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The feeling was you were bored.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 1:04 PM
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He could at least get off your lawn.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 1:09 PM
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It's like these kids today don't even have a word for dolce far niente.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 1:14 PM
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What with all the cognitive benefits of boredom he's probably getting smarter by the minute, too, the little brat.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 1:18 PM
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I couldn't even remember the feeling of having a whole summer free.

Up til 16 and legal work age, I did. Chores, family vacations, odd jobs and babysitting, but mostly free time.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 1:32 PM
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5: But what did it feel like, Bob?


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 1:44 PM
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I guess I'll be the first european to come and say that that's insane. Cause it is.


Posted by: David Weman | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 1:52 PM
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Harold Von Braunhut, the inventor and seller of sea monkeys and x-ray specs channeled much of the profits channeled a lot of the profits to the American Nazi Party and similar organizations, despite being jewish.

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Posted by: David Weman | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 1:55 PM
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??? !


Posted by: David Weman | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 1:56 PM
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It felt pretty Minnesota, JP.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 1:56 PM
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6:Don't remember really, which is the point and purpose of unstructured time, I suppose. Walking in sunshine, warm summer showers, west coast baseball on the radio. Wasn't bored, tho a lot of my friends were.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 2:01 PM
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There were comments here recently about Huckleberry Fin in Mongolia Afghanistan, and elsewhere. When I was a kid my summers were unscheduled and only very loosely supervised.

I was just saying to my two sisters (the "Fuck off the Pounds" sisters) that it was a lot more fun then pretending to be an adult than it ever was being an adult.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 2:02 PM
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I'm looking forward to my impending law school graduation so that I can return to unemployment and enjoy boredom again.


Posted by: ed bowlinger | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 2:05 PM
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Boredom is always a failure of the imagination. You should tell your brother that. Then he'll really hate you.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 2:11 PM
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Related: I just saw this rather incredible article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/05/weekinreview/05greenhouse.html?ref=europe


Posted by: David Weman | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 2:11 PM
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Mostly, I have not had a summer free since I was 15, which is over 35 years ago. It was a glorious summer.

The closest I have come since was after I returned from the first Gulf War in 1991. I took 45 days leave. Being between wives, I was on my own. I flew to Oregon to see my folks and then drove from there to Mexico, back up to Montana to see my sister then back to Pennsylvania, where I had been stationed, taking an indirect route so I could visit friends.

Once I got to Pennsylvania I was told that they all appreciated that I had volunteered to leave my nice ROTC instructor job to go to combat in the gulf, but they had filled my position and I had to go find another one. After about three weeks of hanging out in a motel room and not working very hard, I was told that my next assignment was in Korea. So I took even more vacation, plus travel time, to drive back across country to San Francisco, via Montana and Oregon to fly to Korea. It was quite fun, just me, my Saab and my collection of CDs.


Posted by: Idealist | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 2:22 PM
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Watched this This Uber-Indie last night, which is partly about misogyny and Buddhism. Near the end, the lead is slowly waving his hand thru a light beam, gettin illuminated. It's all he has left, but gives him the only peace he's ever known.

God's truth, I feel guilty being productive when I could be watching a creek flow over some rocks. I want too much.

Lots of activities, parents, wouldn't want your kids to grow up to be me.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 2:29 PM
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14: Right. Remind him that only boring people are ever bored.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 2:50 PM
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A sign that I may have followed various science blog links a few clicks too deep:

Let me explain this, in terms even a Ph.D. mathematician can understand.

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Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 3:00 PM
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The thing is, the world is full of things to do, if you just shut off the part of your brain that worries about how other people will judge your pastime.

Why not make a giant statue of Cthlulu out of toothpaste? Paint a series of monochromatic canvasses using magenta house paint. Design a full suit of metal armor for a barbie doll. Do an entomological survey of your backyard.

As long as you don't worry that other people will think you weird, all these and more are live options.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 3:06 PM
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Take up cross dressing. Invent a language for the aliens in Larry Niven novels. Make your own pornography. Form a band using only instruments found in your kitchen.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 3:10 PM
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From the link in 15:

"I actually believe that Americans believe in their political system more than workers do in other parts of the world," Mr. Gerard said. He said large labor demonstrations are often warranted in Canada and European countries to pressure parliamentary leaders. Demonstrations are less needed in the United States, he said, because often all that is needed is some expert lobbying in Washington to line up the support of a half-dozen senators.

Yes, like the expert lobbying that got the U.S. the best healthcare insurance system in the world.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 3:11 PM
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7 gets it exactly right.

My 12 year old is so happy to be on her Easter holidays. She's loving school, and her only gripe is that it has severely curtailed her reading time. She's planning to read a book a day for the fortnight.

Talking of the youth of today .... we've been away at a party all weekend - ended up with 8 families (21 kids) all staying over at this one house. My 8 year old and his friend managed to stay awake the entire night playing on their DS's. We left at 2 this afternoon, he immediately fell asleep in the car, and hasn't woken up since (now 10something pm).


