Re: Finally we can dismantle the blog

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The comments are horrifying there, though. Like asking YouTube commenters to save your marriage.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 11:31 AM
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the place to go when you want to say unhelpful things about other people's problems. And you get to vote! and see results!

Ya know, if you wanted to see some results and distract people and other fun stuff, I betcha W-lfs-n has some cock pictures you could post.

max
['Surely that would gay it up.']


Posted by: max | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 11:33 AM
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Actually, max, g3nitalia at unfogged dot com has only received one cock picture and no pictures of any other genitalia.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 11:35 AM
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"When we dated and were engaged, David would open doors, pull out my chair at dinner, buy me random gifts, hold my umbrella, and make me breakfast every morning. Now that we've been married 3 months, all those things have disappeared.
He's attitude hasn't changed. He's still the sweet guy I've always been with. It just seems like he's starting to move into marriage mode where those things mean less to him now. It's OK at times but even my friends are starting to comment on it. I don't think I've changed at all. I still do everything that I used to and more. I'm not mad. Just a little worried he's changing."

VERSUS!

"Hello. I still do those things for you. Maybe I forget occasionally but you always remember everything. But, since you are bringing up changes you think I've made, I have a few that you've made and haven't noticed. The biggest one is our sex life. It's dwindling. We used to have sex at least 3-4 times a week. Now, I'm lucky to have it once every two. I miss that about you. The other I'll mention is your lack of interest in my day. You used to care about how my day went. Now it's usually all about yours. You never ask anymore. I know you got the new job and you're excited but I have things going on that you should be interested in knowing.

C'mon, that site is genius.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 11:38 AM
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Every time I get that little Surf Control message when trying to visit a website, I like to think that I'm one time closer to losing my job.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 11:40 AM
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"Genius" in the sense of "exactly as boring and depressing as real life is at times when it's really boring and depressing"?


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 11:43 AM
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I admit I do get drunk when I go out but I don't do it nearly as much as he is telling. He makes me sound like a mad alcoholic!

I drink maybe 5 drinks when I go out and I get a nice buzz. I've thrown up 2 nights in the 8 WEEKS we've been dating...not EVERY night.

A personal favorite.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 11:44 AM
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6: they aren't all depressing.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 11:44 AM
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And really it's the little things. Like naming your fight "Never to a pow wow."

For sure! There's no bigger mistake a person can make than going to a pow wow.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 11:54 AM
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Awful. I won't even go past the splash page.

Is this a good place to ask, "WTF is wrong with people?"? Yes, I believe it is.

WTF is wrong with people?


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 12:05 PM
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Current headline on CNN: "OJ Simpson lawyer tells the athlete's side of the story".


Posted by: Merganser | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 12:16 PM
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11: Hmm, on my computer it's "Text messages sought in train wreck investigation".


Posted by: CN | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 12:19 PM
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Sorry--above the main headline; it's a "Live Developing Story".


Posted by: Merganser | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 12:21 PM
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sidetaker.com's making my head hurt from all the stupid.


Posted by: Magpie | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 12:31 PM
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Augh. sidetaker.com's making my head hurt from all the stupid.


Posted by: Magpie | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 12:33 PM
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14: and if you vote, you're complicit in it! It's the Stupid Flytrap!


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 12:34 PM
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Actually, max, g3nitalia at unfogged dot com has only received one cock picture and no pictures of any other genitalia.

What happened to c0ck at unfogged dot com?

max
['Surely that got some pictures.']


Posted by: max | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 12:34 PM
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c0ck was shut down and replaced with the more gender-neutral g3nitalia. The pictures submitted to c0ck vanished when ogged withdrew from blogging.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 12:39 PM
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The pictures submitted to c0ck vanished when ogged withdrew from blogging.

Yeah, that caused some real shrinkage.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 12:40 PM
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For your consideration.


Posted by: David Weman | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 1:38 PM
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4, 6: here's depressing for ya -- a comment to the situation quoted in 4 above:

Both of you need to get used to it. I've been married for 3 years now, and it's exactly like what stand-up comedians warned me it would be like.

This site is doing your work for you, Emerson.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 1:42 PM
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Reality is on my side, but hope isn't.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 1:55 PM
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it's exactly like what stand-up comedians warned me it would be like.

"Stand-up comedians - is there anything they don't know?"


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 2:39 PM
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"Stand-up comedians - is there anything they don't know?"

The guys know what I'm talkin' about, am I right, fellas?

What are the chances that Will is the mastermind behind that site?


