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The proper term of contrast with "old-fashioned" is "new-fangled", not "new-fashioned"! Jesus christ!


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 9:23 AM
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1: Why are you so old-fangled about usage, neb?


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 9:25 AM
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That essay, boring though it may be, is probably way better than the column it responds to.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 9:25 AM
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1 is more of a style claim than a usage claim.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 9:28 AM
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Still, the larger lesson I take from Joanna's essay is how thoroughly you can psyche yourself out of a goal before you've even begun.

Ain't it the truth?


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 9:42 AM
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I wish she hadn't had a modern love style "epiphany" of her own. I wish she had just said "I wanted to punch him for saying that his side, while not the whole truth, was emotionally truthful to _him_." Because that's how I felt!


Posted by: belle lettre | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 9:57 AM
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Off the record, having seen both "real story" sides of the Crap Email from a Dude feature at Jezebel (which I can no longer read, as it makes me so angry and negative), I can attest that the editors really take liberties in writing up the stories. I blame Nick Denton's pay-per-click model. They'll embellish the story to make the protagonists more sympathetic and the dudes more douchey, and mischaracterize the events even if you supply the truth. So, in this era of "let me tell you my story, which isn't true but contains 'emotional truths'", I'm not surprised to see "the other side" come out as "that's not what happened!"


Posted by: belle lettre | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 10:00 AM
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Oh oops, my comment number 6 was in response to this column.


Posted by: belle lettre | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 10:01 AM
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I blame Nick Denton's pay-per-click model.

No longer how they get paid.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 10:01 AM
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I blame Linda Hirshman for the source of my error.


Posted by: belle lettre | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 10:08 AM
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So what is their excuse for being sensationalizing, deceitful dillweeds?


Posted by: Amber | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 10:09 AM
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So, now stalking and being stalked are as boring as everything else? Hmph.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 10:11 AM
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11: I don't know. This is why I leechblocked it 24/7, and took out the ability to change the controls. It would mess up my Year of Reducing Negativity. Like I couldn't read that article saying "can we stop shaming those who use the withdrawal method" article linked to here>.


Posted by: belle lettre | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 10:17 AM
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This is why I leechblocked it 24/7, and took out the ability to change the controls.

Well, you could still use another firefox profile.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 10:40 AM
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7: They'll embellish the story to make the protagonists more sympathetic and the dudes more douchey, and mischaracterize the events even if you supply the truth.
11: So what is their excuse for being sensationalizing, deceitful dillweeds?

'Soap opera.'

max
['Ad traffic.']


Posted by: max | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 10:44 AM
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There was a reasonable discussion of this (Googling, ex'es, etc.) here on the Mineshaft about three years ago...


Posted by: arthegall | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 10:45 AM
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"on" s/b "at". Or maybe "on" was right in the first place, who knows.

I miss Ogged.


Posted by: arthegall | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 10:49 AM
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16-17: I should think "in" would be the obvious favorite.


Posted by: Rah | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 10:58 AM
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16: And at other times too.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 10:59 AM
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10: I found that Linda Hirshmann essay absolutely fascinating, it's getting to some very deep issues with feminism and liberal individualism in general. This is part of an ongoing back and forth between Jezebel and Hirshmann about feminist responses to male abuse of women.

The Jezebel people are a big hot mess, but Hirshmann has the liberal humanist flaw of simply not acknowledging or understanding that the darker, sadomasochistic side of human nature is just as fundamental as the cool autonomous prudent side. Freud is a better guide to human nature than JS Mill.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 11:01 AM
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"Freud is a better guide to human nature than JS Mill."

Maybe, but telling your wife she's just got penis envy is a really bad argument.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 11:03 AM
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Better, or as good? You did just say "just as fundamental".


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 11:03 AM
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OK, not better. There's a lot of BS in Freud. But the general perspective that people are a little crust of conscious rationality floating on top of a sea of unacknowleged irrational desires.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 11:08 AM
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Maybe, but telling your wife she's just got penis envy is a really bad argument.

Though perhaps preferable to her saying the same to you.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 11:11 AM
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24: True, buy having a son has convinced me that the whole Oedipus complex thing wasn't pulled out of thin air. He actively tries to push me out of family activities.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 11:13 AM
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"True, but", not "True, buy". Sorry.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 11:14 AM
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Never have children, people.


Posted by: inaccessible island rail | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 11:15 AM
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I really miss having a baby around. Not that I don't like the toddler.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 11:17 AM
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25: You and Gonerill should form a support group for the oedipally threatened.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 11:17 AM
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6, 8: wow, now that's a real story -- having your ex write one of those clasically prick-ish asinine Modern Love columns. What a jerk. The problem with the one Almeida linked to is that it was about an unusually bland and inoffensive ML.

The thing with ML is that it's written by these mediocre writers who are and always will be obscure failures. So the excuse that "I was an asshole for Art!" is revealed in all its shallowness. I mean, that excuse works for Pound, Picasso, etc. but almost no one else.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 11:32 AM
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Picasso maybe, but Pound went over to the fascists during the war. I'm not certain anyone could write a good enough poem to cover that.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 11:34 AM
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The link in 8 is the one I referred to in 19.

See?