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 3:12 PM
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Write Little House on the Prairie fan fiction. Start a chili pepper garden. Bake bread.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 3:18 PM
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20: The thing is, the world is full of things to do, if you just shut off the part of your brain that worries about how other people will judge your pastime.

Seriously.

As a one-time professional student and now self-employed person (which a friend described once as being a perpetual graduate student), non-work-time is a given. You pay the price, income-wise, of course.

Becks's brother is bored during a single isolated week because he's young, man! Probably wants some action! Doesn't know how to self-stimulate.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 3:21 PM
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rob's fantasy to-do list is great.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 3:22 PM
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Probably wants some action! Doesn't know how to self-stimulate.

Oh he probably does. After a while things start to chafe, though.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 3:22 PM
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He could go to a dairy and see how milk is made! He could produce and distribute a series of window displays on home safety!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 3:24 PM
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Self-stimulation is boring.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 3:24 PM
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I think there is serious dramatic potential in the possibility that teenaged Almanzo hooked up with teenaged Mary, because teenaged Laura wouldn't go all the way.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 3:26 PM
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28: I took an environmental ethics class to a dairy farm. We saw the manure lagoon, the newborn calves separated from their mothers, the guys changing the milking machines while norteño blasted over the sound system, everything.

Later I received an anonymous tip that the guy who ran the farm was exploiting his illegal labor. I passed it on to the local NPR reporter, who said it was probably a slur.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 3:30 PM
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Self-stimulation is boring.

Yeah? But I read David Foster Wallace essays all morning, and wasn't remotely bored! At some point if those who have a familiarity with him might tell me what else of his I might read, I'd appreciate it.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 3:35 PM
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Norteño on the sound system? Milking machines? Bah, when I was milking cows we had to use needlenose pliers, and as for music, all there was was a transistor radio blasting the sounds of Lawrence Welk stabbing himself.


Posted by: OPINIONATED YORKSHIREMAN | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 3:39 PM
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32: The Girl with Curious Hair and A Supposedly Fun Thing I'll Never Do Again are both good Sunday reading.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 3:42 PM
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33: Oh, ouch, on so many levels. My family brought my grandmother to see Lawrence Welk - live -- many years ago, for her birthday. She was transported.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 3:43 PM
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34: FM, the latter is what I've been reading and enjoying tremendously. I can probably answer this question myself, but DFW is plainly intriguing me (crush-level) and seems a bit dangerous to my psyche.

I'll just go and look up some reviews, shall I?


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 3:47 PM
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Something I read said that boredom isn't an absence of things to do, but the presence of repressed desires. You can't do what you want, so you don't want to do anything else either.

It may have been a Freudian thing.

Someone else (Bertrand Russell) said that boredom (cynicism?) is leisure without power. I believe that too.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 3:51 PM
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15: Horrible.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 3:52 PM
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Yeah. well I'm bored too.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 3:53 PM
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DFW is plainly intriguing me (crush-level)

My wife knew him when he was at U of Arizona, and she said he had that effect on all the laydeez. She has a signed first of his first book, BTW (in ppbk, though).


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 3:54 PM
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boredom isn't an absence of things to do, but the presence of repressed desires. You can't do what you want, so you don't want to do anything else either.

As extravagant solutions came easily to him, he swore never to go back to Paris and never even to enquire after Madame Arnoux.

All the same, he found himself pining even for the smelly gas jets and clattering buses. he'd turn over in his mind every word that had been spokedn to him, recall the lilt of her voice, the light in her eyes; and since he saw himself as a dead man, he ended up doing precisely nothing.

He would get up very late and look out of his window at the wagoner's carts going by. The first six months were particularly agonizing.


Posted by: flaubert | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:01 PM
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I finished law school on May 1, 1991, and didn't have to be anywhere until bar review started like June 20, in Missoula. I went via Quebec City, Iowa, and Seattle. Then school half days until the end of July, and I could cut whenever I already knew the material well enough to get a C- on the exam (fairly often). All together, it was a pretty good little interlude.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:03 PM
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Bored people can come over to my house and pack stuff in boxes.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:04 PM
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Synopsis of article: The American tradition of individuality, which nobody would give up for the world because they don't know of any alternative, leads to most people's lives being pervaded by hopelessness and dread. Union leaders steer clear of having their members be militant in any way, because they know human beings are valueless cogs and their jobs can be shipped overseas at any time. Nobody has any idea why things are different in Europe.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:05 PM
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40: I'm fighting that, the crush thing, though I'm not sure why.

Thing is, very few people write that way (not referring to Infinite Jest and such, haven't read the fiction). He's good at the essays; I can see the narrative craftsmanship at work. Generally, though, the ladies will fall for expressions of vulnerability that edit out any grandstanding at all. It's not exactly an art: it's being human. Hrm. That's feeble.

Anyway it doesn't hurt that he appears to have been good-looking.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:05 PM
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39: Write an opera based on Chris Claremont era X-Men! Masturbate! Read David Foster Wallace!


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:07 PM
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He ought to get himself down here. Over on the Redneck Riviera there are loads of young Yank students on spring break and they seem to be having a cracking time. My new mates had to go home, but little Napoleon and Lucretia have been having the greatest time. Napoleon Adolf has learned to body-surf.


