Re: The return of Jena & Gomorrah

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God, the only one of those I've heard of, I'm not fond of.

I'm sure it'll be great, neb.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 03-26-09 2:22 PM
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So, basically, you might turn out to be fond of all of the rest. Doubtless you'll be tuning in.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-26-09 2:24 PM
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Because it's got a funky beat and I can bug out to it is neither necessary nor sufficient -- merely adequate.

And don'y forget Nouvelle Vague.



Posted by: Econolicious | Link to this comment | 03-26-09 2:25 PM
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Gram Parsons can be great. If you don't enjoy that track then, I'm sorry, your soul is damaged in some crucial way.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 03-26-09 2:25 PM
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Plus modesty. But of course you didn't mention that one, what with being so modest and all.


Posted by: Bitchphd | Link to this comment | 03-26-09 2:47 PM
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What's that clause doing there in that first sentence? Passed out on the couch drunk?


Posted by: paranoid android | Link to this comment | 03-26-09 4:41 PM
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You're querying W-lfs-n's sentence structure? Somewhere between bold and pointless, isn't it? I mean, the first sentence is word salad, but I assume it was meant that way.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03-26-09 4:43 PM
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Previous titles [for the radio show, to wit, "music to grow a beard to"] have been deemed exclusionary I return to this [title, to wit, "Jena & Gomorrah"], which I like just as much anyway, thanks, honestly, for a limited time one-day-only return engagement at KZSU [a radio station, that is, I'm doing a show, and need a title for it] tomorrow from noon to three pee em Pacific.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-26-09 4:45 PM
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Doesn't it need either an "As" before "Previous", or a "so" after "exclusionary"?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03-26-09 4:47 PM
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Oh, right, I see. I meant to write "having been deemed" and managed to miss that I didn't. Twice.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-26-09 4:47 PM
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I assume that intended was "having been deemed", making the first into a dependent clause, as is proper.


Posted by: paranoid android | Link to this comment | 03-26-09 4:49 PM
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a lifetime of experience married to a subtletil, restless aesthetic sensibility

Fixed for consistency.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 03-26-09 5:15 PM
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restless aeæsthetic sensibility

And so.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03-26-09 5:18 PM
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I'm not sure what you two are getting at here.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-26-09 5:28 PM
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Now now, Ben, don't be so modest.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 03-26-09 5:33 PM
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a lifetime of experiënce


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-26-09 5:59 PM
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And "harmoniöus".


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-26-09 6:03 PM
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Not to mentiön "mentiön".


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 03-26-09 7:12 PM
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Geez I keep requesting Björk - löts öf Björk.


Posted by: bill | Link to this comment | 03-26-09 8:40 PM
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Those aren't diæreses, bill. I scorn them.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-26-09 8:43 PM
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neb nosflow: objectively anti-umlaut.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-26-09 8:47 PM
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I'm an ablaut man from way back; I'm even a member of the society.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-26-09 8:49 PM
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How do you feel about anlaut and inlaut?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-26-09 9:13 PM
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-ieren ist menschlich, allzumenschlich !


Posted by: paan daya | Link to this comment | 03-26-09 9:20 PM
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Inlaut and anlaut appear merely to be types of sounds, not types of sound changes. I scorn them.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-26-09 9:23 PM
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Regarding this page of 1,302 extremely short reviews of bands who played SXSW, I've deployed the techniques of statistical quality control to screen the list.

Namely, I filtered everything that wasn't either top-ranked or bottom-ranked - management by exception, see? - on the grounds that if the reviewer had given someone 5 stars there must at least be a chance they had something, and as I can't assume that his tastes are similar to mine, if he row Z'd them this implied they had some sort of interesting feature which I might actually like.

As you know, Bob, if you survey a population and ask them to rate something on a five-point scale, they tend to give everyone a 3 and therefore avoid making a judgment either way, so my methodology was also intended to counter that. The upshot is that I've got a pile of 31 MP3s by bands I've never heard of before (with one exception).