It's acknowledged at the bottom of the republished version. I hope she got paid this time.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 11:38 AM
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32: I was gonna say! I was quite confused while reading the link in 8, thinking I have certainly read this before but it claims to have been published last week. Until the very end that is.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 11:45 AM
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Pound went over to the fascists during the war. I'm not certain anyone could write a good enough poem to cover that.

e e cummings, who had been a prisoner of war in WW I, defended him, which is good enough for me.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 1:43 PM
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I guess this is what happens when you omit links.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 5:02 PM
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You know, both my current boyfriend and my last boyfriend and the guy I dated before that were quite forthright about googling me when we met (it probably helps that two of these people have worked at google); my current boyfriend so easily assumed that I had done my google due diligence on him that he was truly surprised when I had missed an amusing easter egg on his father's homepage. I think I would be offended if I went on a date with someone and they hadn't googled me.


Posted by: Ile | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 9:55 PM
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Huh. I just googled myself, and the first and second results were my profiles on LinkedIn and Facebook respectively. The results after those are the ones that have been coming up for years, but those two are new.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 10:33 PM
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Wow. I haven't Googled myself in a while. Google no longer finds my current website (at least in the first few pages of results), but does find my website at my previous institution. And it brings up Facebook and LinkedIn profiles for other people with my name. What a mess. Surely anyone Googling my name is looking for me, right?


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 10:42 PM
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Since I can't be googled, I don't want to google acquaintances with less generic names, since that would be using an asymmetric advantage I have.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 10:46 PM
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Surely anyone Googling my name is looking for me, right?

Depends who those other people with Facebook and LinkedIn profiles are, I guess.

My name is sufficiently odd that it's extremely unlikely there's anyone else out there with the same name, so anyone googling it is presumably looking for me. This could be either good or bad, I suppose, but none of the results at this point are things I wouldn't want people to see, so I'm fine with it.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 10:50 PM
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Since I can't be googled,

Wait, what? Some sort of magic unicorn bless you or something?


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 10:50 PM
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Ned's real name is extremely common, so it returns massive numbers of google hits, none of which refer to him.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 10:54 PM
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Depends who those other people with Facebook and LinkedIn profiles are, I guess.

Google used to find my papers and talks pretty efficiently. So when I wrote the above comment I was thinking, wasn't that more useful than just redirecting people to Facebook or LinkedIn, when anyone looking to reconnect with someone with my name on Facebook would just do the search on Facebook? Google linking to my papers seems more content-ful. But on the other hand, anyone looking for my papers can find them easily enough anyway, and would probably be using a more specialized site than Google. So maybe they're equally useless. It does seem like the kind of search result Google prefers is changing, though. (It also seems like it's more likely to link to things with video content?)

Probably the only person with my name getting any benefit out of Google searches is the preacher with the blog.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 10:56 PM
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Your real name, on the other hand, returns a bunch of hits about some drummer.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 10:57 PM
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46 to 43.

It does seem like the kind of search result Google prefers is changing, though.

Yeah. They seem to put wikipedia links at the top of the list a lot more consistently than they used to as well.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 10:58 PM
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Google does still find my papers and talks pretty easily; they're the results just below the social-networking profiles. On the other hand, given that those are the only things on the internet with my real name on them, and given the uniqueness of that name, that seems like the only plausible result of a search. I agree that it's a little odd to list the profiles so prominently, though.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 11:01 PM
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46: Fucking drummers, man. They ruin everything.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 11:01 PM
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The web is now littered with links to Twitter, LinkedIn and Facebook, and so every page on those domains is artificially bumped up in Page rank, even though your actual papers and content are probably have a better true Page rank than the url of your FB profile taken alone.


Posted by: Ile | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 11:06 PM
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Googling my real name provides zero links that are actually about me. Sweet!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06- 2-09 11:13 PM
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51: Damn, that's some far-reaching and consistent prudence.

There is a principal of an elementary school in upstate new york who shares my name, but he's not til pretty far down in the listings. I noticed just now that the first 5 google results for me are all different lives -- in addition to FB, there's my band, my old job, my wedding and a protest I flacked for some years ago.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:26 AM
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For the first time, I was able to find something related to me on the first few pages of my google results (searched as a phrase). It used to be I couldn't find anything in the first 10 or more pages.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:52 AM
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I'm sure this is by no means an original observation, but it strikes me that there's a real divide in attitudes toward this issue between people with common names and people with uncommon names.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:58 AM
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I don't know if my name's that common, I just don't use it on the internet very much.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 1:01 AM
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Although working through some permutations I did eventually find something.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 1:01 AM
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Your name's common enough that there are a bunch of other people who share it and do use it on the internet.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 1:04 AM
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At least a couple, true.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 1:04 AM
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And the individual elements of my name are quite common, which helps even more.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 1:08 AM
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Christ, Flickr is driving me crazy. This is the first time I've tried to upload a bunch of pictures using the network here in a long time, and I'm remembering why.

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Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 1:08 AM
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And the individual elements of my name are quite common, which helps even more.

Yeah, the individual elements of my name are pretty rare, and the combination of them is vanishingly so. I'd be seriously shocked to find someone else with the same full name as me.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 1:12 AM
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I once met somebody who had my first name for a last name and my last name for a first name. Not unlikely, exactly, but pretty funny.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 1:13 AM
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Finished! If anyone has a pressing need to see what Farmington looks like, you now have a place to go.