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 4:11 PM
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How crazy are conservatives?


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 4:41 PM
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25: That Authoritarians book that Tripp is always going on about has some interesting stuff about the cognitive problems attendant on the authoritarian follower personality.

We have a guy who freelances out of my office who is a crazy right-wing evangelical and none too bright, either. A few months ago he came in with an email that convinced him Obama was a secret Muslim; amazingly, the email included a link to snopes.com in support of this conclusion. When we showed this guy what it said at that link, he freaked out. A few weeks later he was back in the office. "Okay, Obama's not a Muslim, but he has affiliations." We've finally ridiculed him out of that belief, but he's casting around for some other reason not to vote for the black guy.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 5:01 PM
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From the WaPo chat on the subject, a questioner asks, "Since the authors are both Democrats and presumably liberal, why should I take their claim as science?"


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 5:03 PM
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I am the 17th buzziest evar!


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 5:38 PM
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See, Apo, hard work and determination always bring results in the end.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 5:48 PM
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The link in 25 makes me sad. I suspect that the dynamic has to do with perceiving the refutation as being an attack on the in-group, so the natural instinct of a follower is to close ranks by rejecting the attacker, which means affirming the disproven assertion. We are apes. Stupid apes.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 6:56 PM
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25: John, people are crazy. But I'm not convinced that liberals (of which I am one) are significantly less crazy than conservatives, really, though I share the liberal perspective on almost all of the issues.

People tend to believe what they want/need to believe, and then find pretexts/rationalizations for those beliefs. Do I really believe that? I dunno. Increasingly, yes, I suppose I do. I'm willing to be talked out of this, however.

And I'm no social scientists, but! ... it seems to me that the test was too heavily loaded with political/ideological baggage. Would the results have been different had the example involved, say, some Dem politician that liberals tend to like and trust? I suspect it might have been, frankly. To truly test for a difference between liberals and conservatives, wouldn't you have to use an example that was politically neutral? something that had nothing much to do with politics at all, something with no overt political/ideological connotations?


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 7:16 PM
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Awesome pics from the Paralympic Games (is "Special Olympics" now un-PC?).

There's pics of Oscar Pistorius and other blade runners, too.


Posted by: Gaijin Biker | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 8:28 PM
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No; the special olympics and the paralympics are actually different things.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 8:29 PM
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31: from the linked post:

UPDATE: I should add that these weren't the only two questions Nyhan and Reifler asked. They also asked a question about stem cell research in which it was liberals who might be expected to resist the truth. They didn't find any backfire effect there either, though.

32: "Special Olympics" refers to people with mental/intellectual disabilities. "Paralympics" is for people with physical disabilities.


Posted by: CN | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 8:30 PM
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Those are awesome pics.

Blind soccer? Really? Wow.

And...is missing one hand really a disability for a sprinter? I guess it makes it hard to exercise.


Posted by: CN | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 8:39 PM
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I meant to link but forgot. Did anyone else see the ad at The Agonist?

Pulled now. Want me to describe it?


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 9:08 PM
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31: We are all far less than perfect epistemic agents, but it really looks like a large subset of conservatives not only hold different beliefs than we do but come to hold those beliefs differently. For instance, authoritarian followers have trouble with syllogisms -- they think arguments are valid if they agree with the conclusions, no matter how ludicrous the reasoning.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 9:32 PM
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And...is missing one hand really a disability for a sprinter? I guess it makes it hard to exercise.

It's called "angular momentum".


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 9:35 PM
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That American swimmer who was wounded in Iraq may only have one leg, but my *god* does she have an amazing ass.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 9:42 PM
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36: In loving detail. Sounds like it was juicy.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 10:01 PM
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40:Neat.

Cartoon of John McCain assfucking Sarah Palin with a bubble "Drill Baby Drill"


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 10:10 PM
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Hmmm. This is not as hot a party as I had anticipated.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 10:13 PM
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is "Special Olympics" now un-PC?

I have consulted with the Politburo, and they indicate you may proceed. But with caution, comrade.

Those are indeed awesome pics.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 10:14 PM
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25: "Obscure blog"? Can it be there is a corner of the Internets where The Apostropher's apostrophicality has not yet penetrated?


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 10:16 PM
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Cartoon of John McCain assfucking Sarah Palin with a bubble "Drill Baby Drill"

That's a bit unworthy of you, Bob, I can't help thinking. She may be a wingnut (and I'm not saying she's not), but she's the mother of a family, and I honestly (if naively) doubt she has broken faith with her husband and children.


