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hotpocket [/falsetto]

I'd say falafel from the place across the street because it's open till 3am.

Anything with cheese also suffices.

cheesepocket...


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 8:30 PM
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Frozen White Castle cheeseburgers.

Or an entire ham!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 8:31 PM
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Oh man, I was at a wedding a month or so ago and when it ended, en route back to the hotel at 3 in the morning or so we picked up a SUITCASE of White Castle hamburgers. There were like 50 of them in their own carrying case. So disgusting but hit the spot. Until my cousin puked them all over the bathroom.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 8:33 PM
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That's the one drawback with drunk food. You might associate it forever with puking. On the other hand, I still eat Oreos.


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 8:35 PM
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4: so pretty! I bet it looked just like this.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 8:41 PM
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No, no, no. It's french toast and bacon, especially if you can get your roommate to make them for you.


Posted by: Matt (not the famous one) | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 8:51 PM
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The standard late-night fare here (and we see a good number of out-of-town drunk bands showing up post-show, which they do in the spirit of reciprocity) is nachos. Anything I can dream up on top of chips. Into the oven at, say, 400° for a bit. Served with salsa. Happy drunkards.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 8:52 PM
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Drunk, I just lose all interest in food. I was thrown out of one of the oldest bars in Manhattan when I was sixteen for making fun of a plate of hot antipasto with a friend -- we'd gotten drunk somewhere else, and figured we should eat something, and when the antipasto got there the thought of eating it was was the most ridiculous thing anyone could possibly imagine.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 8:56 PM
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I was thrown out of one of the oldest bars in Manhattan when I was sixteen

I love the age relationships in this phrase.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 8:58 PM
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Drunk, I just lose all interest in food.

Yup. But I also become LET ME MAKE SOME [easily prepared] FOOD FOR YOU DRUNK PEOPLE! host. Hence, nachos. Or Home Run Inn cheese pizzas, which are a gift I give to only the most highly regarded drunk guests.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 9:01 PM
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I made the best cobbler of my life on an occasion when I was truly blind drunk.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 9:02 PM
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The best drunk food is beer. Duh.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 9:06 PM
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Gaffigan was pretty amusing, but the line that made me laugh out loud was:

waiter: "it's still a little frozen, actually... but it can also be served boiling lava hot."

customer: "will that burn the inside of my mouth?"

waiter: "oh it'll destroy your mouth."

customer: "i'll have the hot pocket."


Posted by: F | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 9:06 PM
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one o' them roasted chickens in the supermarket. everyone grabs a fork and gathers 'round. not exactly as disgusting as it sounds, i promise you.


Posted by: johnston | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 9:19 PM
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The A-Bomb at Tubby Dog. A repast that too few members of the human race will ever enjoy.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 9:24 PM
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Tina's burritos microwaved and spritzed with Cholula.


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 9:26 PM
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I was thrown out of one of the oldest bars in Manhattan when I was sixteen for making fun of a plate of hot antipasto with a friend....

Good opening sentence. This month is NaNoWriMo, you know.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 9:28 PM
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I'm waiting for FemtoWriMo.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 9:32 PM
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Even in Chicago I knew that the answer is "burritos".


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 9:39 PM
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This may be more than an academic question for me, as the beer I'm drinking turns out to be 12% alcohol.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 10:02 PM
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20: Better hop a plane to Calgary and get to Tubby Dog immediately, then.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 10:06 PM
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You know what's a spectacular drunk food, actually? Shawarma.

Pwned, regionally, by Cala.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 10:19 PM
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I'm positive there's an old thread discussing this.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 10:20 PM
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I'm going to have to go with either taco al pastor, or tamales from the lady who used to wander around SF misson bars with a container of homemade tamales. or else krystals (the south's version of white castle).


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 10:21 PM
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What are you talking about, used to?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 10:23 PM
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White Castle is specifically northern? Further confirmation that I didn't grow up in the south.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 10:25 PM
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Transitioning for the AM commenting crew, cream cheese on "French" or "Italian" bread is heavenly in the morning, provided there's some good strong coffee about.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 10:26 PM
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27: save yer dyin'; it's early out west!

26: white castle is very regional, but it's a weird region; something like mid-atlantic plus eastern midwest.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 10:27 PM
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Your mom is heavenly in the morning, Stanley.

An absolute wonder.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 10:32 PM
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29: I was conceived in the morning hours, ben.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 10:37 PM
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30: it's pretty sad that you think he wouldn't remember.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 10:38 PM
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The best late night drunk food is [meat of your choice], egg, and cheese on a giant biscuit. From Time Out in Chapel Hill, specifically.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 10:52 PM
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A jalapeno omelet is the perfect AM post-drunk food.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 10:52 PM
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The hell of getting older is that I feel pretty unaffected while drinking, then progressively shittier as a it wears off, often continuing into the next day.


Posted by: Not Prince Hamlet | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 11:08 PM
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Gourmands know that the croissant pockets are preferred.

Entenmann's crumb-top doughnuts (especially the Devil's Food ones) are an excellent sober food. It's like saying that lobster is an excellent drunk food.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 11:17 PM
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White Castle's territory is basically Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Wisconsin, Missouri, and New York City.


Posted by: Cryptec Nid | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 11:18 PM
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32: Yeah, my brother took me there a lot in the late night when I was visiting UNC. Place is an institution, if a greasy little institution.


Posted by: Neil the Ethical Werewolf | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 11:19 PM
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Lean Pockets are yummy, like eating really cheap, salted throw pillows.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 11:21 PM
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36: don't forget New Jersey!

