No reason was given for why the children were removed, however, and Holland Township police chief David Van Gilson told the site they had not received any reports of abuse or negligence.
I'd say, on the Unfit Scale of 1 to 10, these naming shenanigans make the parents a 7, and it takes a 9 to remove the kids from a home. So something more was probably going on. But this is a great way to get CPS to come idly knocking at your door, at least.
Right. But if it was basically just the names, that's pretty crazy. And I'm not sure the names plus something-less-than-perceived-full-cooperation-with-CPS wouldn't be enough to justify removal in the eyes of some social workers.
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Every one of the visible comments on that article has got to be a spoof.
If you don't want your kid to move far from home, you can call him "Ihave abomb". He'll never fly.
Every one of the visible comments on that article has got to be a spoof.
I don't see why. Isn't the Daily News the official newspaper of stupid people?
Great. Now I owe Ari an apology. Thanks a lot, neo-Nazi parents.
5: but that would be a great name for someone whose family name was "Basticass".
BLK@PROUD4LIFE Jan 14, 2009 7:56:52 PM Report Offensive Post I GUESS NAMING MY SON NAT TURNER IS NOT SUCH A GOOD IDEA.Posted by: OPIONATED AFRO-AMERICAN
Opinionated, that is. There's something about all-caps that disables my internal spell-checker.
And no matter how much you admire Scandinavian UN diplomats, avoid U Turner.
SCANDINAVIAN, BURMESE, SAME THING. SLOVENIANS ARE SUPERIOR TO ALL
Don't a lot of European countries have rules that say you can't call your child `Idiot' or `Shouldhaveusedacondom'?
And, it is just me or are Slovenians really touchy ever since the split from the Czechs.
And then there's Odd Bull, who was an important UN diplomat during the Six Day War.
And, it is just me or are Slovenians really touchy ever since the split from the Czechs.
Just when people confuse them with Slovakians.
Is she an opiated slovenian, or an opiated slovakian?
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['Those slo people get confused under the influence.']
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Crap. Crap crap crap. I just discovered, via that ridiculous google-earth map of Prop 8 donors, that my grandma gave the Prop 8 a whole buncha money, as did a bunch of really nice LDS people I grew up with. But grandma! Jesus.
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The Slovenians split from the Croatians, the Serbs, the Montenegrins, the Macedonians, the Kosavars, the Vojvodinans, the Bosnians, and the all but forgotten Herzogovinans.
BUT NOT THE FUCKING CZECHS.
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I know about half of the people in the East Bay who donated, and over the hills in Lamorinda I recognize a bunch of names. The church must have been organizing like crazy. Obviously, I didn't really want to know about the extent of this before, or this wouldn't have come as such a shock.
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19. I forget. Whichever one does the yodeling.
it's just a bunch of syllables strung together, and they stumbled upon the fanciful combinations of Adolph Hitler
That one is straightforward.
JoyceLynn Aryan Nation
That one is fucking funny. She totally went down to the meeting to listen to the speaker explain the superiority of the white race and maybe meet some guys, but OMG, there were totally a bunch of dorks there. They totally weren't superior AT ALL. How is she supposed to help create the master race without some masterful guy [*]????
, and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie?
That's the weirdy. Tried to name the kid for a Nazi, but just couldn't find a book with a list of names in it, and so they just guessed.
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['And the next one can be Guerre de Richlanzer von Wolfen-Goldstein.']
[*] Like that guy, at Mars Hill, but more, like, superior
22: Sorry to hear that, Jack. I don't suppose you're in a position to do any useful prosletyzing?
Not unusually so -- why do you ask? (God,I love being able to edit comments.)
29:I once fooled a temp -- she had no idea where we kept the office supplies.
Stanley can edit comments too, you know.
Oh, he thinks he can, but when it comes down to it, he just doesn't have the guts.
I refer all further taunts to comment 29.
I don't suppose you're in a position to do any useful prosletyzing?
I don't think so. My grandmother had a ringside seat to her gay brother-in-law's long-term, committed relationship; compared with that example, there's nothing I could say. I'm just really bummed about her donation. Another family in the neighborhood gave the campaign money I seriously doubt they could afford; they were always cash-strapped. And the wife of my former bishop! And the really cool lady my mom worked with in the stake! I just kinda hope that this whole campaign has left a sour taste in the donors' mouths.
