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The ponies: did they go on for miles?


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 11:03 AM
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Liberals are fucking pansies and they love France. Thanks for bringing us the real thing, W-lfs-n.

I think you should write a book, but you should put a plot or some kind of narrative thread in it too along with the language.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 11:04 AM
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You are a naughty boy, young Ben W-lfs-n. Also:

advention

Adventure. Although it would have made a certain sort of (wrong?) sence if it had been advection.

max
['Cute.']


Posted by: max | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 11:06 AM
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but you should put a plot or some kind of narrative thread in it too along with the language.

Pish posh. You don't expect Ben to sully himself with that low-brow Oprah stuff do you?


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 11:07 AM
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Pontus de Tyard is a rather low taste. Among the second-string members of the Pléiade, the cognoscenti prefer Etienne Jodelle, who was a complete nut, a manic social climber who (anticipating a favorite trope of the current day) died bankrupt despite receiving a huge bailout from King Charles IX.


Posted by: JWP | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 11:08 AM
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Thanks, max. I have corrected my mistake.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 11:08 AM
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You don't expect Ben to sully himself with that low-brow Oprah stuff do you?

Of course not, which is why he needed explicit instructions on the matter.

Alternatively, he could do a series of brief, impressionistic portraits of particular character types, along the lines of "Brief Interviews with Hideous Men", each one conveying the essence of a certain Weltanschauung, just as this one summed up the essential perspective of the typical coastal academic in the humanities.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 11:12 AM
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Maybe you can lobby for inclusion in the heard-in-new-york/heard-in-the-office/etc. pages.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 11:14 AM
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Éist le glór na h-óinsighe agus gheobhair pretty much everybody.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 11:26 AM
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I love the Intertubes:

Born with Bissy-on-Fley in 1521, of a noble house of Burgundy, Pontus de Tyard will have known, during its long life to illustrate itself like authentic humanistic in one of the periods the darkest of Burgundy: that of the wars of religion. Bishop of Trawl-net, it had rare courage to preach with the ones and the others moderation. Threatened for offense of oecumenism, tormented for the unwavering support which it carried to its sovereign, Tyard showed in all circumstances of a courage and an obstinacy to any test. This man true encyclopedist, was also an emblematic figure of the cultural life and political French at the 16th century, while being first of all one of the founders of the Pléiade (first literary movement of our history), or in addition exerting his perfect diplomatic provisions by ensuring near the king Henri III the role of advising State.

Pontus de Tyard will have taken part with an unquestionable enthusiasm in this great dash of knowledge which ignited the 16th century, while being essential like one of the Masters of the modernistic thought. Here remains then the image of a man, enthusiast of culture, erudite astronomer, mathematician of talent, poet and philosopher, to which most famous and beautiful spirits turned, in search of councils and spiritual help.

Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 11:27 AM
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"Bishop of Trawl-net" = "évêque de Chalon-sur-Saône".


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 11:43 AM
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Wow. That's way worse than the likes you hear 'round my parts. I thought Berkeley was bad, but apparently we're philistines.

Of course, this is an entirely different category of "inadvertently hilarious" than what I used to hear when I was living in a converted house on sorority row at UCLA during law school--"Mom, I know it's my civic duty, but I don't have time to vote! I'm busy!" And then apparently more fighting over her busy schedule of classes and pilates or whatever.


Posted by: belle lettre | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 11:46 AM
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1: It was an overflowing lawn, in truth.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 11:48 AM
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Who'd you say that to, then?


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 11:56 AM
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TJ, you do me an injustice. I don't even know how to spell most of those names.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 12:00 PM
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You can re-quote ! Vive al Père Ubu!" at the Ohio GOTV rally.


Posted by: Econolicious | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 12:00 PM
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Wow. That's way worse than the likes you hear 'round my parts. I thought Berkeley was bad, but apparently we're philistines.