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 10:21 PM
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I thought Bob was actually describing the ad. Have I been PUNK'D?


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 10:23 PM
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46: Oh geez, the nuance, it flies overhead and over my head. Sorry, Bob!


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 10:30 PM
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Well hang on, hang on, let's not give McManus the benefit of the doubt just yet...


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 10:35 PM
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I should love the ambiguity.

I was describing the ad. I was myself shocked by it.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 10:59 PM
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DS, please stop being so level-headed and reasonable. For all intents and purposes, this weblog is just a small, if quirky, piece of that vastly awesome and truly sublime entity that we know as America. And what do you think of Dion's chances, by the way? No, don't sugarcoat it, I can take it, really.


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 11:00 PM
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And what do you think of Dion's chances, by the way?

Sometimes, elections are difficult... and sometimes, they're murder.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 11:20 PM
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DS, you're nuts, but thanks for coming out, there's always a B team.

So Junior Harper's going to win this thing, eh?


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 11:29 PM
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Dion's trying to talk carbon taxes, and Harper's running ads that portray him as a wholesome family man. Harper in a walk, I'm sorry to say.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 11:31 PM
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You can win by portraying yourself positively up there? You don't have to demonize your opponent?


Posted by: CN | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 11:33 PM
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Oh, you can demonize, but it tends to turn off Canadian voters more. The good news is, you can still comfortably avoid Teh Issuez.

Correction: I should have said "Harper in a walk... Miami-style."


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 11:35 PM
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Harper's "whiteness" scares me, and I'm, you know, whiter than an inoffensive custard sauce on a bland rice pudding.


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 09-15-08 11:42 PM
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#51: Sometimes, elections are difficult... and sometimes, they're murder.

[cue David Caruso sunglasses flip and "Won't Get Fooled Again" scream]


Posted by: Gaijin Biker | Link to this comment | 09-16-08 12:01 AM
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#35: And...is missing one hand really a disability for a sprinter? I guess it makes it hard to exercise.

Hey, you try tying your sneakers one-handed.


Posted by: Gaijin Biker | Link to this comment | 09-16-08 12:05 AM
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So Junior Harper's going to win this thing, eh?

I wish I had more hope this were not so. Harper is a complete asshole.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 09-16-08 8:50 AM
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With great power comes great responsibility, to abuse it. And so:

http://www.sidetaker.com/story/317/getting-cold-feet

The ads on that site are great. So very inappropriate.


Posted by: W. Breeze | Link to this comment | 09-16-08 9:18 AM
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Awesome, Breeze.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09-16-08 9:24 AM
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60 is excellent.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 09-16-08 9:29 AM
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45: Mary Catherine,

I have no personal knowledge regarding Palin in this regard, but it has been my observation that being a mother or father or wife or husband or of any particular religious faith does not prevent some people from breaking their wedding vows.

It has also been my observation that with power comes temptation and opportunity.


Posted by: Tripp | Link to this comment | 09-16-08 9:47 AM
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Breeze,

That did it, you enticed me to sign up for the site.

Good job!


Posted by: Tripp | Link to this comment | 09-16-08 10:07 AM
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Nice work, Tripp. Oh, and if anyone wants the keys to the kingdom (as in, accounts and passwords) let me know. I'm sure there are other details of this relationship that would help the commenters dispense more accurate and useful advice.


Posted by: W. Breeze | Link to this comment | 09-16-08 10:20 AM
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60 is great. I wanted to comment as ogged's mom, but I'm just too lazy to sign up.


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 09-16-08 11:36 AM
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60: Too funny.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 09-16-08 11:39 AM
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Oh man, the comments on there are genius.

Don't play the color card, ogged!


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09-16-08 1:13 PM
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So 60 is a joke, right?


Posted by: Klug | Link to this comment | 09-16-08 2:01 PM
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Of course it's a joke; he never got anywhere with the lifeguard, did he?


Posted by: Gaijin Biker | Link to this comment | 09-17-08 5:18 AM
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I must say I'm having a great time with Ogged's relationship. Is it evil to play with someone's earnestness? I suppose so, but for me it is like red meat (or chocolate for women). I can't seem to resist.


Posted by: Tripp | Link to this comment | 09-17-08 8:22 AM
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You're doing great work Tripp.

This (non-Tripp) comment was pretty awesome:

Here's a funny idea: Lifeguard, why not make a quick call to homeland security? That will end the relationship quickly enough.

I can't believe it took so long for someone to play that one.


Posted by: W. Breeze | Link to this comment | 09-17-08 8:34 AM
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