I just kinda hope that this whole campaign has left a sour taste in the donors' mouths.
Why do you think they would regret it now?
I just kinda hope that this whole campaign has left a sour taste in the donors' mouths.
Much less the catchers' mouths.
BUT NOT THE FUCKING CZECHS.
<Bush>You forgot Austro-Hungary!</Bush>
Whichever one does the yodeling.
Please dear God, tell me there's stock footage of an Aryan yodeling contest.
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['I can this the Himmler Waltz!']
Please dear God, tell me there's stock footage of an Aryan yodeling contest.
I suspect most yodeling contests are pretty Aryan.
Why do you think they would regret it now?
I can see them as considering the donations almost as tithing, given privately to the church as moral support for a cause that wasn't really in question. Now it's not so private, it's become very clearly political, and the cause is far, far from over.
I mean, pretty much every donor from Oakland to Richmond is LDS. The ones I don't know personally have last names that match old clans. The aftermath of this proposition has been a massive outing of LDS political influence---and historically the church hasn't come out so well when its hand becomes overt.
Ugh, Jackmormon, that is depressing and disappointing.
Not to imply anything about the politics of yodelers, but I suspect 38 is right.
No, it's their kid, their choice.
To counterbalance, should the kid should have the enshrined right to kick the living shit out of them once, when old enough, if the name is bad?
What sort of covert political influence has the LDS church been exercising in recent years?
I suspect most yodeling contests are pretty Aryan.
But... but... I need a reality TV show called Aryan Ydol.
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['Could it be any worse than kindergarten beauty contests? It would certainly be funnier.']
The event: Yodel Idol! The place: The Canary Islands!
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It seems plans for my California road trip have run into a bit of a barrier: the Sierra Nevada.
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What sort of covert political influence has the LDS church been exercising in recent years?
Other than prop 8, you mean?
44 Yodeling is only funny for about five minutes. After that, it gets old quickly. I'd rather go to Austria and ask them about their kangaroos.
47: I meant in contrast to the overt political influence, which Jackmormon cites Prop 8 as an example of. In by from.
43.---The church owns a lot of the land in Utah. They've been a major political partner in the Republican Revolution. They're massively overrepresented in the CIA and state department (I'd like to give a shout out to the current ambassador to Jordan and his wife---y'all are awesome!). I don't really know why Pres. Hinckley received the medal of freedom, but I suspect it had something to do with political favors.
Would it be child abuse to make my son go stand in line at the Kennedy Center for those free MLK Aretha Franklin tickets?
It seems plans for my California road trip have run into a bit of a barrier: the Sierra Nevada.
Were you planning on going with your gf? Shouldn't be a problem as long as she's got some, uh, meat on her, IYKWIMAITYD.
Oh, sorry. In that case, a cooler full of extra food should do.
GIRLFRIENDS ARE NOT FOR EATING
UNLESS THEY ARE EX-GIRLFRIENDS YUM
59 IS WRONG WRONG WRONG.
I'd say, on the Unfit Scale of 1 to 10, these naming shenanigans make the parents a 7, and it takes a 9 to remove the kids from a home.
However, Heath reportedly denies the Holocaust and their home is decorated with swastikas.
look, an 11.
I keep meaning to figure this one mystery involving a famous awful name - remember the Ima Hogg and Ura Hogg, sisters. The thing is, I thought that those sisters would be like, I don't know, 4 years old. But there's also an Ima Hogg who is a very prolific supporter of the arts. Both Ima Hogg's appear to be from Texas. So, either there's a really rich philanthropical 4-year old out there or, there were actually two sets of parents, not in the whole world, just in the state of Texas, brain damged enough to name their daughter Ima Hogg. Even for someone with as dim a view of people as myself, this is saddening.
63: there's a Wikipedia article on Ima Hogg that may help.
63: Ima Hogg existed and is well known. The only Ura Hogg I've heard of was a mythical sister of hers.
Ina (spelling?) and Ura Dick, sisters, swedish iirc. exist.