And I can't tell which ones were the 5s or 1s, which I think validates my method.



Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 3:12 AM
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26: I am not following your method rigorously, but it's influencing my decisionmaking - I'm picking all the 5s & 1s that don's sound awful to me, plus various of the others that sound maybe intriguing. But mostly focusing high/low. We'll see.

I do wish that the 6 words were attached to the songs, as I will surely be thinking, "WTF did I pick this?"


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 10:43 AM
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Ten minutes, bitches.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 12:52 PM
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You should listen in because I've been testing out a Cornelius Pig voice.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 12:56 PM
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Er, Cornfed Pig.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 12:57 PM
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i hope there'll be a recorded link to listen afterwards


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 1:02 PM
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There won't.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 1:07 PM
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26: What is the protocol for Unfogged mixtapes? One big MP3? A zip/tar/gz/whatever archive of them? Some weirdo format I've not heard of? We should probably compare the track listings at least.


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 1:24 PM
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Generally zip files. Once I put up a tarball and Lunar Rockette made fun of me.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 1:34 PM
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hm, that's sad


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 1:56 PM
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Hey, what do you know, I'm actually enjoying this!

(How's that for a back-handed compliment?)


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 1:59 PM
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Except for the talking bit.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:00 PM
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(I kid, I kid).


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:00 PM
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Will you be offering an exegesis of "The New Soft Shoe"?


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:00 PM
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Does it stand in need of one?


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:06 PM
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I don't like the talking bit either, Parenthetical. I prefer to let my shirts speak for me.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:07 PM
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Kissing might not translate very well on the radio...


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:08 PM
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To me it does. Who is Walker? What is cord and line?


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:09 PM
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Yes, that's true, but I pour out my soul's passions through music, instead.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:10 PM
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The current song is leading my cat to try to chew on my speakers. Not sure if that's a compliment or not.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:11 PM
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I prefer to let my shirts speak for me.

Me too!


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:11 PM
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This? The bouzouki? What's wrong with your cat?


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:12 PM
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47 works surprisingly well as a response to 46.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:13 PM
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It might mean she likes it - she is only a cat, after all, hard to ascribe much.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:14 PM
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I think the principle of charity requires ascribing a preference for the track to her.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:15 PM
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I just tuned in, and I like it, even if it is a little monotonous (I realize that is possibly a dangerous thing to say around W-lfs-n . . . That wasn't a challenge.)


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:16 PM
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It is true that the current track is, shall we say, minimal.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:17 PM
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She's done it a few other times, W-lfs-n, and only with good songs. So, clearly, it means she likes it.

And I would die laughing if I saw someone actually wearing apo's shirt link, since you just know that it would be the sort of guy who you'd never want to imagine in a compromising position.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:18 PM
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And I'm afraid that you'll find the next track, after the Mirah, even more distinguished in that regard, Nick. But it will be worth it.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:19 PM
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But it will be worth it.

Be that as it may, I have to go make lunch.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:21 PM
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Neb's next show: "Music to Make Lunch to"


Posted by: Otto von Bisquick | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:27 PM
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"Music to Make Lunch to"

It's peanut butter jelly time!


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:28 PM
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It would have to involve lots of organ music and dark undertones, since for some reason I think of Neb's cooking as involving offal and unctuous sauces.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:30 PM
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It's peanut butter jelly time!

Nooooo! Just when I had forgotten all about that damn song....


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:30 PM
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OK, now the track is so minimal that I can barely perceive that it is still playing. Time to get coffee.


Posted by: Otto von Bisquick | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:31 PM
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:(

It really is still playing and the dynamics haven't even changed much.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:32 PM
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And it will continue playing for seven more minutes, but the transition—my god!—it'll blow your mind.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:33 PM
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You should sell cars, neb. Just substitute "transmission" for "transition".