I guess Berkeley is a public university. Academics in Stanford and other elite private colleges really do talk this way -- I've heard many monologues similar to this one on the academic cocktail party circuit. I'm actually surprised you haven't, but I suppose you've spent less time in these kinds of elite circles. If you expect to get an academic job, though, Belle, I'd encourage to study this style closely and learn to integrate it into small talk with your interviewers. It's especially important to be able to draw parallels between more abstract literary / philosophical references and rapturous personal epiphanies during your European travels (the European "grand tour" is de rigeur for future academics).

Since you're in social theory, I'd avoid drawing the daring, playful progression from Renaissance humanism through post-enlightenment modernism and back to medieval architecture that W-lfs-n overheard here. Instead, I'd think in terms of early German idealism, such as Schelling and Holderlin (avoid intro philosophy commonalities about Kant and Hegel at all costs!), and the connections backwards to Greek classicism and then forward through orchestral music up to Schoenberg, and phenomenological philosophers such as Husserl who transformed idealism for 20th century thought. You might make reference to any visits you've had to Bayreuth.

I hope this helps.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 12:30 PM
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very nice
the other day my niece picked her nose for the first time, had a nosebleed, said there's is jam coming out (of her nose)!
i recalled i was very grateful to someone when i read his listing of the literature he appreciated and i was like crashed by all the different names seen like for the first time and then he wrote that Fathers and sons were the best of all, i felt kinda like relieved coz never liked the woman in there who preferred the very sympathetic father to Bazarov, in my 7th grade though
so, yeah, very intimidating, i will admire people talking like this from some safe distance


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 12:34 PM
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HA! jam

I cannot believe people put parentheses like that inside sentences. I do get the impulse to, sometimes, but never feel like the mood surrounding me would allow it.


Posted by: CN | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 12:36 PM
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the other day my niece picked her nose for the first time, had a nosebleed, said there's is jam coming out (of her nose)!

this would be an alternative conversational line.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 12:36 PM
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Remember how I was complaining yesterday about how all my ideas have been stolen before I had them?

God damn if it hasn't happened again, with my very experiences!


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 12:39 PM
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W-lfs-n is banned.


Posted by: CN | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 12:41 PM
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9 to 21.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 12:44 PM
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Flann O'Brien would occasionally write a column in Latin, and routinely in Erse, with considerable chunks of French and German here and there.

In a daily newspaper.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 12:45 PM
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I was incredibly impressed by how well written this was, and my suggestion in 2 and 7 that W-lfs-n should write a book was actually quite serious.

I withdraw my suggestion.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 12:46 PM
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-'s


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 12:46 PM
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21: I considered linking to that, ben, but I didn't want to spoil your joke. I confess that it wasn't until the mention of the nonexistent quintet that I knew the post to be fraudulent.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 12:48 PM
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I love me some Obama, but we should consider abolishing the word "literally" from the language. BHO:

let's talk about the $700,000 tax cut he wants to give Fortune 500 CEOs, who've been making out like bandits -- some of them literally

What, like in the back of the getaway car with their masks on? How do they kiss through the bandanas?
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Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 12:51 PM
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i will refrain from telling my niece's other sayings i suppose


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 12:53 PM
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I knew Ben was making some very obscure reference, rather than talking about real life. (I knew this, because Ben was typing.) I didn't feel the need to google out the original, though.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 12:55 PM
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I'm voting for Obama too, but am uneasy with the prospect of the first spam President.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 1:01 PM
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I'm disappointed Ben didn't leave in the part about telling his "butty".

I did google part of it, but I guess I wasn't committed enough to find it.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 1:03 PM
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You must tell all of your niece's saying.

My grandnephew has become extremely vain. My sister had told him that I had missed him when he didn't come up here, so on the phone he said "I'm sorry you didn't get to see me, Unka John".


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 1:03 PM
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28 doesn't bother me, but you should know I've heard Obama say "the reason is because".