Posted by: dsquared | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:10 PM
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Throw rocks. Dig a really big hole. Gather crayfish.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:14 PM
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46: But I have no musical talent, see 29, and... okay, I guess I could read.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:17 PM
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Twiddle thumbs! Watch paint dry!


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:17 PM
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Stare fixedly at a point in space until you get a food pellet! Learn to chew through your own arm! Curse the uncaring god that put you here!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:20 PM
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Man, how hard can this be? Walk in the woods by yourself with a half-loaf of crusty bread and some cheese and marinated something-or-other in the pocket, sit down and nosh and chill out. Have a sunbath.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:20 PM
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Drunk-dial strangers in faraway places. Mix explosives. Have a desultory affair.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:21 PM
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50: Ironically, I had good intentions of buying paint today and starting on Rory's room redecorating. Had I been industrious, I could indeed be watching paint dry, and would be happy to do so!


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:21 PM
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Pull a sweater halfway over your head then give up! Punch holes in the wall! Find some plastic to burn!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:22 PM
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Convince others to whitewash a fence! Explore a cave! Swing a dead cat around in a graveyard!


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:23 PM
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Have a desultory affair.

Bad. Avoid.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:24 PM
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Go at dusk through narrow streets! Watch lonely-men in shirt sleeves! Lean out of windows!


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:24 PM
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57: But not boring!


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:25 PM
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Boredom is the death of the self.


Posted by: Harry Frankfurt | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:25 PM
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57: Let him figure that out himself!


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:25 PM
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I'm trying to convince eekbeat we should go on a bike ride while it's still light out, but it's really part of a broader advanced tax-avoidance strategy.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:25 PM
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Lather. Rinse. Repeat ad infinitum.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:27 PM
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Stand on a rooftop and listen to the city tell you of its sins!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:28 PM
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The flesh is sad, alas! - and I've read all the books. (Mallarme)

I've always hated that. It just doesn't make any sense. There's no way to read all the books, and I've had to start trimming down my to-read list because of mortality considerations.

Presumably it's a persona, etc., and Mallarme's message was quite other, but I hate that stupid persona.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:28 PM
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We are sitting, for example, in the tasteless train station of some lonely minor railway. It is four hours until the next train arrives. The district is uninspiring. We do have a book in our rucksack, though---shall we read? No. Or think through a problem, some question? We are unable to. We read the timetables or study the table giving the various distances from this station to other places we are not otherwise acquainted with at all. We look at the clock---only a quarter of an hour has gone by. Then we go out onto the local road. We walk up and down, just to have something to do. But it is no use. Then we count the trees along the road, look at our watch again---exactly five minutes since we last looked at it. Fed up with walking back and forth, we sit down on a stone, draw all kinds of figures in the sand, and in so doing catch ourselves looking at our watch again---half an hour---and so on.


Posted by: Martin Heidegger | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:28 PM
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Have a sunbath.

The freezing rain is getting in the way of that one.


Posted by: di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:29 PM
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See how many pencils you can sharpen in an hour and then try to beat that record!


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:31 PM
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No, that's where the bath part comes from.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:31 PM
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Have an interest, and then pursue it!


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:32 PM
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But where does the sun part come from?


Posted by: di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:32 PM
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Determine the country of origin of everything in your house. Blow a bunch of money on a really good bottle of absinthe. Avoid your taxes.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:33 PM
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Planning is an exercise of power, and in a modern state much real power is suffused with boredom. The agents of planning are usually boring; the planning process is boring; the implementation of plans is always boring. In a democracy boredom works for bureaucracies and corporations as smell works for a skunk. It keeps danger away. Power does not have to be exercised behind the scenes. It can be open. The audience is asleep. The modern world is forged amidst our inattention.

Posted by: the organic machine | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:33 PM
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Start preparing dinner far too early. Avoid the books that surround your desk. Go for an aimless walk, and feel as if you've wasted the day.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:34 PM
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Go to a playground and chase the kids around! Dress up as a naturist and surprise your friends! Write hundreds of letters to a favorite actress!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:34 PM
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Obssessively lurk on a group blog for years, without commenting due to inability to find a suitable pseudonym.


Posted by: ? (Help a brother out) | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:37 PM
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Take arms against a sea of troubles, and by opposing, end them.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:37 PM
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Sit around in boxers and a tank top drinking prosecco and watching the second season of Buffy!


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:37 PM
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Dear Lord, the author of Sentimental Education has left my brain. Bronson Pinchot.

Lather was sixty years old today.

Fish is biting So exciting Lunchtime sounds so inviting Angler Bill He gets a thrill Sitting, watching bobbing quill Time seems to stand quite still In a child's world, it always will

Yesterday's dreams
Are tomorrow's sighs
Watch children playing
They seem so wise


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:37 PM
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Stare out the window. Click on 'refresh'. Wait for something to happen.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:37 PM
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76: you're not giving us a lot to work with, there.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:39 PM
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Flaubert!! Flauflauflaubert.

In there somewhere, just needed to relax.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:39 PM
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? (Help a brother out), have you considered 'Thurgood Micklethwait'?