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Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 1:22 AM
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Your real name is excellent, teo. In retrospect I should have given it to my last-born child to help muddy up the Googles for you. But I don't know if it would suit a girl.


Posted by: Nakku | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 1:23 AM
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300 W. Arrington is neat.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 1:24 AM
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300 W. Arrington is neat.

Yeah, it's an interesting building. I forget what's in it; just some random offices, I think.

Your real name is excellent, teo.

Thanks. I like it.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 1:27 AM
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Both search results I found for my name were places where it was used in a professional capacity. I generally only go by my real first name when I'm just casually online. Or by the name I use here.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 1:31 AM
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My middle name remains unique (though there's now a search result for a string that matches it in a long list of terms). The first results are actually google suggesting I mistyped and was searching for some other name.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 1:34 AM
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My last name is also a city name: currently, the first result for my name (without quotes) is Google Maps: "Local business results for [first name] near [last name], [State]."

The non-Maps results are one or two false positives, me on LinkedIn, and then a whole lot of genealogical records - my patrilineal ancestors immigrated early.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 1:53 AM
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I have a problem inviting people to Google my real name, since it's quite unusual but not quite unusual enough: there are about half a dozen other people living in the UK with the same name and high Internet profiles.

I could, of course, invite them to google Jesurgislac... but perhaps not on a first date.


Posted by: Jesurgislac | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 4:01 AM
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Common name. With my middle initial, still pretty common, but my firm bio is the first entry. They deleted my Wikipedia entry, since I'm not really famous, so when my firm bio goes dark, I might be dropping out of sight altogether . . .


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 4:19 AM
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. . . and I use the familiar form of my first name on Facebook in hope of maintaining at least a thin veneer of separation between worlds. On Google.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 4:25 AM
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I was quite disgruntled to find someone reviewing a hotel under 'my' name on a web-site that I had actually used. Then I checked facebook, and there are at least another two of us. Most of the google entries out there are me, though.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 4:25 AM
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I've also noticed that what appears when I search my own name changes radically. I searched it a few weeks back and got a completely different set of search results, which is odd.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 4:27 AM
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54. You may be right. I love my anonymity, which comes guaranteed with the name. Not that I'm shy about using my name on line, but it's so common I never have to worry about anybody finding me. If I was called Pantagruel Polperro and accidentally did something newsworthy, I'd have to spend weeks google proofing myself.


Posted by: OFE | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 4:36 AM
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I was OFE until I got married -- you could pull a couple people with my first and last name out of any decent-sized crowd. Then I hyphenated, and I'm unique now. I don't show up online much -- lawyers get mentioned in court opinions, political donations, my scary grandmother's obituary, but nothing all that personally interesting.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 5:33 AM
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Despite a very common first name and a last name the same as a small country, I come up first on Google (and on Bing).

They've changed something, I used to be much further down not long ago and I'm not at all as active in the venues they list as I used to be.


Posted by: Biohazard | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 5:34 AM
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41 was supposed to be disagreeing with Ile's 38, by the way.


Posted by: [incautious] Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 5:44 AM
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Back in in the paleowebic era, before there was google, I took part in a training session at my employer on using the web for research. The trainer was showing the audience how to do a web search on yahoo (yeah, I'm that old), and asked the audience for a search term. I suggested my name.

Now, it happens that I had written an article that reported some little-known facts that could be used in support of some fairly radical critiques of the democratic capitalist order. Consequently all kinds of Marxist and radical web sites (early adopters of the medium) had been citing my work in support of their views. The first three pages of yahoo search results, displayed up there on the big screen for my colleagues to see, were full of text fragments like "www.revolutionaryworker.org...Smash the imperialist oppressor state...[pain perdu] writes that...solidarity with Cubu and North Korea."

The trainer diplomatically speculated that it they referred to another [pain perdu], but alas, my name is uncommon enough that this simply wasn't plausible.


Posted by: pain perdu | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 5:44 AM
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And 78 was by me. Dammit! Can someone change it?

77: Congrats on the success of Swansea AFC, Jason.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 5:45 AM
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My Facebook profile comes up on the first page of google hits for my name, but after a muscle-bound guitarist/singer in NM, a playwright in MD, a crapload of LinkedIn Russ Barneses, and an ice rink in Canada.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 6:31 AM
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I'm the only one who comes up on google even if you just use my first name alone.

And when you look at 63, think, "hey, Jammies went to high school here! neat."


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 7:01 AM
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Googling my name I only get to me on the sixth page -- the top hit for my name is a fugitive on the America's Most Wanted web-site.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 7:02 AM
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Google my full name in quotes, and you find exactly three hits: the local newspaper's story about my high school graduation, and two blog comments where I point out how weird it is. (My dad's family name was pretty unusual, and when he married my mother they hyphenated, and decided to give me this unique first name.) Google my full name not in quotes, and you get Billy Ray's spawn.

Google the version of my name I use whenever I can (first name and the part of my last name that came from dad), whether in quotes or not, and you find my facebook page first and all but one or two of the next several pages are relics of my last job as a reporter.

I wish I had legally changed my name. Dumb of me not to have done it while at my last job. But I didn't need to change it then because I could just introduce myself as what I wanted and my real name was between me, my parents and the woman who took care of payroll. Now I have to show two different ID cards with my full name on them to get to work in the morning and my work e-mail account is linked to one of them and so on. Hard to introduce myself as I prefer when I have to keep explaining why that's not what's written.