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 1:05 PM
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28 clearly shows the pernicious influence of Joe Biden. He does that all the time.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 1:09 PM
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33 not on this thread i suppose, UJ
coz like i was trying to boycott it? maybe
though it's i who should be more like suspicious, never learn


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 1:16 PM
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I knew Ben was making some very obscure reference, rather than talking about real life.

well, I mean OBVIOUSLY he wasn't talking about real life (which is why I jumped on Belle's delightful credulity in 12). I just thought he was revealing himself to be an original comic genius, drunk with the delights of language.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 1:25 PM
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Dammit, Ben, why do you ruin your own joke? I wanted to see how long PGD would keep pontificating about how this is so characteristic of teh coastal elites.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 1:26 PM
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17: Damn, that's good, PGD. I have noticed that you have a bit of that conversational style well in hand yourself, and one attempts not to respond in kind, in a sort of testing/filtering procedure.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 1:27 PM
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Of course, the main point was to illustrate the extraordinary staying power of the "beards and corduroys" synecdoche.


Posted by: CN | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 1:28 PM
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PGD, I am already known to be an original comic genius, drunk with the delights of language.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 1:29 PM
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me


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 1:30 PM
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40: I was thinking exactly that.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 1:31 PM
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"Belle's delightful credulity":

Sigh. I am too trusting. I forget, never trust W-lfs-n. With one hand he holds the door, with the other he gives you a smack on the buttocks.


Posted by: belle lettre | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 1:32 PM
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In the spirit of love, though.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 1:33 PM
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The spirit, but not the letter.


Posted by: CN | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 1:35 PM
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Much like Mr. Yee.


Posted by: belle lettre | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 1:36 PM
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Next time I see BL I'm totally giving her a smack on the ass.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 1:39 PM
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This was an odd choice for a viral promotional website.


Posted by: CN | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 1:39 PM
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50: I was referring the Mr. Yee of Lust, Caution, which I saw with W-lfs-n, but there you go.

49: Oh, W-lfs-n.


Posted by: belle lettre | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 1:42 PM
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Actually I won't. Probably. I've committed myself, now, sort of.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 1:47 PM
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Lust, Caution's scene before ravine is so great, just the ravine itself, not the execution and people kneeled before it of course
it just looked like cosmos
but the love scenes were too elaborate imho


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 1:49 PM
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Wait, is this some spiel from a homeless person?

You are saying some who did not have schizophrenia said this?

Are you sure they weren't on LSD?

Please explain.


Posted by: ozma | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 1:49 PM
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Ben and Belle sitting in a tree.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 1:51 PM
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Perhaps I meant: Oh, W-lfs-n!


Posted by: belle lettre | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 1:51 PM
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I suspect 54 was actually posted by the Plain People of Ireland.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 1:52 PM
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53: I agree with you, Read.


Posted by: belle lettre | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 1:52 PM
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If only you had kept your mouth shut a bit longer W-lfs-n, I could have seen whether I'd gotten Belle to bite on 17.

Next time I see you, I'm smacking you on the ass. Hard.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 1:53 PM
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I could have seen whether I'd gotten Belle to bite on 17.

a) don't flatter yourself.
b) belle is a lady, you know.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 1:53 PM
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not that, ravine
the open mines it was maybe i recollect


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 1:54 PM
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but the love scenes were too elaborate imho

I think you mean hott. (Or is that spelled hawt?)


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 1:57 PM
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hott. (Or is that spelled hawt?)

Both are incorrect.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 2:03 PM
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I was thinking Lust, Caution was to some extent modeled after Notorious, but then I read that it was based on a novella. I wonder if the similarities are accidental rather than a conscious choice.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 2:06 PM
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The novella was an adaptation of Notorious. 100% true.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 2:07 PM
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63: Clearly I was describing Tony Leung and Tang Wei as "horizontal-axis wind turbines", IYKWIMAITYD.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 2:10 PM
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I've committed myself

Probably a sound policy.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 2:10 PM
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elaborate
less believable i meant
that mr. yee could so spare her and her comrades
but his life is like ended with her anyway


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 2:11 PM
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68: Sorry, read, I wasn't really questioning whether "elaborate" was what you meant. I was mostly just joking, although I do disagree: I thought the sex scenes worked well in the context of the film, and contributed something to its psychological depth. Most of the people I've discussed this with don't agree with me, though.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 2:39 PM
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that's ok, sometimes i use some words instead of others, meaning some other completely different thing and not knowing that myself
and i was joking too but you couldn't tell
that's pity, miscommunication


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 3:22 PM
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OT: Have MRH's children been announced here yet? Babies! A boy and a girl! Adorable, too!


