Re: Everything's Connected: Law and Economics Division

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Dico, il mio ragazzo, dico


Posted by: Forno Livorno | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 3:49 PM
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Oven Leghorn? I think not.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 3:59 PM
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2 was me. I am told by a number of sources that "foghorn" in Italian is "sirena". That seems odd.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 4:00 PM
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Corno Livorno.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 4:01 PM
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Mmm, corno.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 4:02 PM
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Wikipedia has Leghorn chicken as an anglicization of "Ligurian," which sounds more plausible than Livorno?


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 4:04 PM
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5: Heh. On our recent weekend at the coast with friends, one of our friends brought her parents along. They were fine and fit right in, but her dad wore this shirt (which she had given to him) all weekend, which was kind of wrong.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 4:06 PM
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6: nuh uh.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 4:06 PM
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7: Speaking of which, I though Junipero easily made the best martini.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 4:07 PM
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9: interesting! I'll have to try that.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 4:08 PM
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Ligurian and Livorno are pretty close to each other geographically. I can see how it would be hard to determine just where that breed of chicken originated.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 4:09 PM
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10: Junipero definitely is great. But I heard a disturbing rumor (while I was looking for some rye from the same distillery) that they may stop distributing in our area soon. Oh noes!


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 4:10 PM
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Junipero definitely is great.

Tastes like chicken!


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 4:11 PM
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Inconsistent information on Wikipedia? Shocking!

Further Googling suggests Livorno was once known as Ligorno, probably from its location on the Ligurian Sea. The g->v shift seems weird to me, but maybe there's some lurking linguist to shed some light?


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 4:11 PM
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Okay, I'll let the rest of you play in my comment thread now.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 4:11 PM
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From the OED, Ligurian and Livorno refer to the same place -- Livorno is the current Italian form, and Ligurian is from the Latin.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 4:11 PM
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14: Well, linguists were once known as linvuists, so I don't see why it seems weird to you.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 4:12 PM
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Ah, unfovved.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 4:15 PM
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Foghorn Lovehorn is the more amorous Italian version of the cartoon.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 4:17 PM
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Foghat Leghorn is the more cliched blues-rock version.


Posted by: minneapolitan | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 4:19 PM
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Posted by: minneapolitan | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 4:24 PM
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I remember hearing long ago about one of the primary models for old Foghorn being Senator Claghorn.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 4:40 PM
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Senatore Clavorno!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 4:48 PM
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no one remembers this any more, since they became famous in the us, but foghat (being brits) actually pronounce their name "fuffett"


Posted by: tierce de lollardie | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 4:50 PM
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Foghorn Eggcorn is something I maybe misheard. Could you repeat that?


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 4:50 PM
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24: Just like it's spelled, innit?


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 4:55 PM
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Coase v. coase!


Posted by: adamhenne | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 5:20 PM
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Aside from not being a theorem, being tautological, and not supporting in any way the political conclusions about free markets that Coase's acolytes draw from it, the Coase Theorem is awesome. So is the rigorous discipline of law and economics. So is educational quality in law schools generally.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 5:43 PM
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Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 7:19 PM
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Thank you Jesus!

I am, in fact shackled to the computer this evening. Grades are due noon tomorrow.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 7:33 PM
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2: Oven Leghorn? I think not.

I think so, oh literal-minded one. Sounds better, and think furnace->hot air for forno. Translator's prerogative.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 7:33 PM
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22: one of the primary models for old Foghorn being Senator Claghorn.

Apparently not the initial model as the first FL was written before Claghorn debuted, but it seems that FL subsequently did pick up many of Claghorn's mannerisms.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 7:36 PM
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Leghorn puzzled me too when I first came across it in a translation of Braudel's "Mediterranean ..." I noodled out eventually that it was Livorno, but for the longest time couldn't figure out what city Ragusa was. Turns out it's Dubrovnik.


Posted by: Middle Aged Man | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 8:32 PM
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Last night AWB and I were watching some Looney Tunes on my roof with a few other people, and it was decided that Apo is filed in the same part of our brains as Foghorn Leghorn.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 9:41 PM
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34: eerily similar accents.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 9:43 PM
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Actually, Act Three of that episode of This American Life was a pretty funny piece on (1) the diversity of southern accents and how (2) hollywood totally fucks them up by (3) making everybody sound like Foghorn Leghorn.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-24-09 9:46 PM
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Does anyone actually pronounce "Leghorn" like Wikipedia says, "lɛgərn"?


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 05-25-09 12:20 AM
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31: I think Tweety's suggestion of Corno Livorno is better.

Naming a chicken "Forno" is like trying to save a runt pig's life by making a spiderweb above its sty that says "crispy".


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 05-25-09 4:19 PM
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37: I was wondering that too.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 05-25-09 4:49 PM
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Junipero definitely is great

The discussion of gin and tonics, a couple weeks ago, got me to go looking for gin.

While I don't have much to compare it to, I was very happy with the 209 gin that I ended up getting.

It has a very clean and smooth flavor which I like in alcohol, but is certainly not everyone's taste in gin.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 05-25-09 4:55 PM
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I don't know anything about gin, but the recent discussions thereof hereabouts have compelled me to note that "Junipero" is a very clever name for a gin produced in California.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 05-25-09 9:30 PM
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In fact it's called Junípero.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 05-25-09 9:54 PM
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Even better.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 05-25-09 10:05 PM
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In fact it's called Junípero.

Which is pronounced "lɛgərn".


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 05-26-09 9:52 PM
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