Posted by: beamish | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:40 PM
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Or 'Flauflauflaubert'?


Posted by: beamish | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:40 PM
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57: Let him figure that out himself!

If I'm understanding you correctly, no, really. Not a good idea, the desultory part. Unless you're a younger person, maybe. You're just looking at that terrible moment: why am I doing this?

It's better, if you're just bored, to leave other people out of it, if you're just going to be using them as sources of stimulation.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:41 PM
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Oooh! Sifu Tweety just spoke to me!
Seriously, it's like I've been building this pantheon of all you lot in my head for a long time now, without actually participating in any of this.
My initials are U.S.
Suggestions?


Posted by: Formerly known as ? | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:41 PM
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76: how about "THE SNACKMASTER"? Or "Gigglesaurus"?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:41 PM
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'Wry Cooter' is still available.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:43 PM
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THE SNACKMASTER is nice, but the all-caps might be offputting (and I couldn't always be an opinionated one). Gigglesaurus is... not me.


Posted by: Thurgood Micklethwait? | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:44 PM
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"Unpronounceable awlgh0[igrhiefbj"


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:44 PM
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Interests? Peeves? Distinguishing characteristics.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:45 PM
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Sorry, "awlgh0[igrhiefbj" s/b "Swlgh0[igrhiefbj"


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:45 PM
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Gigglesaurus is... not me.

It could be ironic.


Posted by: beamish | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:45 PM
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hmm.. Let me walk in it a little, this might work.


Posted by: Unpronounceable Awl | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:45 PM
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86 and apparently 89: Person, you need to provide your own pseud. You're unknown. Come up with whatever suits you. If it takes some time, that's fine. It's not a cleverness competition.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:47 PM
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It is one of the distinguishing features of Gigglesaurus to deny being Gigglesaurus.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:47 PM
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'Mission Creep' would be good for an active-duty military type who's kind of skeezy.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:47 PM
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We began by remarking how nice it would be to have a general characterization of what makes for boredom (or conversely, a manual or compendium of the interesting). But now that we can see how interest depends, at least partly, on fluid connections to further foci of interest, it is apparent that any topic-based
characterization would be undercut by an analogue of Moore's Open Question Argument. Given any description of some subject or topic—I mean, of course, one that does not specify howinteresting it is up front—it still makes sense to ask: but is it interesting?

Neither Mill nor Frankfurt seem to have noticed an obvious way out of the problem of boredom. Both assume that the solution would have to be a way of locking interests into place, and enabling them to keep one's attention indefinitely. But even if ideas and ends are constantly being withdrawn from circulation, flatlining can be avoided if there is a steady introduction of new ideas and ends into the system. Why not gracefully concede that one is eventually bound to get bored with whatever ends, ideas or concerns one now has, and look for ways of forestalling tedium by generating new interests to replace them?


Posted by: Elijah Millgram | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:47 PM
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Durkheim & Beckett should be coming, if not already in 73. I guess I could go for the unmemorable unreadable mess between Circe and Ithaca. But that's exhaustion, not boredom.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:47 PM
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Or we could go the other direction:
Sorrosaurus, Sleepysaurus, Tyrannosaurus Tex (you don't happen to be from Texas, do you?)


Posted by: beamish | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:48 PM
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Welcome, ?. Glad you're here.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:48 PM
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95: On the other hand, receiving a pseud from the Mineshaft would make unnamed commenter's formal entry here downright baptisimal.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:48 PM
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"Unpronounceable Awl" is good in that one could easily just address you as "Awl". I like it.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:49 PM
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You could be known as "Commenting person with no pronounceable pseudonym", or "Intercal" for short.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:49 PM
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103: Yes, or "U. Awl"


Posted by: Unpronounceable Awl | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:50 PM
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How about "Bone Awl"?

Or "Awl Sideways"


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:50 PM
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Oh, you should go by the pseudonym "write".


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:51 PM
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102: right, since I've decided to start joining in, I need something to make it stick. If I were to put in a small comment without a clear pseud I probably wouldn't say anything for the next year.
Let the baptism commence?


Posted by: Unpronounceable Awl | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:52 PM
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Suggest silly names to a person about whom you know nothing.


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102: Whatever. I'd rather see originality.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:52 PM
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"Knight Awl"?


Posted by: Unpronounceable Awl | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:53 PM
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This isn't the first time someone's gotten a new pseud as a result of asking around for one.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:53 PM
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Person, you need to provide your own pseud.

Aw(l), don't be such a killjoy.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:53 PM
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"Awl of Toads"


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:53 PM
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Awl Swell.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:54 PM
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"Trawl of Sorry"


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:54 PM
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Er, I meant "of Sorrow". Dammit.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:54 PM
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Golly, how can a suggestion of a diverting group activity to a bunch of people talking about boredom possibly be a bad thing?!

I'm liking Nite Awl, right now.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:55 PM
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113: True! Carry on! So who's this Awl person?