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 3:26 PM
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Oh yay!


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 3:29 PM
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5:27am this morning. Boy is 4lbs. 15oz., girl is 5lbs. 1oz. They're ridiculously beautiful, and Mrs. H looks very well.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 3:32 PM
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Are there photos anywhere? I guess that would be awfully fast.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 3:33 PM
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Just via email, so I don't think it's my right to share, but MRH promises they will update their flickr and sparvey blog soon.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 3:34 PM
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I was going to say that the pretentious jerks in Seattle coffeeshops were as funny but less . . . something, but we all know I'm gullible, and anyway, I read about four lines before my eyes glazed over. On re-reading, of *course* it was Ben. Sigh.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 3:37 PM
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How about a cement fishing rod?


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 4:01 PM
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Jesus, pwned by Jesus as early as 9. Do people expect me to read the threads?


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 4:02 PM
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You may want to look at 1 again, gonerill.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 4:03 PM
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And 3. And 11.

And I do believe, Comrade W-lfs-n, that while the first coupla fish were small, that last pre-reveal fishie was some kind of record... and now look! Another fish just jumped in the boat.

max
['Outstanding angling, sir.']


Posted by: max | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 4:07 PM
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80: Do people also expect me to read the threads in some comprehensive manner? Especially if I've just bothered to look at the bookshelf to check the reference? (Never mind that the thread itself subsequently provided it anyway.)


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 4:12 PM
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Hanging around Stanford over the last few weeks, I feel the overall impression it conveys is about 1/3 Princeton, 1/3 MIT, and 1/3 Upscale Mall.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 4:14 PM
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1/3 Upscale Mall

Seriously, Palo Alto is pathetic. I had a very good omelet in one of their fine city-wide strip malls, but it was wicked-expensive.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 4:18 PM
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I'm not seeing the 1/3 MIT.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 4:19 PM
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I'm not seeing the 1/3 MIT.

Not so much in the architecture (that's the Mall part), more in the current of tech/eng/bio nerdery.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 4:26 PM
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Gonerill, you owe me an email.


Posted by: belle lettre | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 4:41 PM
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There is no Rue des Grues Nues in Paris, and certainly not on Ile Saint-Louis. What is this, some kind of a joke?


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 5:19 PM
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I think with 87, we can safely retire this entire website.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 5:55 PM
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λ λ


Posted by: pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 5:57 PM
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If this was something said in conversation, it's truly majestic. I've had some pretentious conversations but that's above and beyond.

If this was something delivered as a lecture, it's still impressive but I've heard and seen things to more than rival it. Are lectures admissible?


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 6:06 PM
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I predict DS will read the thread soon.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 6:17 PM
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There's no Bishop of Trawl-net either, and I have no idea where that one came from.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 6:21 PM
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91: Oh. Nevermind.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 6:37 PM
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OT:Remember Alameida posted a recipe for homemade Twix bars years ago? I finally got around to trying it. Not bad, although Newt registered an objection to the coffee flavor. But very tasty generally.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 6:39 PM
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94: I thought Newt was the (occasional) coffee preparer in the family. Get that boy's head on straight.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 6:44 PM
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He'll make it (although sadly that was a shortlived stage; he hasn't been for a while) but doesn't drink it. Sally likes a cup now and then, and Buck and I swill it by the pot,.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 6:49 PM
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i feel now the same kind of gratitude to BW as i felt to the Fathers and sons' guy
thanks, and one more fave to know and look for


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 7:12 PM
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I just had some sweet cardamomy Turkish coffee and I predict I'll be up all night.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 8:34 PM
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Hey, right there with you. Drinking coffee as we speak.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 8:37 PM
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Hey, right there with you. Drinking coffee as we speak.

To keep from crying?