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 7:03 AM
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Pre-meeting Googling is reasonably (though not perfectly) correlated with good manners in general. If you know a lot of rather intimate information about a person, it's not polite to start interrogating them about it upon first meeting.

I've often thought that the worst thing would be to be a person with a distinctive name who was inadvertently involved in a high-profile crime or unpleasant news story, and is young enough for all of the clips to be easily accessible.

But even there, I think, the relevant factor is not entirely whether your past is Googleable, so much as how people choose to use it.

The fact that a lot of people are maleducados is a complication, I admit.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 7:10 AM
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My first name is common enough, but spelled in a not very common manner. My last name is common enough in Italy and sort of common here. Googling the two together you basically get me in every case -- except one.* She just finished nursing school and got married. I'm very proud.

*If you use another weird spelling of my first name + my last name, you get a raw foods restaurant owner. I've had friends parents call me up to congratulate me for all my success thanks to this one.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 7:12 AM
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Google my full name not in quotes, and you get Billy Ray's spawn.

My friend's 5 year old kid accuses my friend "Stop being Hannah Montana" whenever her mom does anything that the 5 year old percieves as being innapropriately teenage-ish. Like using dated slang sarcastically, or mock dancing or singing.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 7:14 AM
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87: Oh, she's just being Miley...


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 7:20 AM
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At least six of ten first hits on Google are me - didn't click through the linkedin and facebook links to see if they were. Aqoul seems to have fallen off the first page.


Posted by: Tom Scudder | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 7:27 AM
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Googling 'Moby Hick' brings you to an episode of Popeye before you hit Unfogged.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 7:43 AM
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79: Back in in the paleowebic era, before there was google,

When AltaVista first came out, a guy who worked for me pointed out that the first result for my name was an archive site that had picked up a Usenet post I had written on ""Socially Camouflaged Technologies: The Case of the Electromechanical Vibrator," (published in an IEEE journal) by Rachel Maines whose work was prominently featured in the film Power and Passion, The Technology of the Vibrator" (discussed here not too long ago). Did not care about that other than the special bonus inclusion of my work e-mail address (early Usenet dumbness c'était moi).


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 7:47 AM
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I once met somebody who had my first name for a last name and my last name for a first name.

Mine is much more common that way, which results in my often being misfiled.


Posted by: McDonald Jack | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 7:48 AM
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Tell me about it.


Posted by: Obama Barack | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 7:51 AM
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It may get a little better with time, Obama.


Posted by: Kennedy Johns | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 7:53 AM
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I think 94 is the VJ from MTV!


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 7:55 AM
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Don't ask what happens when you google my name.


Posted by: Yiff Furry | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 7:55 AM
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96: 'Cuz if you have to ask, you can't afford it.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 8:00 AM
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There was a whole young adult novel about that, Kennedy, McDonald, and Obama.

Also, 80 to everyone with power.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 8:41 AM
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98: Got it.


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98: got it.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 8:49 AM
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Kobe pwnage. Drat.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 8:50 AM
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Anybody else want to get it?


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 8:50 AM
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101: Kwbage.


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You can get to me by googling [firstname] harvard german (no quotes). ([firstname german harvard doesn't get me for quite awhile though.) When I used to online date, this meant there was pretty much no hiding, even if I didn't reveal my last name or institution right away. And lots of explanation: no, really, multiple Fulbrights is not a super huge deal when you're in some sort of area studies.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 9:08 AM
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I think I've shared before that when I googled myself a whil ago I came upon some woman's blog post in which she described being horribly stricken with an attack of pain in sort of a seizure. she was lying on the floor of the bathroom or whatever and she started repeating my name like a mantra until the pain went away. she said that afterward it made her feel weird to read my blog, so she stopped.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 9:23 AM
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e

kicking it read style.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 9:24 AM
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I swear I just posted a comment about 104, but wevs.

I seem to have been successful in purging my real name from google as regards unfogged.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 9:53 AM
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107:

Results 1 - 10 of about 437 from unfogged.com for "___ _______"


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My name is totally unique, so far. Which means that the blog post where some asshole excoriates me for an article I wrote is pretty much with me forever. Also a bunch of red websites which posted the entirety of an online petition I signed in the Web's infancy. (I don't think I even signed it on a website -- an acquaintance emailed me to ask if he could add my name to a petition for a cause I supported and I said okay. Hmph.) Plus Facebook, Myspace, many other bits of journalism and my one actual personal academic journal appearance. (Top of the results, currently.)

But the very best thing about my current Google results is that someone in a scholarly journal (of dubious scholaricity as it will be seen) seems to have quoted a throw-away line from a movie review I wrote about a particular pop-psychology phenomenon, that I only put in the review based on a several-years-old reading of Douglas Rushkoff, who himself probably didn't do any serious research. I don't have academic journal privileges right now, but unless the cite was along the lines of "look at how the popular press misinterprets psychology" then I think the author is full of shit.


Posted by: minneapolitan | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 10:07 AM
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Crap. I didn't even try a site search, just googling my real name. OH WELL.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 10:09 AM
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I can get the article for you if you want, minnie.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 10:09 AM
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#105. Possibly, she was confusing you with Avalokiteśvara.