They skip Pennsylvania, somehow? Apparently so, although they do hit Kentucky and Tennessee.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 11:23 PM
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There's one in Philly.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 11:25 PM
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Hash browns. Better yet, hash browns done seven ways, Waffle House style.


Posted by: Klug | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 11:26 PM
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40: whitecastle.com is lying? I don't believe it.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 11:28 PM
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There's one next to the Juniata Erie-Torresdale El station.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 11:33 PM
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43: apparently not anymore.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 11:36 PM
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Oh, Internet, is there nothing you can't do? Further in that thread, someone even posts a picture of it. I'm not surprised that it's gone, since the neighborhood has about a billion pizza places, all of which sell cheesesteaks and hoagies.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 11:49 PM
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Update: Trader Joe's Coconut Curry Chicken Stix are pretty boss when buzzed on a homeworkless monday.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-17-08 11:54 PM
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No, the de rigeur drunk food is shoarma from a dodgy kebab place still open at 3 am in the heart of Amsterdam, with lots of garlic sauce and red onion sauce and that spicy sauce that you only pile on when you're really really drunk, for that added garlic and beer fart smell the next morning.

Then, while you're nursing your hangover, you need to do a full English fry-up.

Then you wonder how on earth you could've gained two kilos just from having "a few beers".


Posted by: Martin Wisse | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 12:03 AM
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I agree with those who advocate for protein when drunk.

Lots of protein, several quarts of water and 1000 mgs. of vitamin C and you are all set.


Posted by: ozma | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 12:29 AM
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So, um, anybody here like gladiator movies?

Teo? Anybody?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 1:11 AM
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Drunk food - crisps or pizza or kebab - anything savoury and chewy.

Hangover food - a fry-up if you can face it. I had a friend who had an American girlfriend whose hangover cure was "a good meal, a good shit and a good shag", whereas mine at the time was a pot of tea, a can of Coke and a joint.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 1:50 AM
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"a good meal, a good shit and a good shag"

Just, all at once, or... oh, no, no, probably not.

Sorry.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 2:04 AM
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Ha! Could well have been - she scared me. Far too energetic. Mine of course should be administered simultaneously.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 3:18 AM
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You jerks are making me hungry. This is just a list of delicious food, not drunk food.


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 3:26 AM
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You jerks are making me want to get drunk.


Posted by: Nworb Werdna | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 3:36 AM
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No love for fried chicken?


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 4:52 AM
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I'm pretty sure we've covered chicken-loving on this site before, although not fried.


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 5:20 AM
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No love for fried chicken?

Fried chicken is one of the meat options in 32. Indeed, it's the one for which they are famous.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 5:56 AM
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Not to get too Jesuitical on y'all, but I think there is an important distinction to be made between drunk-and-stoned food and drunk food tout court.

For drunk-and-stoned food I'll endorse any member of the set characterized by bread wrapped around meat and strongly flavored condiments: Shawarma, Doner Kebab, burritos, bratwurst, Peking duck, and the steak & cheese sub from Pinnochios in Harvard Square all qualify. Hot pockets would appear to qualify on purely technical grounds, but in reality they do not, because, well, yuck.

Also acceptable: breakfast cereal (sweetened or unsweetened), buffalo wings, oreos and milk, bacon sandwiches, cheese grits, cobb salad, Lance snacks, Pringles, Toblerone bars, IHOP's passport supreme breakfast platter with extra bacon, microwave raclette, s'mores, Annie's organic mac 'n' cheese, honey glazed peanuts, spaghetti bolognese, Krispy Kreme glazed donuts, and granola spiked with Smarties. Preferably all in succession.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 6:02 AM
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The only socially correct food to eat when wandering home drunk and tired at the end of a good evening is something deep fried.

In the land of my birth, this may include pizza. (Deep fried Mars bars, however, are a practical joke. Sorry.)

Good food to eat when drunk is anything simple with lots of protein and carbs. Baked beans on toast is a winner.


Posted by: Jesurgislac | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 6:29 AM
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58.3 sounds about right. And makes me want to have a smoke, just so I can eat it all.

I once watched my brother drink a can of cold soup, with a roomful of other stoned people whining that he wasn't sharing it.

At the moment I am celebrating the pre-advent period by eating as many mini stollen as possible each day. I may need new clothes for Christmas.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 6:29 AM
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The only socially correct food to eat when wandering home drunk and tired at the end of a good evening is something deep fried.

Wot no kebabs?


Posted by: OneFatEnglishman | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 6:56 AM
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Spam, egg, and blue cheese on bread. Mmmmmmm


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 7:04 AM
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For drunk-and-stoned food

Crumble Oreos or Chips Ahoy cookies into milk, and eat it with a spoon.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 7:12 AM
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Hash browns. Better yet, hash browns done seven ways, Waffle House style.

Exactly. With cheese grits. I continue to remember the night several of my classmates and I went out after our Existentialism final exam and how after drinking for eight hours we wound up at a Waffle House-style diner. Two of my classmates ordered big, greasy omelets, while another ordered pecan waffles. When the orders arrived, the omelets were so disgustingly greasy that the omelet guys--both of whom went on to successful careers in medicine--had barely enough time to dig in before waffle girl vomited all over the table. But with the quickness that would come to characterize their surgical decisions, both omelet guys picked up their plates, shielded them from the spray, and continued to fork it in even as the waitress took waffle girl away to the restroom.


Posted by: Populuxe | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 7:13 AM
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Crumble Oreos or Chips Ahoy cookies into milk, and eat it with a spoon.

