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Cavs need to step it up. That was a pretty impressive 3 by Lebron, though.


Posted by: Matt F | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 10:08 PM
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Also, my policy of only really paying attention to the last 10 minute or so of basketball games continues to pay off.


Posted by: Matt F | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 10:09 PM
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Good hockey, too. Still don't think the Cavs have the supporting cast.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 10:18 PM
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Where can I see this supposedly legendary shot on the YouTubes?


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 10:19 PM
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I don't think anything is bringing SCMT back.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 10:19 PM
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That was one exciting hockey game.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 10:20 PM
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5 - Funny you should mention. I just emailed him yesterday. Told hijm to go beat up this impostor.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 10:21 PM
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nba.com has video.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 10:23 PM
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7: does that really even count as an imposter? More of a clueless co-location, I'd think.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 10:23 PM
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So can I use this thread to complain about twitter's @replies policy change? Now I have to sign up to follow more people and I don't want to.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 10:24 PM
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There's nothing like it in living memory for Cleveland sports fans. The whole Cleveland experience is about having things like that done to you.

In football, it's Kosar falling to Elway or Marino; or Sipe throwing the game-losing pick when Cockroft might have kicked the game-winning field goal. In baseball, it's Tony Fernandez bobbling a slow roller in Game 7. In basketball, it's fucking Michael Jordan.

I mean, sure, there was Jim Brown and Gary Collins and the 1964 NFL title, but that was a foregone conclusion and a blowout. Cleveland makes a lot of highlight reels, but it's never Cleveland highlight reels.



Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 10:26 PM
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So can I use this thread to complain about twitter's @replies policy change?

No, but thank's for asking.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 10:28 PM
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Too late, I already did.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 10:31 PM
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Oh, and I forgot to mention 1972, when the Browns were leading 14-13 in the fourth quarter in a playoff game in a season that history only remembers as the Dolphins' perfect season.

Paul Warfield - that is, former Cleveland Browns great, Paul Warfield - caught key passes for the Dolphins in the winning drive.

Some people wonder how ancient hatreds are kept alive over generations. I do not wonder about this.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 10:41 PM
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Put Your Hands Up For Detroit !


Posted by: E | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 10:42 PM
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Also, Willie Mays' catch. 111-43 and Cleveland was still swept.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 10:43 PM
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11:but that was a foregone conclusion

Hardly, with the Colts being heavy favorites coming in*. And a nice win, but barely pulling to 1-1 in the Conference finals hardly exorcises any Cleveland demons. There have been some great wins in prelim games; the game before "the Drive", for instance was a semi-miraculous win against the Jets.

*Best Cleveland championship drama (and one of best ever in NFL) was 1950, Browns first year in NFL after dominating the AAFC and they beat the LA Rams (who had left Cleveland 5 years earlier) 30-28 on a Lou Groza field goal.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 10:43 PM
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17: Me.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 10:46 PM
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Ooh, sports! I claim Cleveland heritage, so I'll be excited about whatever it is that happened. (Can you tell I know nothing?)*

And that I'm totally Becks style?


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 10:49 PM
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And also also, Cleveland has already been to the finals once. It did not go well. Still, an exciting game is nothing to scoff at, given how many blowouts I end up watching.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 10:51 PM
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You can't be Becks style if you type every word correctly. I know the actors' advice linked some time ago said that if you're drunk, don't go over the top in drunkenness, go for very deliberate motions instead, but since we can't see you type, good spelling just doesn't cut it.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 10:53 PM
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21: what, she totally lost track of the asterisk. Hammered.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 10:56 PM
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I can't help it! I type way better when I'm drunk...mostly because I get paranoid about making mistakes.

This is not the first time I've been accused of not possibly being drunk on the basis of solid typing.

And Sifu is clearly right. Hammered.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 10:58 PM
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That might be Parenthetical-style.

Is it obvious that I'm avoiding packing for flying out tomorrow?


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 10:58 PM
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Losing track of an asterisk is mildly Becks-style, but soup is the one that's hammered, with that crazy apostrophe mess in 12.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 10:59 PM
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Most folks consider 1980 to be a mere footnote in the awfulness of Cleveland sports history, but here's Red Right 88 in 1980.