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:56 PM
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I like the "Unpronounceable" part. It reminds me of "The Unspeakable Thing" and also makes the whole thing pleasantly Goreyesque.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:56 PM
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Nite Awl is also pleasing.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:56 PM
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If I had to pick a new pseud, it'd probably be 'Antic Clay'.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:58 PM
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All Owls' Awls


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:58 PM
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I love U. Awl. I mean, as a pseudonym. I'm sure I'll grow to love U. Awl as a commenter, too, of course. Welcome!


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:58 PM
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If I had to pick a new pseud, it'd probably be 'Antic Clay'.

Antic clay, antic flesh, our heritage from Adam's animal nature!


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 4:59 PM
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Browse other peoples librarything. Those of Cosma, Helpychalk or Teo are good.


Posted by: Tiny Hermaphrodite | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 5:00 PM
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124: Thanks! I'll stick with this for the time being, then.


Posted by: Unpronounceable Awl | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 5:00 PM
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You can all go back to being bored now!


Posted by: Unpronounceable Awl | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 5:02 PM
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You bastard.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 5:02 PM
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Set up surveillance. Picket a church. Hit on the crippled.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 5:03 PM
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Do your taxes, Stanley.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 5:05 PM
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Are you the Kansas or Massachusetts Euwal?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 5:05 PM
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Sousveill the paves from the plage!


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 5:07 PM
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Almanzo hooked up with teenaged Mary, because teenaged Laura wouldn't go all the way.


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 5:07 PM
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My hilarious comment disappeared. Let me try again.

Almanzo hooked up with teenaged Mary, because teenaged Laura wouldn't go all the way.

No, it was that snooty Nelly from town.


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132: Now you're just trying to tempt me into taking "Euvrard". But I stand firm.


Posted by: Unpronounceable Awl | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 5:09 PM
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Ireneo Funes.

Simonides, the inventor of mnemonics.

Solomon Sherashevsky


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 5:09 PM
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Make a pie and call someone cute to come over and eat it.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 5:10 PM
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Euwal Tide Cheer


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 5:12 PM
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Ride the rails. Dodge the railroad bulls. Set up a consultancy.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 5:13 PM
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Unfogged dream last night: Virtually everybody who comments was now a main page poster. Except me. Sigh.


Posted by: minneapolitan | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 5:16 PM
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Make a pie and call someone cute to come over and eat it.

This doesn't work.


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142:
Make a pie and call someone cute with prodigious appetites to come over and eat it.
How 'bout now?


Posted by: minneapolitan | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 5:23 PM
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Become an economist. Ignore reality.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 5:23 PM
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You have to interweave the lattice, neb.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 5:23 PM
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Like the army in Oz: thirty officers and one private.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 5:24 PM
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Persist in never having made a lattice-top pie.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 5:24 PM
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Pie seduction doesn't work, are you kidding? Half of humanity doesn't like pie. Muffins, now.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 5:27 PM
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Awl Fucked Up


Posted by: PerfectlyGoddamnDelightful | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 5:28 PM
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Watched this This Uber-Indie last night, which is partly about misogyny and Buddhism.

buddhism is the only solution to misogyny(andry). Only when you have transcended your desires can you truly cease to blame the opposite sex for not magically fulfilling them.


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I was just saying to my two sisters (the "Fuck off the Pounds" sisters) that it was a lot more fun then pretending to be an adult than it ever was being an adult.

surely you tried sex, drugs, and exotic travel? You must have had a very nice childhood, anyway.

150 was me.


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||

Here's something to do!

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Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 5:38 PM
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Muffins, now.

Are you out of your gourd?


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 5:42 PM
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I like pie.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 5:45 PM
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I like pie. Businessmen like pie. Movie producers like pie. Who doesn't like pie, who knows of it?


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 5:47 PM
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I don't really like it that much. With certain exceptions.


Posted by: Cecily | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 5:49 PM
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Thumbs up to pie. Thumbs down to muffins.

Unless "muffin" is slang referring to a part of a woman's body. Then I like it. But even then, "pie" is better.


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the exceptions being varieties that include rhubarb, mainly.

Or meat.


Posted by: Cecily | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 5:50 PM
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Awl of Me


Posted by: Meg Omega | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 5:50 PM
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No, no, I prefer muffins on the whole. Blueberry or zucchini or a nice poppy seed. Much less trouble.


Posted by: Cecily | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 5:51 PM
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I'm not crazy about pie. I like meat pies, though.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 5:51 PM
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mmmm, rhubarb.

People must have been bored all the time before the Internet came along. Now, I can't imagine being bored.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 5:53 PM
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yesterday a friend and I made cookies. Except we didn't have enough butter, and are very lazy people, so we had to look for alternatives. Then, since there was one using olive oil (Olive Oil and Rosemary Cookies) on the internet, we made them.

These are some weird cookies, people. The recipe includes the advice "if the mixture is stiff, add a little more wine" which we found to be applicable to many aspects of the day.


Posted by: Cecily | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 5:55 PM
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Are they good?


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 5:58 PM
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I bet they're good.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 6:02 PM
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164- yeah? I think so? they're just... weird. I like them. They are not very much like what I think "cookie" means though.

Also they're kind of lumpy and purple. Extremely weird looking which probably makes me think they taste weirder than they do.