Faute de mieux, you can substitute cinnamon graham crackers for the cookies. The optimal textural combination of crunchy and smooshy persists only for a few milliseconds after the graham crackers hit the milk, so it must be consumed ravenously.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 7:17 AM
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Breakfast burritos--3 scrambled eggs with lots of butter, salt, and garlic powder, lots of cheddar cheese, deli ham, and chunky salsa. Dump into a large warmed flour burrito with an assloaf of truly hot hot sauce. Roll up and enjoy. Serve with a side of bacon if you can manage to cook two things at once.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 7:46 AM
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Or a Ben's half-smoke chili dog.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 7:46 AM
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tamales from the lady who used to wander around SF misson bars with a container of homemade tamales

She's still around. She stops by my company's offices every Friday, too.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 7:47 AM
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Cheese and gravy fries are a classic NJ diner drunk food.


Posted by: Willy Voet | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 7:54 AM
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I was tickled to hear the President-Elect mention Harold's Chicken Shack the other night in his 60 Minutes interview. I have good drunk food memories of nights featuring a half dark with hot sauce washed down with cans of Schlitz.


Posted by: JL | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 7:55 AM
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Cheese and gravy fries are a classic NJ diner drunk food.

I had no idea the poutine belt stretched that far south.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 8:04 AM
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Hot Cuban bread is good when you're drunk. It's tasty and easy on the stomach, plus if you nod off, it smells good and it's warm and soft to rest your face upon so you'll have pleasant dreams.


Posted by: W. Kiernan | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 8:13 AM
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Oh man, I have a soft-spot for chili cheese fries, especially when they're waffle-style fries.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 8:14 AM
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I'm glad to hear about the persistence of the tamale lady. but now I'm thinking about cheese grits. mmmm. it's hard to find grits in narnia.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 8:31 AM
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Chicken fried steak at the all night diner for drunk. Something spongey like pancakes or French toast for a hangover to sop up all the acid (assuming that the two ibuprofen and two antacids were more than a brief breakfast).

An old friend used to rate her hangovers by how many Cokes were required. A 3-Coke one was pretty bad.


Posted by: Mo MacArbie | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 8:34 AM
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In the 'burgh—Primanti's, Vincent's Pizza*, the 'O or Ritter's.

Back in Northeast Ohio in the day, a gyro from the Dubyl Tyme.

In the kitchen, hard salami wrapped around chesse sticks.

*Some people (i.e my wife), are absolutely revolted by the Vinnie Pie. If you're a picky eater, pre-drinking highly recommended.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 8:35 AM
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For mild hangovers I use pickled herring. For serious hangovers, just water.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 8:36 AM
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Coke really is amazing for a hangover. I'm not a soda drinker at all, generally -- I'll have a Coke maybe three/four times a year -- but when you wake up feeling bad enough that water is nauseating, Coke is perfect.

Annoyingly, I'm such a non-soda drinker that I often fail to remember this while actually in the throes of a hangover; I need to be lucky enough to have something remind me that soda exists while I'm still in need of it.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 8:40 AM
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My hangover food is a banana. I hate being in the "Gonna puke? Yes or no?" state. Eating a banana forces the outcome (which in turn seems to lessen the headache) and it is the best food evah on the way back up.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 8:56 AM
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Ice cold (green) Gatorade was/is my favorite drink for a hangover.


Posted by: Populuxe | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 8:58 AM
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Coke really is amazing for a hangover. I'm not a soda drinker at all, generally -- I'll have a Coke maybe three/four times a year -- but when you wake up feeling bad enough that water is nauseating, Coke is perfect.

This is precisely the morning after my 21st birthday party. My dear roommate brought me some water. After a few sips, my head beginning to spin, I looked up at her helplessly, "This is too strong. Do we have any Pepsi?"


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 9:08 AM
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I used to be a Hot Pockets partisan, but they don't seem very effective. Lately I've discovered that a $1 double cheeseburger from McDonald's seems to work. Now that I'm thinking of it, I may want to hit a 24-hour diner the next time I seem to be in bad shape.

A friend of mine who is a nurse recommends two pieces of bread with peanut butter, two big glasses of water, and an ibuprofen before bed, then repeating the cycle when you get up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom. It seems to be the most effective method, though I too often lack the willpower to follow it.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 9:12 AM
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It should be noted that the only circumstance in which one should eat at Time Out is when drunk. For me, the preferred destination was always Waffle House, preferably one in the middle of nowhere (say, the one in Hillsborough or the one on NC 54 before that area became really dense with people) or, better but accordingly rarer, the Char-Grill.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 9:17 AM
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I was tickled to hear the President-Elect mention Harold's Chicken Shack

Really? Sweet.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 9:17 AM
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The Democratic Party via Cillizza via Hamsher, comment by Hamsher:

Asked what it would mean if Lieberman kept his chairmanship, one Senate Democratic aide said bluntly: "The left has been foiled again. They can rant and rage but they still do not put the fear into folks to actually change their votes. Their influence would be in question."
I hope this puts to rest the notion that this is all some master stroke of kumbayah, of keeping your friends close and your enemies closer. This is about telling you that you mean nothing. That democracy is a nice word, but it should never threaten the entitlement of the most exclusive club in the world. No matter what Joe Lieberman does, the people who are protecting him hate you much more than they hate him.

Word.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 9:27 AM
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The best hangover remedy is of course Joe Lieberman's heart, freshly ripped out of his chest.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 9:29 AM
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A friend of mine who is a nurse recommends two pieces of bread with peanut butter, two big glasses of water, and an ibuprofen before bed

Yeah, white-bread, crunchy pbj with diet coke is my favorite. I find cheese very dangerous, in general.