In the three football defeats to Denver, the Browns wouldn't have had a prayer in the Super Bowl. But the Browns would have won it all had Sipe merely tossed that ball incomplete and Cockroft made the kick.

eb, I actually don't count the San Antonio wipeout as part of Cleveland sports ignominy, given that the Cavs were overachievers who got crushed in the finals.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 10:59 PM
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eb, I actually don't count the San Antonio wipeout as part of Cleveland sports ignominy, given that the Cavs were overachievers who got crushed in the finals.

I wasn't either. I was putting that on the side of "this game wasn't that meaningful, because there's a long way to go in the playoffs and it's not like the series is over or they haven't been here."


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:01 PM
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Pack, eb, pack!

Packing is great fun. You can do it. Plus, I suspect that means you'll be on Pacific time once you've flown, which is clearly what you've been wishing for for quite some time!


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:01 PM
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I'm not Becks-style, but this evening's dessert has me pretty fucked up. Like, wide-eyed at the rave asking strangers if my heart will burst fucked up. Goddamn hipster chefs trying to kill me.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:03 PM
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26: pf, you and I are about 180 degrees on these football assessments. 1980-81 was only a divisional playoff and in my view Browns would not have handled Chargers and Fouts in AFC Championship game. The first Cleveland loss to Denver, Browns would have beaten Redskins, at least Dixon and Minnefield certainly would not have given up 5 TDs in one periond to Doug Williams like the woeful Broncos secondary ...


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:05 PM
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Pork-flavored ice cream, chocolate, and bacon? Wow.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:05 PM
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Yeah, yeah, I'm packing. I don't leave until the afternoon, but I want to be able to do something during the day.

you'll be on Pacific time

Yes. And for at least a few years now.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:10 PM
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Obama should have one of those just so the wingers could go berserk over, Chocolate chip cookie made with stone-milled Taza organic Oaxacan-style chocolate . But the lack of verifed provenance for the caramel sauce is disappointing.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:12 PM
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but soup is the one that's hammered

Hey now, only a bottle of wine a 1/3 of a bottle of Macallan, so far.

I can fuck up punctuation without any help atall


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:13 PM
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33: One makes caramel. I did it just yesterday. Or do you mean where the sugar came from?


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:14 PM
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only a bottle of wine a 1/3 of a bottle of Macallan, so far.

Hmm, soup's far more Beck's style than I am, no matter what he claims. That, or I'm an easy drunk.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:15 PM
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33: I'm sure it's local, organic butter and fair trade sugar. It's that kind of place.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:15 PM
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35: Where everything came from.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:16 PM
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36 is prolly true. i have no stomach for alcohol anymore. onto the 1792 now, though, for a nightcap.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:18 PM
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What makes chocolate Oaxacan-style, anyway?

When my parents went to Oaxaca they said the food there was pretty much like Mexican food elsewhere except that it was all covered in chocolate. Nothing about the characteristics of the chocolate itself, though.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:19 PM
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What makes chocolate Oaxacan-style, anyway?


The cinnamon?


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:21 PM
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They don't put cinnamon in it elsewhere?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:22 PM
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40: apparently the use of a stone mill.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:23 PM
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well, not lots of places. But probably not jus Oaxaca-style either. The whole thing confuses me too, to be honest. My mental association though is strong, with cinnamon (the chocolate)


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:24 PM
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How diligent should one be in cutting up old receipts? I don't have a shredder.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:25 PM
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God, I love google.

What makes chocolate Oaxacan-style, anyway?

The reason we've been fascinated by Oaxacan chocolate is that is it minimally processed and not conched, and so it would seem to be the truest way to experience the essence -- and, eventually, the people and terrior -- of chocolate.

From some random blog.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:26 PM
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huh. fucking artisinal chocolate now, hand ground by stone mill. swipple with a side of swipple topped by swipple


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:26 PM
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pf, you and I are about 180 degrees on these football assessments.