Overall I am a fan though although I think if I made them again I would put more black pepper in the mixture, and maybe serve them with cheese of some sort.


Posted by: Cecily | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 6:03 PM
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though, though, although.


Posted by: Cecily | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 6:03 PM
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now it is time to go drink beer on a porch. I will see what the neighborhood thinks of these purple lumpy cookies.


Posted by: Cecily | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 6:04 PM
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Olive oil, rosemary, and wine are good ingredients. If everything else is a neutral medium the food will be good.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 6:08 PM
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Well. I read, ok skimmed an entire book since this thread began. Book is about memory and time, starting with "infantile amnesia" and penultimately concluding with Alzheimers.

The last chapter ends with an extended discussion of This Vanitas
The Bailly who painted it is in the oval in the center, according to the dated signature.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 6:10 PM
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166: yeah, they're a savory, not a sweet. The urge to make cookies comes from the desire for sweets.

They sound like an appetizer at a fancy Italian restaurant.


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162: Seriously. I can read about incan knot language or opposition to primogeniture any time I like. Kids today don't know from boredom.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 6:11 PM
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I made pine nut/rosemary shortbread as part of my Christmas cookie festival. They were incredibly yummy, but they had like 2 sticks of butter in them, which sort of guarantees yumminess.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 6:11 PM
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172: 162 was actually meant ironically, in reference to the fascinating rhubarb pie related discussion, but rereading it I can see that the wit was so dry that it vanished completely.


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86: Usufruct


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 6:22 PM
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I will see what the neighborhood thinks of these purple lumpy cookies.

Wins the thread.

As for you you "muffins, what?" people, there's a whole wide world out there.


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30: Were Almanzo and Laura teenagers at the same time? I thought he robbed the cradle.

163: Whiskey also works against stiffness.

I actually disliked my last summer of leisure, because it wasn't exactly by choice and all my friends were making money, leaving me behind.


Posted by: Frostbite | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 6:28 PM
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Muffins are ok, but they're no pie.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 6:34 PM
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I'm not going to get into a pie fight.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 6:36 PM
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Were Almanzo and Laura teenagers at the same time? I thought he robbed the cradle.

Well, that will just make it even skeevier when he sleeps with Mary because Laura won't put out.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 6:36 PM
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Everyone knows you shouldn't bring a muffin to a pie fight.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 6:37 PM
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As for you you "muffins, what?" people, there's a whole wide world out there.

You're one to talk, pie-denier.

(Parsimon's secret identity revealed!)


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 6:40 PM
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I recently learned that Spanish speakers pronounce pi like "pee". I admit this news brought me greater delight than what was probably apt.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 6:40 PM
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Alright, look, half the time pies are gooey, half the time they're made with way too much white sugar. Dislike the white sugar. I tend to steer away from these things. I'm thinking mostly of fruit pies here. I do like, say, key lime pie and other more citrus-y pies, which tend to stay away from the goo.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 6:42 PM
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So do speakers of modern greek.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 6:42 PM
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There is nothing wrong with goo!


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183: When I was very little and in Montréal, I almost died of glee when my question about whether a bathroom stall was occupied was answered with "Oui oui!"


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 6:44 PM
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The link in 182 is fantastic.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 6:45 PM
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U. Awl, come back now. You hear.

I thought ? (Help A Brother Out) was a good start. ?(HABO) or even the long form should be fine. If band names can be very short sentences then commenters' certainly can.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 6:59 PM
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73 is great.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 7:01 PM
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Parsimon, if you enjoyed A Supposedly Fun Thing I'll Never Do Again the next obvious (but very much recommended) choice is Consider the Lobster which also happens to contain "Authority and American Usage," one of my all-time favorite essays on teaching and writing.

A well-written essay is incredibly satisfying. My suggestion for boredom - spend an afternoon randomly reading essays from Joan Didion's collected works.

Or, set out a bag. Obtain cat. Watch and be amused endlessly. (I'm not saying this is how I spent my afternoon, but it is a possibility).


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the neighborhood doesn't really like the purple lumpy cookies. they were pretty polite but I can see a number of half-eaten remnants stashed in unobtrusive areas of the porch.


Posted by: Cecily | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 7:14 PM
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Or, set out a bag. Obtain cat. Skin. Repeat.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 7:15 PM
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Becks' brother's problem is not that he's bored, but that he's lonely, but saying "I'm lonely" is instant social death (unless you are a hot woman leaving a drunken booty-call voice mail, of course). So "I'm bored" is a euphemism.


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191: Okay, will do. On the Lobster.

Cecily: neighborhood's reaction is a good test, though! Sometimes you can slide these unusual things past people, and they like them despite themselves. I find it sort of fascinating. I brought a kale salad (liberally tossed with olive oil, herbs, and fresh-grated parmesan, plus normal salad-looking ingredients) to a Thanksgiving of people who were otherwise used to iceberg lettuce, and they were actually enthusiastic about it, to my surprise.


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I am bored with my work very often now. Everything routine that comes in I pass along to somebody else. This makes my boredom worse. It's a real problem to decide whether it's more boring to do something boring than to pass along everything boring that comes in to somebody else and then have nothing to do at all.