Posted by: asl | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 9:40 AM
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I just received an inquiry from a biologist who's studying Amazonian catfish milk. I'm pne of the internet experts on fish milk, you know.

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Back to normal.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 9:41 AM
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Drunk food: quesadilla, and not the sad kind. Grab tortillas from fridge, think to yourself, I'll just have one, so I don't feel really fat in the morning; throw one tortilla in frying pan with a little oil, add cheese and the hottest sauce you have in the house (this, if you're lucky), fold over. Eat while standing over the sink, so the goo doesn't ooze out over you and the floor. Repeat. Repeat again if necessary.

Hangover food: pint of grapefruit juice, couple cups of strong coffee, fat cheesy omelette and garlicky, greasy sausage. When you feel good enough to leave the house, go out for pho.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 9:45 AM
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Can we get rid of Lieberman in 2008? Would Lamont run again with a better campaign organization. The Democratic establishment in Connecticut, i.e. county chairs and the like, are not fond of him.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 9:48 AM
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Can we get rid of Lieberman in 2008?

His term runs until 2012 and Connecticut doesn't have a recall option, IIRC.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 9:52 AM
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86: Word. I am finding myself experiencing emotions similar to the FISA cave-in.

Reason #73 that Joe must go:

"If we just pick up like Ned Lamont wants us to do, get out by a date certain, it will be taken as a tremendous victory by the same people who wanted to blow up these planes in this plot hatched in England. It will strengthen them and they will strike again."

Reason #74:

"How the heck can we be in a battle in which we are fighting as Democrats and Republicans against each other, when these terrorists certainly don't distinguish based on our party affiliation?" Mr. Lieberman said. "They want to kill any and all of us."

.. not up for reelection until 2012.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 9:52 AM
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Reason #75:

The senator has drawn more praise from Republicans including Mr. Cheney and Karl Rove, President Bush's senior adviser, who said yesterday that he called Mr. Lieberman on Tuesday to wish him well in the primary. The two men are friends, Mr. Rove said.

Actually the whole article, from just days after the primary is like a Rosetta Stone of Liberman Wankitude.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 9:56 AM
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Ice cold (green) Gatorade was/is my favorite drink for a hangover.

Me too. For when water is too harsh. Although I usually want yellow.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 10:03 AM
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Really? Sweet.

It totally was. He didn't talk about eating there, but that didn't matter. He couldn't hide the affection in his voice, not that he tried.


Posted by: JL | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 10:06 AM
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Hangover drink: diluted "Vitamin Water". Like Gatorade but somehow less appalling.
Hangover food, also sort of a drink: bowl of pho the size of your head.


Posted by: Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 10:10 AM
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I am honestly appalled that a "Democratic aide" went on record as explaining that Democratic aides support Joe Lieberman because they have contempt and scorn for "the left".


Posted by: Cryptec Nid | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 10:19 AM
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diluted "Vitamin Water". Like Gatorade but somehow less appalling.

Oh, so true, especially if ice cold.

I'm typically like LB when drunk, in that I feel I should be eating something so I'll find a place and order a dish, but then the actual thought of eating more food given my already super-full stomach is completely ridiculous. However, this newish place called Rockstar Dogs on the west side of town does an amazing bacon-wrapped grilled hot dog with roasted jalapenos and mustard, along with fries that are just the right crispiness on the outside. Mmmmm...


Posted by: Po-Mo Polymath | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 10:19 AM
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97: It's funny depressing because it's true.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 10:22 AM
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Curry. [Either in proper 'Indian' form, or as a sauce drizzled over deep fried haggis]

Can't believe any alternative is under discussion.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 10:27 AM
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Seriously, until they feel a lot more fear we will get nothing from them. Lieberman's primary defeat was a warning, but he was able to beat the game. Until a few careers are ended we'll remain dogshit.

Yeah, yeah, Obama is better than Bush. Lieberman is better than Cornyn. Etc.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 10:28 AM
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It's so hard to whip up a good haggis when you've just run out of sheep bellies and there are no sheep around.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 10:29 AM
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From TPM, details on the Lieberman deal. Unfuckingbelievable.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 10:31 AM
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Accountability Now PAC


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 10:38 AM
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Tater tots with cheddar cheese, ranch dressing to dip. Pretty much anything with ranch dressing is a drunk food choice.


Posted by: KJ | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 10:44 AM
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I blame this thread for my sudden onset onion ring craving.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 10:47 AM
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Re: the Lieberman deal, I hate everyone.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 10:48 AM
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Also of note is a story once told to me by a barely-21-year old who thought he could get a jump on the hangover by mixing vodka and Pedialyte. He says, trust me, it didn't work. But hey, at least he tried.


Posted by: KJ | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 10:51 AM
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Pretty much anything with ranch dressing is a drunk food choice.

Now all of a sudden I want cheese fries from Linda's.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 11:28 AM
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Orange Gatorade is simply the best drink ever for plain old rehydration. Regular coke is the most refreshing in the short term, but once the sugar buzz and caffeine high wear off you're worse than when you started. Gatorade at slightly below room temperature so you can chug without brainfreeze is the best for rehydration. Hangover plus brainfreeze it teh suxxorz.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 11:37 AM
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You know you're genuinely underhydrated when Gatorade doesn't taste revolting.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 11:40 AM
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is there a difference tastewise between doner kebab and shwarma kebab? i'm kind of guessing the bread's different


Posted by: tierce de lollardie | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 11:43 AM
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I've started to use Gatorade as a general remedy for everything -- cold, flu, allergy attacks, hepetitis, gangrene, etc.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 11:58 AM
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Curry. [Either in proper 'Indian' form, or as a sauce drizzled over deep fried haggis]

Can't believe any alternative is under discussion.