Posted by: Styptic Cred | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 8:46 PM
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Now that I just realized that the thing I've been trying to do for the past day and a half is the wrong thing?

Maybe.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 9:12 PM
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101: Next time watch this before you start working, to remind you what to do. (psst. the answer is THE RIGHT THING! DO THE RIGHT THING!!!!!)


Posted by: Cecily | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 9:34 PM
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Well that's it.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 9:36 PM
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103 was me. Hope the Phillies crush the Rays.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 9:37 PM
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Bye bye Red Sox!


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 9:37 PM
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It's up to the Celtics to maintain the evil empire of Boston sports.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 9:38 PM
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Rays were damn good. That was a good series.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 9:40 PM
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107 -- Yeah, and if the boys couldn't bring any of those guys in during the 7th or 8th, they didn't deserve to keep going.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 9:42 PM
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Yeah they just stopped hitting. For all the business with Manny at mid-season, plus Tek, plus the pitching injuries, though, they did pretty goddamned well. Hopefully they can fill some holes this off-season.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 9:45 PM
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What does building 260 encapsulate?


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 10:23 PM
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Not much, what with all the open windows.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-19-08 10:32 PM
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"Bé-mol" should of course be "B-moll". It's German, not French.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 1:41 AM
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94: Wow, that was years ago? Time really does fly when I'm wasting it on the internet.


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 2:09 AM
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Thanks, AWB!

Pictures in the Flickr pool and at the blog. We're all doing very well, although I'm too tired to be able to be certain about that. Please send good vibes for young J who has an (adorably) asymmetrical little mouth that's making feeding a challenge.

More updates as time permits! Also, hospital cafeteria eggs are making me sad.


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 6:35 AM
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Congratulations, mrh! Baby so nice, you had one twice.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 6:47 AM
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Have I mentioned, mrh, that your wife is totally a babe? And congratulations! Soooo small.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 7:07 AM
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ESH is so much redder than JSH! Did she stay mad longer?

P.S. I sort of love them.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 7:12 AM
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Congratulations, Matt. There's no way to tell anybody before new arrivals arrive just how overpoweringly in love they're about to be. It's really like a punch to the gut. Or in your case, maybe two. Everybody will tell you to sleep whenever they're asleep, which is good but mostly useless advice. You can't help but to sit and stare at them in amazement. The part of me that isn't still ass-out exhausted is jealous of you. These first few months are magical.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 7:22 AM
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Congratulations, mrh!!!


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 7:35 AM
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Congratulations, Mrs. and Mr. Mrh!
so beautiful babies!
do you consider the first born baby as the younger brother as we do? i don't know why, that's just our strange custom or superstition i guess


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Babies! Yay, babies!


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 7:50 AM
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116: Mrs. MRH knows that it's important to look pretty even when the going gets tough.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 7:52 AM
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Awwww, babies. Congrats, new family! Too precious.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 8:06 AM
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121 gets it exactly right.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 8:10 AM
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I thought it was Mr. H and Mrs. H.

Anyway, congratulations.


Posted by: CN | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 8:25 AM
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Congratulations Mr. and Mrs. H.! Speaking to a mother of (now teen-aged) twins last week, I'm told that the unbearable exhaustion should let up at around 14 months. (Speaking to a mother of much newer twins, it still pretty much sucks at 5 months.) Best of luck and best wishes to all.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 8:28 AM
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125 so?
okay, as you can't spoil porridge by butter
double congrats, Mr.and Mrs. H!


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 8:40 AM
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yay and congrats!


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 8:58 AM
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I don't know any better so I'm gonna ask "is this an example of the use of specialized 'jargon' instead of pretentiousness? I'm trying to be charitable here. Because I know I have heard this kind of conversation around here, but with acronyms instead of multi-sylabic words.

For example: The problem with the 5501 is that it is dropping DSR intermittently. We got RI, so raised DTR. Switched, you know. So RI, then DTR, then DSR, got CD, raised RTS, got CTS. We started sending but DSR dropped, but just briefly. They claim DSR should be ignored if CD is constant. RS232C is no real help. We claim we need DSR constant but they want us to tie DSR to CD for switched. The problem with that is what about when we get an ENQ, send ACK, and are waiting for incoming data. We can't wait forever, we need DSR to know when the line is down. They say no one else has a problem, just us. What can we do?