Upon reflection, I think you're flat-out right about the 1964 Browns vs. Unitas, and I will concede that reasonable people might disagree about the Browns vs. Fouts, especially given that the game would have been in San Diego. But the Dogs got smoked by Elway, and even if they wouldn't have been crushed by the 'Skins, odds are they still would have lost.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:26 PM
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Um, pretend that I put quotes around that, and that I wasn't pawned.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:27 PM
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Minimally processed, and then at a key stage, you add a dash of smug:

In 2005, Taza cofounder Alex Whitmore traveled to Oaxaca to steep himself in the history and culture of Mexico. There, he learned about the pre-Columbian ritual of "xocolātl" in Latin America, and the customs that surrounded the transformation of cacao into a drink. Having grown up eating European-style chocolate candy, Alex was surprised and inspired by the simplicity of the Oaxacan treatment of chocolate. He was compelled by the minimal processing and traditional method of stone grinding the beans... so much so that he was moved to start a business dedicated to crafting artisan, Mexican-style chocolate in the United States.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:27 PM
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49: also the random blog you found is that of the restaurant that made the dessert I linked to. Dunno if that counts at pwnage exactly, though.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:28 PM
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pawned

Becks-style confirmed!


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:29 PM
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51: It was the first link for Oaxacan style chocolate that came up. Strange. Or perhaps not.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:31 PM
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and, eventually, the people and terrior -- of chocolate.


prolly best way to experience people *and* terrior is to bury one in it.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:31 PM
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51: Standpiped or pawned, which is worse? Discuss.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:31 PM
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53: I assumed "some random blog" was an artisinally subtle allusion.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:34 PM
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In the war on terroir, pain chocolate is not considered torture.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:34 PM
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Mmm, pawnage.

I really meant for 25 to be low-hanging fruit, but I've had a few glass:s as well.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:34 PM
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55, 56: hah!

I'm takin' it back from Standpipe's blog!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:35 PM
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becks style is tautologically artisinal


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:35 PM
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becks style is tautologically artisinal


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:35 PM
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%*&*&#$@, browser update. now i can't tell when the ^(^&#(&# button was actually pressed.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:36 PM
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Dammit we have to misspell artisinal now, too? I blame Will Ferrel.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:37 PM
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Artisanal, dude.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:38 PM
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Now I have an unfulfillable cinnamon craving.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:39 PM
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59: The rare double reverse inward Standpipe tuck. The Moldavan judge is unimpressed, however.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:39 PM
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Dammit we have to misspell artisinal now, too?

No, we hav to misspell every third word or so. Which happens to be artisanal


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:39 PM
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Now I have an unfulfillable cinnamon craving.

Nobody to blame but yourself.

I've got some mexican hot chocolate here somewhere, if that helps.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:40 PM
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63,64: It was a meme, goddammit!!


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:41 PM
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and more bourbon


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:41 PM
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69: what this world needs is more memes.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:42 PM
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I think I hsould give up working on this proposal and go to bed


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:45 PM
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Cinammon cravings.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:45 PM
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70 to 71 and 72.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:47 PM
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Oh! Totally fulfillable after all! Yay.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:47 PM
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Never mix memes and bourbon.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:48 PM
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46: That blog refers to Oaxaca as "the cradle of traditional chocolate" with a link to an Erowid article (!) that says that "not much cacao is grown in Oaxaca these days--most of the beans are imported from Tabasco or Chiapas." I'm not so sure about the implication behind "these days"; my understanding is that Tabasco and Chiapas, along with the Pacific coast further south into Guatemala and El Salvador, has always been the heartland of cacao production.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:48 PM
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74: I'm not sure the NIH will buy it, but I'm willing to give it a shot


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:49 PM
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77: I'm not sure who in that chain of information you think would be trustable about anything. (Well, the blog people you can trust to make delicious food, in my experience, however ridiculous their discussion of it.)


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I'm not sure who in that chain of information you think would be trustable about anything.

No one, really, but I think it's useful to point these things out.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 05-22-09 11:55 PM
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All the flaws in Cleveland's offense, and in talent level beyond Lebron, are being shown yet again. But Lebron is ascending to that plane of greatness where he just might make up for all of that singlehandedly.