Oh, you funny foreigners.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 12:17 PM
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for genuinely underhydrated my people used the remedy, overboiled water "shirgeesen us",
you boil water, let it evaporate until its half volume
i think that way they concentrated the salts and minerals in the water,
and tea with salt


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 12:25 PM
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You know you're genuinely underhydrated when Gatorade doesn't taste revolting.

I wouldn't say "revolting," but I've occasionally taken a swig, made a face, and realized that I actually wasn't thirsty.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 12:30 PM
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Curry is "a sauce" in the UK? One discreet sauce, like ketchup? Here it is more like a nebulous array of substances. And not available as fast food.


Posted by: Cryptec Nid | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 12:32 PM
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Heretics! Do none of you people in NC follow the teachings of the great Cook Out? They have the best onion rangs. I spell it the way it is pronounced.

Although looking at Wikipedia they apparently have religious sayings plastered all over the bags that I have never noticed.


Posted by: winna | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 12:38 PM
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korma is discreet, vindaloo less so

curry as a sauce, like ketchup: the HP stands for "houses of parliament" in case you doubted its cultural heft


Posted by: tierce de lollardie | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 12:40 PM
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Lieberman. Feh. What is wrong with people? Do they have to start off the session with a large print announcement that there is no such thing as party discipline?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 12:41 PM
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Granted Gatorade tastes kinda like snot, although not really, but still salty.

I have found that G2 and some of the other, lighter, half calorie Gatorade-like drinks are great for all around drinking. G2 is made by Gatorade I think.

Personally I haven't had a hangover in about fifteen years or so. I got a massive hangover the day after my last night in England. I shoulda known "Copperhead" cider and "Elephant" beer would have a big kick. After that night I said "I'm never doing this again" and I haven't. It is not worth it.


Posted by: Tripp | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 12:52 PM
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Drunk food: Whatever I can get my hands on really, burger+chips or pizza or cheese&ham toastie etc.
Hangover food: Coke, absolutely. Usually I drink the diet stuff but for a hangover it has to be the leaded variety. With salt and vinegar crisps. And, as recovery begins, a tuna sandwich.
Lucozade is another good drink (which ye'll never have heard of).
Big fry up also excellent breakfast, esp. for the hangover that's more about exhaustion than pain. Or where you have to do it all over again that night.


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What more does one need than a few blue cheese stuffed olives?


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 1:22 PM
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I have had inexplicable cravings for Coke while hung over, but never put it together. I really do hate that feeling that you're going to throw up from drinking water -- presumably the bubbles help it go down smooth?

I only ever drink orange juice when hung over. Not sure why.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 1:22 PM
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Although looking at Wikipedia they apparently have religious sayings plastered all over the bags that I have never noticed.

That's because you're drunk.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 1:31 PM
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Coke syrup is a traditional antiemetic, actually.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 1:38 PM
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Although looking at Wikipedia they apparently have religious sayings plastered all over the bags that I have never noticed.

Same deal with In'n'Out, though they're perhaps more discreet. It's true: religious people make good fast food.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 1:38 PM
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Bubbles and sugar and acid. Club soda is better than water, but not as good as soda -- something about the sugaryness helps. I don't drink diet soda, so I don't know how that would work.

But I bet some club soda in your orange juice would make it just as good as a Coke.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 1:42 PM
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91 -- It doesn't matter what state law says, you can't recall a senator. The Senate can expel a member, they can die or resign, but that's it.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 1:42 PM
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The Senate can expel a member, they can die or resign, but that's it.

Any of those would be fine.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 1:44 PM
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Of course, you can hound a senator into resigning.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 1:44 PM
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But I bet some club soda in your orange juice would make it just as good as a Coke.

Ooooh, no thank you. Orange juice and pukey are not a combination I want to experiment with.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 1:45 PM
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Any of those would be fine.

Yeah, seriously. We're not doctrinaire on the subject.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 1:45 PM
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I don't drink diet soda, so I don't know how that would work.

I drink it like it's going out of style and the morning after election day found that it was a fantastic help in terms of overcoming a hangover.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 1:46 PM
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Lieberman and pukey, however, are a natural combination, the former inevitably leading to the latter. Ugh.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 1:48 PM
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It's true: religious people make good fast food.

And here I thought Chik-Fil-A wa just an aberration.


Posted by: KR | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 1:49 PM
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Over lunch with the SO he brought up another wonderful hangover remedy: Bojangle's chicken filet biscuit and an EXTRA LARGE SWEET TEA. I can attest to these miracle powers.

He said he didn't even consider doner kebab in his hangover or drunk foods because he can't get it here (TN), but in Bogner Regis that was THE drunk food of choice.


Posted by: KJ | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 1:50 PM
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136 -- A cult in Montana had a restaurant that made the best pies ever. And the wait staff was always so blissfully serene.

130, 133 -- Of course. I only mentioned it because you can find flat earthers of one persuasion or the other arguing the contrary. Luther Martin raised this in Maryland's ratification debates, but he's now famous, if at all, for other things.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 2:02 PM
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138: There was a Christian cult in Oregon that made good pie (Wheel of Fortune, until their spiritual leader decided that that that was a pagan name).

Also a pizza-making Sufi cult which ended up being involved in fraud, drugs, and murder.