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(I'm not saying this is how I spent my afternoon

Too late - the cat's already out of the, uh, never mind.


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194 is very likely true.

One of the things about all of our crazy suggestions for relieving boredom is that they can all be solitary, and some are positively anti-social.

Learning to be alone is important for avoiding boredom.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 7:33 PM
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Close the barn door after the horse leaves!


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196: Being bored because you are trapped in a task that is not stimulating is different than being bored because you don't know what to do with yourself. There should be different words for the two situations. I feel the former occasionally, but I haven't felt the latter for decades.

Also, both feelings are different than full-blown anhedonia.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 7:37 PM
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Read essays so that you will be able to see further by standing on the shoulders of the giant that goes with you wherever you go!


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 7:38 PM
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201: Nay. Read essays so you can remember who you are.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 7:45 PM
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Or, set out a bag. Obtain cat. The cat's in the bag and the bag's in the river.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 7:46 PM
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Insist on yourself! Never imitate! Become a transparent eyeball!


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Now you sound silly, eb.

I meant that about remembering who you are; at least, that's what the DFW is doing for me. Other writers do it as well. It's a good lesson, in any case, a good cheerful look in the face that I'm obviously welcoming. The overall thought is: pay attention! You know you're becoming downtrodden by all this crap, but pay attention, dearheart. I welcome it.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 8:03 PM
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Now you sound silly, eb.

Mix together quotations from Emerson's essays! Reformulate some of them with other famous quotations! Cross-post to standpipe's (other) blog!


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Being bored because you are trapped in a task that is not stimulating is different

I'm sorry;the saffron monk spending all day perfectly raking the rock garden remains in control of himself.

This, with no offense, is I think the class snobbery of the intellectually employed. They think adding the side panel to the truck on the line, 20 times a day for thirty years, is either impossible or contemptible:they cannot appreciate of the intellectual achievement involved in overcoming one's self, even after reading about Levin and the scything.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 8:13 PM
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Being bored because you are trapped in a task that is not stimulating is different

Tell me about it. I am so fucking bored with this thing.


Posted by: Endstage dissertator. | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 8:16 PM
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206: Emerson, Ralph Waldo?

I fall down.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 8:16 PM
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Browse other peoples librarything. Those of Cosma, Helpychalk or Teo are good.

Glad to hear my library is entertaining. I just read a chapter in this book on Hopi attitudes toward mortuary studies. They're not fans.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 8:16 PM
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I appear to be the only person on LibraryThing who owns that book.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 8:20 PM
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I guess I apologize for 207, because everyone encounters and overcomes repetition and drudgery at work and at home.

But that just makes 200 even more perplexing.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 8:21 PM
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John Cage said, "If something is boring after two minutes, try it for four. If still boring, then eight. Then sixteen. Then thirty-two. Eventually one discovers that it is not boring at all." He's right: there's a certain kind of unboring boredom that's fascinating, engrossing, transcendent, and downright sexy. And then there's the other kind of boring: let's call it boring boring. Boring boring is a client meeting; boring boring is having to endure someone's self-indulgent poetry reading; boring boring is watching a toddler for an afternoon; boring boring is the seder at Aunt Fanny's. Boring boring is being somewhere we don't want to be; boring boring is doing something we don't want to do.

Posted by: Kenneth Goldsmith | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 8:21 PM
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209 is to say that I know Ralph Waldo Emerson's writings pretty well, so whatever you're saying about mixing together quotations from him is looked at with a complete question mark unless you know what you're talking about.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 8:21 PM
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213: Requires acknowledgement this Unfogged post by the Beninator.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 8:29 PM
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Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 8:30 PM
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213: I see you John Cage. Shakin' that ass.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 8:30 PM
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JPpwned. Cusses.


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naw, 204 is good. It's all transcendentalist types.

I read essays so I can forget about who I am and replace my own inner monologue with the inner monologue of a smarter, more eloquent person.

Reading is escapism, big time. Except for the dry econ reading that I am avoiding doing.


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boring boring is watching a toddler for an afternoon

I beg to differ. Toddlers are great fun. I can see not wanting to watch one every afternoon all year long every year until they're no lobger toddlers.

Emerson says: Do your own thing. But that' sort of the crux of the problem. What if I have no idea what my thing is?


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 8:40 PM
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214: Does this help?


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221: If it weren't a link to a google results page showing a shitload of things I don't have time or inclination to read, it might be.

At 220.last, John Emerson says "Emerson says: Do your own thing." No. That's not what "self-reliance" is about.

Sorry, I actually take readings of R.W. Emerson seriously, and find myself not amused by his misappropriation, it would seem. I'm also off for the night.


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I give up. Comments 201 and 204 were, literally, almost entirely short quotations from Self Reliance and Nature*, with a bit of that Newton (I think) quote about shoulders of giants. That is all, no deeper meaning, no mystery. The google results show these to have been quotes.

*Exclamation points not in original.