Posted by: Populuxe | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 10:10 AM
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Dammit! The bizarre cite vanished down the hoohole, to be replaced by a completely different bizarre cite.


Posted by: minneapolitan | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 10:11 AM
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111: Thanks, now I can't find it. It's just like at the thrift store. If you see something: Grab it!


Posted by: minneapolitan | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 10:13 AM
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Googling my pseud gets you this site.

Oh man...


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 10:16 AM
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If you google my name, you get links for just about every aspect of my life, but I didn't put them up. Someone who writes a personal blog doesn't really get to complain about being overexposed, but you still (knock wood) don't get to my personal blog from my name. You do, however, get to see my college thesis, every sports event I've done, the times I get quoted in the paper, my work, my other work, another paper, mentions of my community garden. I didn't post a single one of those and was never offered a chance to be cautious about having my name give me away online.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 10:16 AM
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115: So, is that link you or not?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 10:18 AM
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And lots of explanation: no, really, multiple Fulbrights is not a super huge deal when you're in some sort of area studies.

I don't believe this for a minute.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 10:18 AM
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117: Yes, I am indeed a teenage girl. Trapped in the body of a middle aged man. Laydeez...


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 10:19 AM
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118: There's a test to see if you're right or not. Google 'overly modest' and see if Blume is in the first 100 or so hits.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 10:20 AM
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Clearly I'm getting pointless now. Time to pull the cord and get work done.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 10:20 AM
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115: Can we start changing ToS's handle to "iluvlovespink83"?


Posted by: minneapolitan | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 10:25 AM
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105 is the strangest thing I've read in a long time. I love it.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 10:28 AM
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Not true. Top twenty results:

catholicforum.fisheaters.com: HELP: Protestant friend starting to outright oppose Church
realzionistnews.com: Why I Left Judaism
myspace.com/kevin_okeeffe
jewishjournal.com: Muslims heart 'The Daily Show'
joshuapundit.blogspot.com: Why Don't Jews Like Christians Who Like Them?
israelect.com: To Seduce the Elect - Part 2 of 7
Challenging the Bible (s) Part One, by Mohamed Khodr
Communist History Network Newsletter: Charles Poulsen (1911-2001): Cabbie, novelist, historian and poet
Kesher Talk: "Go Grab His Ass"
Dungeons & Dragons Wizard Community: WWIII or a new era of prosperity - Page 14


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 10:32 AM
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The imarealtuffie spiel tos has is one of it's weakest; as a self respecting troll, it should consider dropping it.

On the other hand it's fair evidence the tos actually is a tween age girl stuck in an (approaching?) middle aged man's (slightly balding, slightly doughy) body. So at least we've got that visual now.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 10:40 AM
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110 -- Anyone who would know to search for you @ unfogged likely would already be able to identify your comments anyway.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 10:50 AM
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And lots of explanation: no, really, multiple Fulbrights is not a super huge deal when you're in some sort of area studies.

This translates more or less into, "Yes, I'm really fucking smart, but I swear I am not going to make you feel inferior and stupid every time you open your mouth."


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 10:53 AM
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127: and she doesn't! Genius.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 10:55 AM
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127: You can communicate that with clothing.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 10:58 AM
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129: What, short skirts and lots of cleavage?


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 11:00 AM
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130: If a woman. A man could use a WWF t-shirt or something.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 11:04 AM
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131: Or biking apparel!


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 11:06 AM
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Blume's ability not to make people feel inferior and stupid makes me feel inferior and stupid.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 11:23 AM
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But aren't you a graduate student? Graduate students are supposed to feel inferior and stupid, punctuated by all too brief bursts of monomaniacal confidence, when the bulk of the work actually gets done.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 11:54 AM
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Glad I have exactly one more day of studenthood. Commencement tomorrow! The final final exam: figuring out how to iron this hideously wrinkled and oddly constructed polyester robe.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:01 PM
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Posted by: | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:05 PM
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Hang it in a hot shower to get the major creases out, and don't bother otherwise?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:05 PM
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135: Congradulations. Don't iron it. You still get the same degree.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:06 PM
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Wrinkles aren't important, like spelling congratulations correctly.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:07 PM
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138: You will? Dammit, I have a phone call to make.


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:08 PM
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135: Glad I didn't get that far. It would have hurt a lot worse, if I made it all the way to the ceremony only to be tossed out at the last moment because of my lack of ironing skills.

Also -- CONGRATULATIONS!


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:08 PM
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I thought MH was making a lame greeting-card pun.

ConGRADulations, Blume!!!


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:08 PM
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Congratulations Blume!


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:09 PM
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I'll try the shower thing. I wouldn't bother, except that the creases are really bad, and the robe is hot pink (er, crimson) rather than black, so they show up quite well. And I'll be photographed quite a bit tomorrow.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:09 PM
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What they don't tell you when you apply to grad schools is that you have to live with the regalia for the rest of your life, if you stay in academia.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:10 PM
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Congratulations, Blume! Hang the polyester wizarding robes up in the shower.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:11 PM
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145 is true.

You can't change the color scheme (and most of the good ones were taken 400 years ago). They may also make you wear a very silly hat.