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:35 PM
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Have you included gagaku in any of your shows, neb? Seems like it would fit.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:35 PM
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This car is guaranteed to keep running for at least seven minutes.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:35 PM
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I haven't. That's a good idea. I did see a gagaku ensemble play in chicago for the occasion of pierre boulez' birthday once, though, and it was very enjoyable.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:36 PM
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My car can run all night, neb.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:36 PM
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My starter won't start.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:37 PM
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Whoa.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:40 PM
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Or wait, is this a new song?


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:40 PM
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Toldja.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:40 PM
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Yes, this is a new song.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:41 PM
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I did see a gagaku ensemble play in chicago for the occasion of pierre boulez' birthday

This gladdens me greatly.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:42 PM
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Hmm, now I feel sheepish. You did say to expect a startling transition!


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:42 PM
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The startlingness is that one track was proto-onkyo and the other was Zappa covering doowop.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:44 PM
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I thought it would be within the first song itself - I actually quite liked the contrast of the two songs, so I'd say objective achieved.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:45 PM
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Shorter NickS@55: "But really, my cows".


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:46 PM
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Huzzah!


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:47 PM
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73: there was also performed this, which was fantastic.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 2:54 PM
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I'm disappointed that you didn't try to pronounce the obscure dialect, neb.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 3:04 PM
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Are we sure that radio shows only available to a tiiny sliver of the commentariat don't qualify as off-blog communications?


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 3:15 PM
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I'm talking such shit about you during the mic breaks, JRoth.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 3:16 PM
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only available to a tiiny sliver of the commentariat

How so?


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 3:18 PM
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Oh my god! Neb! That was mean.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 3:26 PM
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That was hilarious.


Posted by: Otto von Bisquick | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 3:26 PM
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Well, ok, what I meant was hilarious.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 3:28 PM
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That'll teach me, I guess.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 3:28 PM
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85 seconded.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 3:28 PM
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I'll find you and I 'll kill you.


Posted by: Beneath the Pittsburgh architect. | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 3:28 PM
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No, no, it was great.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 3:28 PM
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I couldn't even continue backannouncing the tracks.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 3:29 PM
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Oh my god! Neb! That was mean.

Parenthetical has been lying to us about the "history grad student" business. Turns out she's a Pittsburgh architect after all.


Posted by: Otto von Bisquick | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 3:36 PM
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I'm really JRoth in disguise, yes.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 3:37 PM
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?

I wasn't aware that P. purported to be a history grad student in the first place.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 3:40 PM
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The lurkers are giving neb accolades in e-mail.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 3:41 PM
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neb, will there be an online archive of this show for those of us unable to listen?


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 3:43 PM
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There will not, Robust.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 3:44 PM
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That's not very nice, neb. I think Parenthetical may be onto something.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 3:45 PM
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I missed the cover of "people get ready"? Drat.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 3:47 PM
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94: I do occasionally purport to be that, yes.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 3:52 PM
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I am feeling both affronted and vindicated. I am affronticated.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 3:53 PM
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Hey, you got a shout out, JRoth..that's more than any of us got! And we're actually listening! (Which you can do online. For the next 8 minutes).


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 3:54 PM
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102: Oh wow, cool. But I only just saw this. Oh well.

Thanks, neb.

Was this "shout-out" in the form of "Here's one for my main homie, JRoth," or what?


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 4:48 PM
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No, it was more along the lines of an insult about being beneath a Pittsburgh architect ... but still!


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 4:52 PM
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The basic drift was that anyone who didn't like a particular song ("I'm a Mineralist") would have to be really low, like lower than low, lower than Pittsburgh architect.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 9:59 PM
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Whereupon neb, having cracked himself up and unable to speak, started up the music without announcing the previous set. Let the record show.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 10:07 PM
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Yes, that's true. That also happened. It didn't help that a friend of mine was standing at the doorway to the studio and he had no idea what the significance of what I had said was, so he was laughing too.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 10:17 PM
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Did you enlighten him?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 10:26 PM
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Eventually.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-27-09 10:32 PM
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re: 33

Yeah, a zip of the various MP3s, stuck on a file host. I usually convert all of the files to the same bitrate, too, but that might just be me.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 03-28-09 1:31 AM
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