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AWB and I went to hear some music a few weeks ago, and the final piece turned out to be a truncated version of Satie's Vexations performed on ten toy pianos. The whole piece takes more than 24 hours to perform, I think; this version was done faster than it should have been, and the leader of the ensemble announced they would play for one hour exactly. I got bored after twenty minutes and dragged AWB out of there ten or fifteen minutes later. It was the kind of thing that would have been fascinating if they'd planned to play for at least six hours, but one hour was not enough; it wasn't worth it to stay for the whole thing.

I did a meditation retreat last summer where I spent the first three days just paying attention to my breath at the entrance to my nose, 12+ hours a day. This Vexations performance was much more boring, with less promise of a payoff.


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Parsimony, you're being extraordinarily grumpy and annoying. "Do your own thing" is also a direct quotation from Emerson, and it's public domain and not licensed exclusively to you.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 8:55 PM
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parsimon has been kind of hilariously anti-fun in this thread. I like it!


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The transparent eyeball thing is one of the most famous quotes from RW Emerson. There was even a famous contemporary caricature of a transparent eyeball wandering around on stick legs.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 9:01 PM
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I've been kind of anti-fun in this thread.

This is very well done:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkJdEFf_Qg4


Posted by: David Weman | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 9:02 PM
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Argh. Quoting Emerson out of context is not a good idea, at all.

I admit to grumpy. 'night all.


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Well, 8 was at least not anti-fun.


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I'm tempted to paste in the entire text of an Emerson essay + Emerson's entire life and the times in which he lived, but this comment box is too small to contain it.*

*Apologies to fans of Fermat for misappropriating his words.


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Also.


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Misappropriating Fermat's words out of context is deprecated.


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I think parsimon means you can only quote Emerson if you're currently residing in 1840s America.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 9:12 PM
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And the Vexations mention requires linking to yet another w-lfs-nator post.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 9:13 PM
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if you're currently residing in 1840s America.

Sometimes I feel this way.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 9:15 PM
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On an extended visit to Aunt Bellum's place?


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 9:23 PM
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Just her library.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 9:24 PM
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ToS posting as John Emerson's name backwards is no good -- he should pick an entirely new nick if he's going to try to start over as a good little Unfogged commenter. I thought Perezoso, which he's been using on other sites, was good.


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I always thought the transparent eyeball thing was Melville, but he was spoofing Emerson.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 9:27 PM
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Pianoless Vexations.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 9:28 PM
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I always thought the transparent eyeball thing was Melville, but he was spoofing Emerson.

Melville had a lot of experience trolling deep waters.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 9:30 PM
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If I have trolled deeper than others it's because I was spoofing a master.


Posted by: Herman Melville | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 9:38 PM
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228: There was even a famous contemporary caricature of a transparent eyeball wandering around on stick legs.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 9:43 PM
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For the record, I sort of like RW Emerson but he's not a favorite and I have no proprietorial interest. And [ta-dum] we are indeed relatives, but the lines diverged in England about 1620 or so, so the relationship is distant indeed.

Nonetheless, all y'all transparent eyeballs should do your own thing.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 9:44 PM
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A google image search for "eyeball on legs" is pretty darn mind-warping.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 9:47 PM
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I guess it's time to see if I can find my old Residents records. I hope Parsimon won't mind.


Posted by: ari | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 9:56 PM
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Eb is a very clever fellow, you know.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 9:57 PM
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Emerson is the reason we get stuff like 15.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 10:36 PM
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The Emerson of primates.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 10:47 PM
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19: Let me explain this, in terms even a Ph.D. mathematician can understand.

That blog is so weird.


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I don't get it.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 10:58 PM
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253: I'll say. I subscribed, god knows why. Ooh, look at the pretty equations I can't display unless I install a bunch of fonts! Read the sentences full of words I don't understand!


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255: It's all much simpler when you realize that you must love category theory with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 04- 5-09 11:03 PM
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I got sucked in by a post about applications of category theory to machine learning. It seemed like it made so much sense!

I was a fool.


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hey, i'm reading larry niven novels. I'm quite glad for torrents, because being too poor to afford all the books i'm reading while unemployed would sure suck.

cannabis or adderall help with being bored, although in completely different ways.


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EVER TO CONFESS YOU'RE BORED MEANS YOU HAVE NO INNER RESOURCES.


Posted by: OPINIONATED JOHN BERRYMAN'S MOM | Link to this comment | 04- 6-09 7:23 AM
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What does this awl mean?


Posted by: minneapolitan | Link to this comment | 04- 6-09 7:54 AM
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It augers a great movement in our realm, a piercing hole through which wisdom will shine upon us.


Posted by: W. Breeze | Link to this comment | 04- 6-09 8:02 AM
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This is a pretty good article about boredom.



Posted by: lemmy caution | Link to this comment | 04- 6-09 11:59 AM
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http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=bored--find-something-to-live-for


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At 220.last, John Emerson says "Emerson says: Do your own thing." No. That's not what "self-reliance" is about.

Parsimon is Jamie Lee Curtis:

Now let me correct you on a couple of things, OK? Aristotle was not Belgian. The central message of Buddhism is not "Every man for himself." And the London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes, Otto. I looked them up.


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