On the other hand, if you do get stuck with the colors, at least you don't have to be stuck with the material.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:11 PM
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148: No, if you stay in academia, you have to write your own material.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:13 PM
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The ToS reveals himself in the latest to be akin to a professor at Steinford, who regularly says of the grad students whose origins are European that they, being educated, of course know Greek.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:14 PM
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Thanks all! Steaming has commenced. The first time ever that having a miniscule bathroom has been a good thing.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:15 PM
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No, if you stay in academia, you have to write your own material.

At least, in theory....


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:15 PM
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Oh boy! I have spare discretionary funds that must be spent up. Time to buy a Drobo.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:15 PM
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The ToS is also about as intimidating as the average professor at Steinford, so there is that.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:16 PM
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"intimidating" should be "physically intimidating" in 154 of course.

And the average properly only includes faculty over 45.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:17 PM
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The ToS aspires to be the homeless and pathetic man's Charles Bukowski. And yet I believe Bukowski was homeless and pathetic himself for much of his life, making this a singularly unimpressive ambition.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:22 PM
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Hook 'em, Blume!


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:24 PM
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Time to buy a Drobo.

I suppose a dobro wouldn't accomplish the same thing (interesting, the FF spellchecker doesn't recognize dobro).


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:24 PM
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Congrats Blume!


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:26 PM
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Dobros are cool.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:28 PM
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Das ist fantastisch. Herzlichen Glückwunsch, Blume!


Posted by: Tiny Hermaphrodite | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:28 PM
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I suppose a dobro wouldn't accomplish the same thing

No, but it's a lot more useful without electricity.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:29 PM
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Time to buy a Dropo!


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:31 PM
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||

Status updates that make one SO glad to be with Jammies instead of with one's ex:

life's a series (cycle?) of sacrifices, juxtaposed in parallel with complimentary rewards

|>


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:31 PM
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Hey, congrats Blume! So great!


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:32 PM
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Congratulations Blume!


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:35 PM
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164: I don't get it. What's wrong with that, the turgid prose? (To be fair, I can see how that could be a problem in a relationship.) Or does what he said make you think of some history particular to the two of you?


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:36 PM
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Congratulations, Blume.

Also, you're not supposed to hang it in the shower, you're supposed to wear it in the shower. Didn't ogged teach you people anything?


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:37 PM
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Also, congratulations Blume!


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:37 PM
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Congrats, Blume!

Don't forget to drink heavily.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:38 PM
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Let me be the first to offer you sincerest congratulations, Blume. I'm quite surprised noone has woo!ed you yet either, but I'll hold off so someone else can have that honor.

The hell I will: woo! Hook 'em!


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:38 PM
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168: oh, it's just a particularly cheesy facebook status. I don't have any hard feelings towards him.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:40 PM
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One piece of advice when dealing with graduation robes. If it rains, you might want to take-off the robe if you like what you are wearing underneath. The dye job is every bit as cheap as the fabric. (Fortunately, I skipped my rained-on graduation and learned this second hand.)


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:40 PM
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164 does not make me glad to be with Jammies. OTOH, it does make me glad not to be with Heebie's ex, so at least there's that.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:41 PM
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Mazel tov Blume! Does this mean you're changing your pseud to "BlumePhD"?


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:44 PM
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UeberBlume!


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:46 PM
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The robe I wore for graduation had been handed down amongst friends and siblings over many graduations without ever being cleaned. It had big splotchy stains and smelled like beer and had spent at least a year wadded up in the bottom of someone's closet so it was about as wrinkled as a raisin. I actually had competition to wear it.


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178
The robe I wore for graduation had been handed down amongst friends and siblings over many graduations without ever being cleaned... I actually had competition to wear it.

And what did the winner get?


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:53 PM
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I suppose a dobro wouldn't accomplish the same thing

Made in some mountain range? Sounds like a mountain range in love.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:55 PM
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Congratulations, Blume!


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:55 PM
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Graduate students are supposed to feel inferior and stupid, punctuated by all too brief bursts of monomaniacal confidence, when the bulk of the work actually gets done.

I still feel that way, except that in the brief bursts of monomaniacal confidence, I don't really get much work done.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:56 PM
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And when you look at 63, think, "hey, Jammies went to high school here! neat."

You can see the stadium at the top of this picture. The rest of the school is behind it, but I didn't take any pictures of it. The daughter of one of my coworkers just graduated from there. Go Scorpions!


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 12:59 PM
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We are the Scorpions!
We don't give a hoot.
If you try and cross us,
you'd better check your boot.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 1:02 PM
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Maybe you could succeed in telling me about the Opeth concert.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 1:04 PM
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I still feel that way, except that in the brief bursts of monomaniacal confidence, I don't really get much work done.

true. Also, "The bulk of the work", sadly, does not always imply very much work.


And what did the winner get?
Lice?


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->(18{5,2}).


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 1:04 PM
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185: Careful, it only encourages him, essear.


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They may also make you wear a very silly hat.

I love the hats so much. There was an Italian professor at U of C who I swear I saw in a green velvet version of Aladdin's lamp with a tassel hanging down from a central point in front of his eyes, making them cross. I was very sad that a JD, while in some technical sense (i.e., not really) a doctoral degree, doesn't come with a silly hat.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 1:10 PM
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My dad refused to get his LL.B. turned into a J.D., but probably would have agreed if he got a hat.