Ima Hogg actually sounds like a fine human being:
"In 1929, she founded the Houston Child Guidance Center, which provides counseling for disturbed children and their families. Through her brother's will, she established the Hogg Foundation for Mental Health at the University of Texas at Austin in 1940. Hogg successfully ran for a seat on the Houston School Board in 1943, where she worked to remove gender and race as criteria for determining pay and established art education programs for black students."
Ima Hogg actually sounds like a fine human being
Everything I've heard about her supports this.
It seems plans for my California road trip have run into a bit of a barrier: the Sierra Nevada.
Your car doesn't go uphill?
Most of the roads are closed in winter.
Most of the roads are closed in winter.
Where exactly did you want to go? I assure you that there are ways to get through the Sierra, even in the depth of winter.
I was originally thinking of crossing at Yosemite, but it looks like the only open roads across are a considerable distance north and south of there.
This is hardly an insuperable problem, of course.
If you crossed over at Tahoe, you would naturally stop at my house, right? You could stay over, if you were tired from driving. You knew that already, of course.
I was in fact thinking of crossing at Tahoe. If I do I will certainly stop at your house.
Planning on catching teo on the rebound, Megan?
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No more masturbating to Number 6. I am too old.
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74: If you have the time, I would strongly recommend going via Death Valley and then over the Panamints to 395 and up the Owens Valley past Mammoth to Tahoe (where you can cut over on 50 if you don't want to go on up to 80 & do the Donner thing). Brilliant stuff the whole way.
78 -- Just be sure to curse Los Angeles and all its works at five minute intervals as you drive through the Owens Valley. It's traditional.
74: If you have the time, I would strongly recommend going via Death Valley and then over the Panamints to 395 and up the Owens Valley past Mammoth to Tahoe (where you can cut over on 50 if you don't want to go on up to 80 & do the Donner thing). Brilliant stuff the whole way.
going via Death Valley and then over the Panamints to 395 and up the Owens Valley past Mammoth to Tahoe
I did this drive last summer on vacation. It is a long drive but I agree with the assessment: Brilliant stuff the whole way. The view of Mt. Whitney from the east is itself almost worth it.
I suspect most yodeling contests are pretty Aryan.
See, it's assumptions like this that contribute to the oppression of yodelling Dravidians.
Speaking of last names involving Butt, I find it amusing that major Texas supermarket chain H-E-B got its name from former owner Howard E. Butt, who realized that calling his store "Butt Grocery" or some such would not be good for business.
Just be sure to curse Los Angeles and all its works at five minute intervals as you drive through the Owens Valley. It's traditional.
And it's fun!
My dad was born while my gramps was at sea working on a tuna boat. Gramma and Grampa had agreed to name him Harold, but when the time came Gramma named him John. She neglected to tell Gramps on his return. Dad was five years old when his father found out his real name.
An Indian friend of mine went to college with a guy whose name, pronounced Ah-Nal Duk-Shut, is spelled Anal Dikshit.
I suspect most yodeling contests are pretty Aryan.
Doesn't the azan count as a yodel? Are there azan contests?
Where exactly did you want to go? I assure you that there are ways to get through the Sierra, even in the depth of winter.
This is true, but it can also be a pain in the ass. It took me 3x normal time once, middle of the night, 10 degrees or so in a vehicle without a heater. No fun.
It seems plans for my California road trip have run into a bit of a barrier: the Sierra Nevada.
Unfogged Donner party. You could twitter the progress of cannibalism and despair.
82: You can say that again.
...at widely spaced intervals.
89: January 12. It commenc'd snowing at 8 o Clock this morning and has not stopped all day. The last of the tofu now exhausted. Decided to eat Matthew Yglesias.
I suspect most yodeling contests are pretty Aryan.
Such as the well known pygmies who yodel up and down the Appenzell.
January 13. Continued snowing. Most of the Yglesias now gone. Why didn't we invite that du Toit guy?
If you have the time, I would strongly recommend going via Death Valley and then over the Panamints to 395 and up the Owens Valley past Mammoth to Tahoe (where you can cut over on 50 if you don't want to go on up to 80 & do the Donner thing). Brilliant stuff the whole way.
That was in fact the exact itinerary I had in mind. Thanks.