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I don't want to generalize too wildly from a single data point observed over the last few hours, so I will limit my assertion to certain limiting conditions: if you get drunk in the first class lounge of Air France at Paris CDG on four glasses of Champagne, two glasses of Nuits St. George, one of Margaux, and three of Sauternes, then an excellent choice of drunk food is slices of jambon de Bayonne, some pain de Poilane with semi-salted Breton butter, a box of gaufrettes au sel de guerande, some canapes with foies gras, a little shot glass of pureed peas with a parmesan mousse (make that two), a few slices of air-dried beef, some skewers of curried chicken with caramelized pineapple and coriander, some ripe Camembert, and a few chocolate truffles.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 2:06 PM
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I see there is a new bio out of Luther Martin. This from Amazon: The Anti-Federalist Luther Martin of Maryland is known to us--if he is known at all--as the wild man of the Constitutional Convention: a verbose, frequently drunken radical who annoyed the hell out of James Madison, George Washington, Gouverneur Morris, and the other giants responsible for the creation of the Constitution in Philadelphia that summer of 1787.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 2:08 PM
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151: Show off.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 2:09 PM
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pizza-making Sufi cult which ended up being involved in fraud, drugs, and murder.

Are they still hiring?


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 2:11 PM
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Jesus, Knecht, how long was that layover?


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 2:14 PM
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144: Foolishmortal FTW!

145: about 25 minutes. Why do you ask?


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 2:16 PM
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Coke syrup is a traditional antiemetic, actually.

Yeah, when I was ill my mom would give me syrup of Coca Cola over ice. One of the few things that stayed down and it quieted the nausea too. Used to be you could buy the syrup at pharmacies. I wonder if it drug stores still carry it (along with oil of cloves for tooth ache).


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 2:22 PM
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After about 30 years, one of their leaders just got sentenced for murder. I believe they're out of business. (Where is Jesus?)

[Jesus is in our hearts!]


Luther Martin may replace John Randolph of Roanoke as my favorite founding father. Randolph has some definite negative aspects.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 2:24 PM
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By the mid-1820s he was subsisting on a special tax imposed on Maryland lawyers solely for his personal support. Eventually, he was taken in by Aaron Burr, whom he had defended at the disgraced ex-vice president's 1807 trial for treason. By this time, an irrational detestation of Thomas Jefferson, his one-time decentralist ally, led Martin to embrace the Federalist Party, in apparent repudiation of everything he had argued for so strenuously. Paralysis, which had struck in 1819, forced him to retire as Maryland's attorney general in 1822. On July 8, 1826, at the age of 78, Luther Martin died in Aaron Burr's home in New York City and was buried in an unmarked grave in St. John's churchyard. His death came four days after the deaths on July 4 of Jefferson and John Adams.

Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 2:28 PM
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Soba noodles, found in road side stands when wondering home hammered from Roppongi district in Tokyo....early-mid 1980's.

Tasty, filling, never made you puke.

And way cheap.


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148: The Rajnesshees? Did they make pizza? Come to think of it, there was that pizzeria downtown (around 11th and Jefferson, IIRC) that I believe was Rajneeshee-affiliated. Is that the one you're thinking of?

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Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 2:33 PM
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Soba noodles, found in road side stands when wondering home hammered from Roppongi district in Tokyo....early-mid 1980's.

You must not be our regular Michael.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 2:35 PM
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So, Jesus, you do make marc, right?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 2:37 PM
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That would be against the law, ben.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 2:41 PM
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wait, is luther martin mentioned in "burr" -- he sounds like he must be but i don't remember him at all


Posted by: tierce de lollardie | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 2:42 PM
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Martin is my favorite luthier.


Posted by: Cryptec Nid | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 2:50 PM
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That would be against the law, ben.

A marc farm for marc hookers! "I keep telling you, we just grow sorghum here."


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 2:50 PM
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Roppongi
once i got lost in Roppongi or maybe it was somewhere around Shinagawa station, coz i've been to Tokyo only 6-7 time, so everytime was kinda memorable but i forget, so around 3 AM got off the train and i thought the hotel is right near the corner from the station, yet couldn't find it, i was walking down the street, very desolate, between a JR line and a road and empty buildings, remember tall JR line pillars, luckily a taxi came and i told my hotel and it was right nearby, just 1-2 min by taxi, but i couldn't see it coz was walking wrong direction away from the hotel, the only time i was near to become afraid to get lost


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 2:58 PM
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Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 3:00 PM
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The father of a friend of mine used to play in a band at a Country-Western bar in Roppongi. Most memorable experience: having a drunk salaryman exclaim to me, "I'm an Okie from Muskogee!" Lost in Translation is really a pale imitation of reality.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 3:06 PM
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But if one eats whilst drunk, there isn't more room for the additional alcohol required to stay drunk and thereby avoid a hangover entirely...

Personally, I find the lime in my vodka tonic & lime to be sufficient nourishment. Tho' I will admit that strawberries go nicely with a good champagne. I went to a wedding earlier this year where the excellent champagne was accompanied by miniature cheezburgers. Yer doing it wrong!

[Note: Never go grocery shopping if you are high. You might wake up the next morning with $40 worth of mangoes in your refrigerator.


Posted by: DominEditrix | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 3:15 PM
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Fleur and I once attended a wedding in the UK where, shortly after midnight, a chip van pulled up to the tent where the dancing was taking place with hot fish and chips (wrapped in newpaper, natch) for all the guests. Best drunken/stoned/sweaty meal I've ever had.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 3:20 PM
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Probably before your time, young Jesus. The Rajneeshees did have pizza and felonies, but no successful murder. But the Starry Night guy Howitz had some kind of connection to the Ring of Hearts (?) Sufi Center during the 70s and maybe the 80s, until he and someone else ran off with the money.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 3:21 PM
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additional alcohol required to stay drunk and thereby avoid a hangover entirely...