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189: Don't rely on weird academic conventions for your silly hats, LB. You can wear a silly hat for no reason at all, which is pretty much the best reason to wear a silly hat there is.

I dream of a world with more silly hats. Really takes the edge off, you know?


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I suspect that its' the silly hats make the rest of the getup ok, for what it's worth; at least, for convocations. It's a way of paying homage to a long tradition and taking the mickey of yourselves a little bit at the same time, which keeps it from being insufferable, or something.


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I still feel that way, except that in the brief bursts of monomaniacal confidence, I don't really get much work done. wind up commenting here.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 1:17 PM
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I dream of a world with more silly hats. Really takes the edge off, you know?

This also is true. However, I suspect LB was bemoaning the formal bestowal of her own silly hat, which isn't quite the same as realizing that you can just just wear a hat if you want. Or make one for your kid or whatever.


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I wear silly utilitarian hats to keep the sun off -- from June through September I'm usually in something that looks like the hat you'd put on a mule to keep it cool on a hot day (except without the holes for my ears), and in the winter I tend toward the giant mass of fake fur. But that's less satisfying than the pure bizarrerie of academic headgear.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 1:20 PM
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This is awesome and appropriate for many occasions. Wear it to court!

My unreliable memory suggests it's been linked here before, but I'm a rebel and all, so what the heck.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 1:20 PM
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Aaaaaand pwnage! Ow ow ow.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 1:22 PM
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They may also make you wear a very silly hat.

The hat really is what does it. When I tried on the whole getup, the robe was still in the same realm as past graduations and choir robes. But putting on the hat suddenly made it all medieval. Though it isn't exactly the same hat, one of my first thoughts was, Hey, I'm Erasmus!


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 1:22 PM
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I've long had a wish that men's hats (like from the 40s and 50s) would come back, but I'm not a trend setter, so I've never dared to wear one.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 1:23 PM
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193: So sad, but pretty much the truth about me.


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(Yes, I know Erasmus wasn't medieval.)


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Wow, your memory must be unreliable if it can't span from 194 to 196.

The pwnage, does it burn like having a shark eat your head?


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Also, it's sad how many North American universities just use a default (mortarboard) silly hat. Where's the fun in that?


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If I don't get a goddam octagonal tam I'll be really pissed.

Apparently I do, but the rest of the outfit is so heinous I'm pissed anyway.


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I think I've already mentioned this somewhere on the internet, but a week or two ago I saw an old woman in full academic regalia (black gown, only mildly goofy black-and-blue hat) on a New Jersey Transit train. I can't imagine walking around a crowded train station in that gown and hat. I assume she was heading to a Rutgers graduation ceremony, but surely there's a way to pack the clothes and change there?


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 1:29 PM
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I really should get a picture of myself in my Smokey Bear hat.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 1:30 PM
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THE OPETH CONCERT, ESSEAR!


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204: Looks liek it would be good for doing an "I am the God of hellfire!" reprise.


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204: As noted, the bloody europeans mostly grabbed all the good color schemes (and some of the awful ones) before anyone over here had a chance.


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a week or two ago I saw an old woman in full academic regalia (black gown, only mildly goofy black-and-blue hat) on a New Jersey Transit train.

If I had to pay $359.00 for an outfit, I'd wear it like all the time.


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209: Just like with colonialism.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 1:32 PM
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That's no excuse for those sleeves, soup.


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I like the sleeves. It's like your hands are being licked by golden flame.


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THE OPETH CONCERT, ESSEAR!

See, I never really listen to metal, or even to proggy rock for that matter, so I don't really have anything very interesting or insightful to say. The opening band was Enslaved and they had major sound problems and I think the metal-muppet-voices are hilarious. Opeth was decently entertaining, and kept making half-audible jokes about Skid Row in a very prim Swedish accent. The number of mullets was astounding. I don't think I can say much more than that.


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Mikael Åkerfeldt's accent is kind of amusingly prim, given what he does.


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And yet I believe Bukowski was homeless and pathetic himself for much of his life, making this a singularly unimpressive ambition.

The man had a real talent for drawing funny cartoons, though. Examples are hard to find online (examples of Bukowski's art can be found here, but the cartoons are lacking), but he drew lots of cartoons of Bukowski-like people doing Bukowski-like things in a bold, colorful style accompanied by bleak captions. In my favorite, a little Bukowski dude sits in an overstuffed chair surrounded by bottles with Snuffy Smith XXXs on them. The caption says "I go home and drink 18 bottles of beer."

The ToS should take up painting, I think.


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I'm pretty into the Stanford outfit, nosflow.

I'm also excited that my advisor, who will be giving me the diploma, got her doctorate in Germany, and therefore has fur trim on her outfit. It's brown rabbit fur, she tells me. Not as cool when some guy in the Slavic Department got a special honor a few years ago, and a bunch of people from Poland were hanging out around my building in outfits with lots of snow white fur.


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Regalia is awfully expensive.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 1:46 PM
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nosflow, that's true. It's like some of them go out of their way to be hideous.

A convocation related conversation: picture family gathered around a graduate student of my acquaintance afterwards. Her excitable mother wanted to know everything, and was badgering her about details like "ok, I understand now why the professors are all dressed differently, but why are your people wearing different color tassles and kerchiefs?" after a moment of discussing types of degrees and why some people can wear the gold tassles and some people can't, one family member turns to another and says "Oh, so it's like a hanky code" At which point newly graduated girl turns an interesting shade of pink and family friend snorts half a soda through their nose.