Posted by: Tripp | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 9:06 AM
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To repeat advice I've given to new parents in the past, the most important thing for saving your sanity is triage. The babies don't need anything other than food, warmth, cuddling, and enough cleanliness so they don't get painful rashes. Absolutely anything else can be put off indefinitely.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 9:08 AM
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Beautiful babies, congrats! Rachel looks great -- in that autumn leaves photo she achieves that true "I'm a fashion model who happened to swallow a basketball" film-star pregnancy look. MRH also looks very suave in scrubs.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 9:30 AM
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129: that's just conveying info tersely. What's funny about this is the attitudinizing.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 9:30 AM
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Everybody will tell you to sleep whenever they're asleep, which is good but mostly useless advice. You can't help but to sit and stare at them in amazement.

Really? You must be a much better father than I am. I collapse in exhaustion every time my baby lets me. And also plus, napping with a baby is the best thing ever (and not only in a "there's no food like hunger" sense); baby-on-chest sleep is magical.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 9:33 AM
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True. I fondly remember being sacked out on the couch with a boneless lump-o-baby flopped on my chest -- they have no bones, and their body temperature feels so high, it's like a warm, breathing, cushion or something.

My parents claim that as an infant, I was a useful heating pad for my father's hockey injuries -- he'd come home from the rink and slap a warm baby on sore spots. This was probably more a clever idea than something they actually did, but I don't remember first hand.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 9:43 AM
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Actually they have more bones than adults.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 9:45 AM
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This post reminds me that I really only liked Dennis Miller because I caught all the references. He has gone way downhill.


Posted by: Tassled Loafered Leech | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 9:51 AM
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135: Only when awake. When they sleep, the bones go away.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 9:57 AM
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One of my relationships that didn't work out was with a woman with a condition that made her feel cold (maybe thyroid). The first night I slept under half a blanket in her hot room whil she slept under five blankets. Talk about incompatibility.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 10:16 AM
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Congrats, M&R. Yay, new twins! Don't be alarmed when they lose weight over the next few days (I had a mild freakout about that, before learning that it's normal).


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 10:28 AM
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You must be a much better father than I am.

I'm pretty sure sitting and staring doesn't really equate to good parenting. Perhaps I'm just more accustomed to sleeplessness.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 10:42 AM
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I'm pretty sure sitting and staring doesn't really equate to good parenting.

Jesus Christ--I guess I'm an even worse parent than I thought.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 10:51 AM
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When they sleep, the bones go away.

Much easier to fillet a sleeping baby.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 10:58 AM
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Congratulations!!!


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 11:05 AM
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Squeeee!!! Baby! Another baby!!!! Congratulations!


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 11:57 AM
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Huzzah for more babies!


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 3:26 PM
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Your blog's name is obsolete.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 3:27 PM
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Last time I had to use the laundromat (on Roanoke and Westport, in Kansas City, MO), I was reading until the words of a conversation broke into my thoughts.

It was the laundromat attendant and a customer.

Because they were discussing the theology of St. Thomas Aquinas.


Posted by: dragonet2 | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 4:10 PM
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Last time I had to use the laundromat (on Roanoke and Westport, in Kansas City, MO), I was reading until the words of a conversation broke into my thoughts.

It was the laundromat attendant and a customer.

Because they were discussing the theology of St. Thomas Aquinas.


Posted by: dragonet2 | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 4:10 PM
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Thanks, everybody! Short version: Jackmormon and Apostropher get it exactly right.


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 5:29 PM
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114: My writing partner's newborn had latching problems that were fixed by a visit to the baby chiropractor. Seriously. You could ask about it.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 5:57 PM
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Oh, congratulations! Babies and all are beautiful. Breathe deep.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 10-20-08 6:23 PM
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Or deeply, as you will.


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