Arrant pseudoscience.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 3:24 PM
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read,

A similar thing happened to me in London. Took a charter bus in for shopping on a Saturday, they dropped us off two places - Harrod's and the place we would get picked up next to some huge park - Hyde park? Is that in London? We got off at Harrod's.

Spent the day traveling around London using the underground and it was a blast! Closed down Harrod's with some purchases and then caught a rush for the underground so we got to the underground station near the bus pickup place with minutes to spare. Ended up crossing under the BIG street in a walkway that was way spooky after dark - my Chicago spidey senses were tingling but nothing happened. Came up near the corner on the other side and started walking towards the pickup spot. Little did we know it was behind us and the walkway did NOT come up right at the corner, which I assumed but down a ways, and we were walking away from the bus.

We walked, we ran, we desperately crossed a 4 lanes over to some other buses, not ours, and found a bus with a driver who was not ours but thought he knew where our bus might be. He drove us, free, around the huge block and stopped right by our bus!

Our bus had waited, thank God, because I was thinking of how we'd have to catch a cab to the train station, ride the train home (about an hour and a half), and somehow contact our babysitter.

Instead we just had to walk meekly to the very back of our bus, taking the glares from all the other GlobalCorp employees who had to wait just because some stupid ugly Americans couldn't find their way around bloody London.


Posted by: Tripp | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 3:43 PM
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I went to a wedding earlier this year where the excellent champagne was accompanied by miniature cheezburgers. Yer doing it wrong!

Oh, I don't know about that. Good champagne goes well with nearly everything!


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 4:37 PM
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I find that the really good stuff is best paired with plain brown rice.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 4:46 PM
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166: Ha! Excellent champagne deserves at least little bites of filet mignon with a nice blue cheese sauce on still-warm baguette. Which is what I would have expected at a four-star hotel. The catering was indifferent, to say the least.


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at least little bites of filet mignon with a nice blue cheese sauce on still-warm baguette.

So, basically, a cheeseburger.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 4:55 PM
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167: Philistine.

With the finest champagnes, only teff.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 5:02 PM
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That's so nouveau riche, LB.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 5:04 PM
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nightcap of grand mariner

Neat, or on rime?


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 5:20 PM
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DS is right about Tubby Dog. I shall get drunk and get on a train.


Posted by: Penny | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 5:28 PM
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As it turned out, tonight's dinner, namely this with slices of queso fresco, some sauteed greens, and a few shakes of tabasco, would make outrageously good drunk food.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 6:02 PM
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Oh man. This entry has got something stuck in my head that I haven't recited since probably sixth grade, and I can't remember subject in the first line.

It's kind of a chant:
Fried X, fried X, fried X.
Cheese and bologna.
And after the macaroni, we'll have hot dogs!
Chicken and onions, and then we'll have some more
Of fried X, fried X, fried X.

Is it fried ham? Fried eggs? I think it's fried ham, but that still doesn't seem quite right. Anyone?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 6:05 PM
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http://www.afn.org/~afn26527/allsongs.html


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 6:09 PM
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Here too.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 6:10 PM
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That looks really good, foxytail.


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It is really good! It is handy to make up a jar of achiote oil first to keep in the fridge, and then just use a scoop of that to fry up the onions.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 6:15 PM
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Let's swap homemaking tips.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 6:18 PM
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174: would or did?


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This has nothing to do with drunk food.

But Ayn Rand dating site!

Such unfogged fodder it's not funny:

http://nymag.com/news/features/artifact/51814/


Posted by: ozma | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 6:30 PM
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Also OT: Begich won, Stevens lost.


Posted by: DominEditrix | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 6:55 PM
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From 182:

I do not "hook-up" with girls. I only kiss those who deserve

and

I never "hook-up" randomly, I never kiss a girl that doesn't deserve mine.

Are kiss deserts an established tenet of Randian philosophy, or are Rob from Stanford and Zak from Long Island the same person?


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 6:55 PM
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Tonight's dinner: Beef curry, spiced potatoes, naan, mango chutney. And I just made plum jam.


Posted by: DominEditrix | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 6:57 PM
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169: Yes, Benjamin, but a good cheeseburger. I see no reason why a 4* hotel should serve McDonald's level cuisine. And the wedding cake was eh, supermarket tasteless.


Posted by: DominEditrix | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 7:00 PM
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the Prophet posse gets rolling, kiss yr booze --n yr benjis!----goodbye.....


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Let's swap homemaking tips.

Practically my favorite activity! I really do like having a jar of achiote oil in the fridge. It lets you make lots of things golden and Latin-American-tasting with ease. Do not spill it.


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The version I know, heebie, says "ham", but "onions" instead of "hot dogs", "pickles" instead of "chicken", "pretzels" instead of "onions."

Same song, second verse, doggy style*, much, much worse.

*not kidding. Like Scooby.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 7:08 PM
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Tell you what, Cooks' creamless tomato soup is badass comfort food (with grilled cheese, of course). Texture and richness of a cream soup, flavor intensity more like gazpacho. Wow.

That said, I'm a bit jealous of rfts - I've been wanting to cook hominy for awhile now, but something about the canned/dried dichotomy weirds me out - I don't cook with dried corn, and canned corn is nasty. But that recipe looks simple and achievable.


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148 -- I'll send you the LM bio when I finish it.