Turkoglu, Rashard Lewis, Dwight Howard, Mikael Pietrus...those Magic are really good. They just don't miss.

Cleveland makes a lot of highlight reels, but it's never Cleveland highlight reels.

Since Lebron came five years ago, it's been all Cleveland highlight reels. He just keeps topping himself.

I could have gone to this game, but the ticket was $400 and I said no...now I'm not sure I made the right decision.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 05-23-09 12:27 AM
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In 2005, Taza cofounder Alex Whitmore traveled to Oaxaca to steep himself in the history and culture of Mexico.

How long does it take to really steep oneself in the history and culture of Mexico? If he's already back, could he really be thoroughly steeped? I think he's probably just dampened with the history and culture of etc.


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 05-23-09 6:16 AM
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81: now I'm not sure I made the right decision.

Well, as pf and I demonstrated, those of us suffering from chronic PTSLD (Post-Traumatic Sports Loss Disorder) can have impaired cognitive function around all items sportish. (For instance when the Marlins merely tied the 7th game I turned it off and went up to bed. In retropsect a "wise" decision, but a telling one.)


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-23-09 7:33 AM
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those of us suffering from chronic PTSLD (Post-Traumatic Sports Loss Disorder)

Yo Storm - that's me. It's hard for me to watch any sports event that I care about all the way through. Too many disappointments over the years. The Net provides some succor as I can control my symptons by occasionally clicking on the box scores as the game proceeds to its (usually calamitous) end.


Posted by: bill | Link to this comment | 05-23-09 8:16 AM
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I could have gone to this game, but the ticket was $400 and I said no...now I'm not sure I made the right decision.

Rfts and I were at the dinner for lunch last week, and overheard two little old ladies at the table next door chatting about various things. Among the things discussed were a) scalpers are terrible human beings who ruin it for everyone and b) why the hell won't the Cavs management make it possible for good people like little old ladies at the diner to go see LeBron for less than $200? I was charmed.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 05-23-09 8:38 AM
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s/dinner/diner/


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|| Reagan, Alzheimer's, old people, etc.:

"What was that you played, a spade was it?" a partner asks Ms. Cummins.
"Yes, a spade," says Ms. Cummins, with some irritation. "It was a spade."
Later, the partner stares uncertainly at the cards on the table. "Is that ----"
"We played that trick already," Ms. Cummins says. "You're a trick behind."
Meanwhile, this has been done many times, but it still pisses me off:
Students of both races say that interracial friendships are common at Montgomery County High School. Black and white students also date one another, though often out of sight of judgmental parents. "Most of the students do want to have a prom together," says Terra Fountain, a white 18-year-old who graduated from Montgomery County High School last year and is now living with her black boyfriend. "But it's the white parents who say no. ... They're like, if you're going with the black people, I'm not going to pay for it."
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max
['Never, ever ends.']


Posted by: max | Link to this comment | 05-23-09 8:40 AM
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84: The Net provides some succor as I can control my symptons by occasionally clicking on the box scores as the game proceeds to its (usually calamitous) end.

Yes, I certainly do this. Last night I could not stay away from watching the very end of the Cleveland game (which was on track to be two last second daggers in a row at home against the Cavs), but I did not watch the second half up until that point as I tracked Orlando creeping up on them.

Here is a litany of my worst sports moments (a long list) with others chiming in in with theirs in the comments (and where "spyder" coined (to my knowledge) PTSLD in the first comment).


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Today's Oddly Worded Sentence from a Graduation Speech: "I encourage you all to be outliers."

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Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 05-23-09 9:48 AM
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Here is the shot .

Sports are about dramatic arcs, about narrative and story, and this game had it all. The arc of Lebron's career and development, the arc of the developing series, the arc of the particular game. All full of drama. And then beyond that, the narrative of Cleveland sports history and of the NBA itself, where Lebron is developing into the successor to the greats of the past.

I suspect he'll top this one before it's all over.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 05-23-09 10:03 AM
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The end of my poor job: http://www.mypoorjob.com


Posted by: bob | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 2:42 PM
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Hopefully the Magic can give the Western conference team a good fight (not literally).


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