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205: I wore my gown and hat on the train to graduation, and through a walk to campus. It was one of the most communal, happiest moments of my college career (I was a commuter student) and most of the cheers and good wishes were from total not-connected-to-the-university strangers.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 1:48 PM
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213 gets it exactly right. Nosflow, when you graduate you should rig up flamethrowers inside your sleeves.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 1:48 PM
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Regalia is awfully expensive.

Especially if you lose the stuff you've borrowed for the ceremony, I've heard.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 1:48 PM
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#221. And you should pass out candy.


Posted by: Populuxe | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 1:51 PM
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And you should pass out candy. at the after party.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 1:52 PM
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If your regalia is grand enough, you can hide many things in the sleeves.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 1:55 PM
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Regalia is awfully expensive.

No shit. And for such poor quality! A friend was negotiating replacements for her wrong-sized regalia, and happened to remark on how insanely expensive it is. The company representative said, But it's Turkish polyester!


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I bet Turkish polyester is fabulous. It makes me think of T.E. Lawrence, heavily disguised, wandering the casbah in search of stretchy disco pants.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 2:09 PM
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rock the Casbah!


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 2:11 PM
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REGATTAS ARE AWFULLY EXPENSIVE.


Posted by: OPINIONATED FORMER HEDGE FUND MANAGER | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 2:12 PM
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Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 2:12 PM
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If your regalia is grand enough, you can hide many things in the sleeves.

According to Dorothy Sayers, cigarette cases and wadded up hankerchiefs are traditional.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 2:14 PM
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I am in the process of trying to figure out where I can stash stuff on my person. I need at least my camera and my phone. The latter so that I can later find my way back to the people who will have my wallet and keys. Too bad my camera phone isn't better.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 2:16 PM
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231: +d


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 2:20 PM
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Small handbags, small bottles of champagne, digital cameras.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 2:22 PM
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I'm still kicking myself that I didn't buy a set from the miscellaneous doctoral regalia that was on sale when they merged the U of Mn bookstores a few years ago. I don't even remember what the colors were, probably some technical thing where everybody's too rich to worry about getting a bargain, but they seemed like decent quality polyester and the price just dropped and dropped. Would've been good for a lot of free drinks every May. Damn.


Posted by: minneapolitan | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 2:23 PM
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I guess taping flasks of bourbon to my legs the way we used to do to smuggle it into the Kentucky Derby is unnecessary.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 2:24 PM
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Only because you don't need the tape.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 2:26 PM
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Anyway, it's a celebration! Class it up. Tape a flask of cognac to your leg.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 2:27 PM
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I'd rather do something like this, but with champagne splits. Oh well, failure to plan ahead.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 2:46 PM
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Late to the party, but congratulations, Blume!


Posted by: Tom Scudder | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 3:10 PM
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Congrats, Blume. Ya' made us all proud!


Posted by: pain perdu | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 3:22 PM
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Vee haff vays of making you wear a funny hat. Congratulations!


Posted by: Not Prince Hamlet | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 4:26 PM
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but they seemed like decent quality polyester

I don't think I ever had the option of polyester. Undergrad & masters robes were poly. unsurprisingly, but all the doctoral gowns were mad e of sturdier stuff. So you could borrow for the ceremony, or have some made for several hundred dollars. The latter option makes some sense, if you've got to drag them out yearly for 30 years or whaever. You can always skint on it by grabbing a robe off the rack, but that's probably bad form if you're walking a ph.d student of your own.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 4:34 PM
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204: Whoa, looks like a koi costume. NTTAWWT.


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 4:47 PM
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I just googled myself and the video I did for these people is finally up on their myspace page. A very silly piece, but I got to try out a bunch of things.


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 4:55 PM
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at the next unfogged meetup, everyone has wear appropriate academic regalia, or at least a very silly hat.


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246: the next unfogged meetup


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 5:07 PM
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Googling my real name brings up a blog called "Handlebar Moustacheland". (Unfortunately, the name is the most interesting part.) My blog doesn't come up in until page 9, oddly.


Posted by: paranoid android | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 8:45 PM
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Googling "teofilo" comes up mostly with a bunch of people named Teófilo, although my Flickr page is in there and my blog is at the bottom of the first page of results.


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Hoch sollst du leben, Blume! Ich gratuliere!
Hey: dreimal hoch!


Posted by: paan daya | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 9:25 PM
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247: I've already got the costume.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 9:29 PM
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If I had ever finished my PhD and had gone on to an academic career, I so would have cut my polyester regalia apart to use it as a pattern for a set made out of some material I actually like. That's not, like, academic misconduct or anything, right? And the regalia itself is just basically a smock, so how hard would it really be to sew together?


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 9:38 PM
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251: Nice. Did you serpentine during the race?


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 10:07 PM
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We did!


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 10:32 PM
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I now have an image of Shriners in little cars serpentining across a runway under machine gun fire.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 10:36 PM
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Following up, I am at this moment in possession of pictures of Blume wearing her academic regalia, and let me tell you people: she looks fantastic. Some people are just made to rock Erasmus's hat.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06- 3-09 11:28 PM
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yay blume!!


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