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179: It is really good! It is handy to make up a jar of achiote oil first to keep in the fridge, and then just use a scoop of that to fry up the onions.

I don't have enough room in my fridge for all the things I want to keep in there! Dammit.

But you know what I wish for: some nutritional info for these receipts receipts recipes I see everywhere. I understand, when you're just cooking at home, well, nutritional information, qua? Still, I wonder. (Note to self: check nutritional info on can of hominy in store.)


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 7:20 PM
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What's with Burke and Wells? No one's heard from them for more than four years. Shouldn't someone be checking in on them?


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 7:29 PM
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They're in New York.

http://burkeandwells.typepad.com/


Posted by: Biohazard | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 7:47 PM
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172 wins the stately pleasure thread.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 7:54 PM
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What's with Burke and Wells? No one's heard from them for eighteen months. Shouldn't someone be checking in on them?


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 11-18-08 7:56 PM
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192: If you want to work things out for yourself, try the USDA nutrient database.


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the other day i bought some juice which said 100% some juice on a quick glance, read it again after coming home it was 10%, i was curious what's the remaining, maybe water and food dye, and drank it nevertheless, coz i thought, well, if it's getting sold in the stores, at least there shouldn't be some kind of acute harm


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91: Yeah, I meant to write 2012.


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Read meets Sunny D.


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173: Sweet. (And I didn't realize anyone else from my beloved vache ville actually read this blog.)


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117 Curry is "a sauce" in the UK?

Not just in the UK. It's a different sauce in Holland and another different sauce in Germany.

But the UK one is the weirdest. I'll never forget the time I asked the chippie for chips with curry thinking it would be similar to what I was used to, only to get the same yellowy gloop that you normally get on your rice at the local Indian.


Posted by: Martin Wisse | Link to this comment | 11-19-08 12:08 AM
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But the UK one is the weirdest.

The Japanese roux-style type is also weird, not least because one of the more popular brands is strangely named Baamonto, or "Vermont" curry (presumably because there's something Vermontish about the apples and honey with which it's sweetened).


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 11-19-08 12:49 AM
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Baamonto, or "Vermont" curry (presumably because there's something Vermontish about the apples and honey with which it's sweetened)

It's actually a corruption of "charoset".


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11-19-08 1:12 AM
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The French "curry" sauce is dull to disgusting, too. Sounds a bit like Jesus' Japanese thing only not as tasty.


Posted by: OneFatEnglishman | Link to this comment | 11-19-08 1:27 AM
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Are kiss deserts an established tenet of Randian philosophy

yes they are. how much more do you want to know?


Posted by: dsquared | Link to this comment | 11-19-08 1:34 AM
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My follow up comment doesn't seem to have gone. I meant, of course, to say 2012 not 2008.

If Lieberman quit, wouldn't the replacement be a Republican?


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 11-19-08 4:35 AM
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Luther Martin, I think, was one of only 3(?) who attended the Constitutional Convention and decided not to sign the proposed Constitution. I used to know each of their names, but then I passed my oral exams and the knowledge disappeared immediately (never having been required during the exam).


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 11-19-08 5:27 AM
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If Lieberman quit, wouldn't the replacement be a Republican?

With a Republican governor in CT, most likely. But my attempt to find a comprehensive website for senator replacement rules state-by-state is proving frustrating. Fucking federalism.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 11-19-08 6:05 AM
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About Lieberman (well, more about the Senate Democrats, really), this seems right.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-19-08 6:51 AM
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Are kiss deserts an established tenet of Randian philosophy

Like the Sahara.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-19-08 8:32 AM
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Like the Sahara.

Nary a glam-rock band as far as the eye can see.


Posted by: OneFatEnglishman | Link to this comment | 11-19-08 8:54 AM
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UK ketchup is awful.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 11-19-08 9:41 AM
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On Lieberman, Jim Henley seems the most right of all

BTW, Obama admin:

White House Chief of Staff: Clinton fixer
White House Chief Counsel: Clinton's defense lawyer in impeachment
Attorney General: #2 at Justice under Clinton
Secretary of State: Hillary Clinton

Can I hear some more about how we need to elect Obama to defeat the evil Clintonite hegemony?


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 11-19-08 9:48 AM
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215.last: I'll eat that crow. A small helping -- I was only bullish on BHO relative to HRC -- but I got out there.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 11-19-08 10:10 AM
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Can I hear some more about how we need to elect Obama to defeat the evil Clintonite hegemony?

I still don't see Mark Penn or Lanny Davis on the list. If all that was accomplished was culling the most odious Clintonites from the next Democratic administration, then it was well worth doing.


Posted by: Gabriel | Link to this comment | 11-19-08 10:21 AM
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For Randians, it's deserts all the way down. It comes from the parenting practice -- if you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding dessert.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 11-19-08 10:29 AM
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UK ketchup is awful.

Huh? I liked it - it was sweet instead of salty. For awhile in the US we could get low-salt ketchup which had a similar flavor, but lately low-salt stuff seems to be less common. I blame the new BP pills. Nobody bothers cutting down on salt anymore. It is all low-sugar for the diabetics. Frigging stage two diabetes.


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a lot of non-heinz uk ketchup is quite vinegary -- sometimes bcz the owner of the establishment has diluted it with vinegar to eke it out a bit further

and the stuff you get on hot dogs in cinemas will take the skin off your lips it's so acid (actually not sure if this is still true, these days i would rather lick the armrests than eat anything from the foyer)


Posted by: tierce de lollardie | Link to this comment | 11-19-08 2:11 PM
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