest. He's Christian where it counts.
149 is like claiming "I never masturbate."
Gaydar is useless in Paris.
OTOH, the capacity to distinguish between biological females and really convincing trannies is useful bordering on indispensable.
Maybe Ben doesn't frequent coffeeshops.
To make up for the discrepancy, I masturbate in coffeeshop bathrooms.
Ok, DS? Is that what you wanted to hear? God.
Gaydar is useless in Paris. (Alternatively, Parisian men are all gay.) I went to a gay bar in Paris, and the men looked exactly the same as all Parisian men.)
Hey- quit stealing my gig. It's like you never heard of eurofags.
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