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My friend had a baby six weeks after Hawaiian Punch was born.

Wow, really? It hasn't already been six weeks since Hawaiian Punch was born, has it?

(Goes to another window, does a Google site search for a phrase I remember from the announcement post: "blissed out.") Huh. I guess it has. Um, happy six weeks, HP.


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 3:32 PM
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(It has been almost nine weeks! She's coming along nicely.)


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 3:33 PM
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(I mean, almost 10 weeks.)


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 3:36 PM
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I did a paper on this in law school, but yeah, it's a problem. There are plenty of areas where the local hospital is Catholic, and procedures that (some, not all) Catholic hospitals won't do. And people don't expect it, so they get blindsided -- your friend probably didn't realize they wouldn't tie her tubes when she initially planned to give birth there.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 3:38 PM
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(It has been almost nine weeks! She's coming along nicely.)

How much longer until she's ready?


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 3:39 PM
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5: 18 years, give or take ten weeks.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 3:40 PM
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If the choice is tubes tied vs vasectomy, I am having a hard time finding a good justification for choosing tubes, given the relative seriousness of the procedures.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 3:52 PM
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What 7 said.

To make it more complicated, this varies by Catholic hospital.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 3:53 PM
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7: Well, if you're already open for a C-section, the tube-tying isn't any additional trauma. Once the hospital won't let you do it that way, the vasectomy starts looking more attractive.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 3:57 PM
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the vasectomy starts looking more attractive

Except, it would seem, to Dad....


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 3:58 PM
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Has she considered this? No reopening necessary.


Posted by: Amber | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 3:58 PM
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OT: No more masturbating to Michael Jackson.

That was a disturbing sentence to write.


Posted by: dob | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 3:59 PM
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12: CNN just says hospitalized. He's dead?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 4:00 PM
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Could her husband have a vasectomy instead? I dutifully inquired and got some mushy science hocus-pocus as to why he could not, and also got some vibes that it would be antisocial of me to try to pin them down on the particulars of the science-mush.

I don't think the science mush is all that confusing. A vasectomy won't solve anything if they have a non-monogamous sex life.


Posted by: ed bowlinger | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 4:01 PM
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12: TNC says he's dead, but the link is to TMZ, so I suppose one may continue masturbating, but may not orgasm until and unless further word develops.


Posted by: dob | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 4:03 PM
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13: He hasn't been declared dead yet. He's holding on to give us all one last chance.


Posted by: feldspar | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 4:04 PM
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16 was pwned because I cannot type with only one hand.


Posted by: feldspar | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 4:08 PM
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If the choice is tubes tied vs vasectomy, I am having a hard time finding a good justification for choosing tubes, given the relative seriousness of the procedures.

If the guy is really phobic about vasectomy it is contraindicated.


Posted by: James B. Shearer | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 4:12 PM
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erm, that's not what contraindicated means, i think, James. There is no increase in risk...


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 4:25 PM
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14: if the goal is that they have no more children, that situation is entirely symmetric.

so they must have both.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 4:27 PM
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Dead Michael Jackson: the only news ever big enough to have everyone on my Facebook homepage writing about the same topic.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 4:28 PM
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The vasectomy hocus-pocus was around some increased cancer risk associated with him getting a vasectomy, that smelled to me like a general not-wanting-scissors-near-your-junk cancer risk.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 4:29 PM
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Have I told the story about how when I was in the Peace Corps, my Samoan had just gotten good enough that I could eavesdrop on people's conversations a little, and I was idly sitting on the ferry listening to a couple of women from a village talking about stuff. And then I had to interrupt them to confirm: "Excuse me, but did you just say that Michael Jackson married Lisa Marie Presley?" It's a very small media world.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 4:31 PM
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Ok, it turns out you should have stopped masturbating at least 15 minutes ago.


Posted by: feldspar | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 4:32 PM
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The writers for the London Times online quit masturbating long enough to write this, and sums up everything I love about the English:

Jackson, 50, was due to start a series of comeback concerts in London on July 13 running until March 2010...The shows for the London concerts sold out within hours of going on sale in March, and these will now be thrown seriously into doubt.


Posted by: Ubu Imperator | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 4:42 PM
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Scissors are an underappreciated cancer vector.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 4:47 PM
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I am so looking forward to 24 hours of "breaking news stories" about Michael Jackson, consisting of "He's still dead!" and "Yes, he died. Here is a picture of the hospital where he died." "Yes, Michael Jackson. Still dead."

Now if there was a possibility he was going to become a zombie, or rise as a vampire, that would be news...


Posted by: Jesurgislac | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 4:51 PM
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he shows for the London concerts sold out within hours of going on sale in March, and these will now be thrown seriously into doubt.

Unless he rises as a vampire.


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erm, that's not what contraindicated means, i think, James. There is no increase in risk...

Actually I believe there is an increase in risk particularly of complications like impotence.


Posted by: James B. Shearer | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 4:53 PM
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29 hadn't thought of that. i suppose it's plausible, if unlikely --- the mind is a funny place.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 4:54 PM
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11: Yes, people should know about that option.

If the choice is tubes tied vs vasectomy, I am having a hard time finding a good justification for choosing tubes, given the relative seriousness of the procedures.

Here's one. The woman wants permanent birth control, and the guy doesn't. Pretty simple.


Posted by: Margarita | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 4:55 PM
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Unless he rises as a vampire.

I guess that's one (the only?) way to top "Thriller"


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 4:55 PM
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28: Zombie is more likely, given the precedent established by Thriller.


Posted by: Ubu Imperator | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 4:56 PM
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Dammit, pwned by 32.


Posted by: Ubu Imperator | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 4:56 PM
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Now if there was a possibility he was going to become a zombie, or rise as a vampire, that would be news...

Well, you know... (8:25 mark).


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 4:56 PM
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Very pwned, but with added value.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 4:57 PM
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Now if there was a possibility he was going to become a zombie, or rise as a vampire, that would be news...

Apart from 'Thriller', he is said to have spent $150,000 on a Malian witch doctor in an attempt to kill 25 people, including Steven Spielberg.


Posted by: beamish | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 5:00 PM
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Incidentally, if we are eulogizing Michael, it is hard to overestimate the impact of the Jackson Five in the early 70s. Fuck, even Stevie Wonder was getting profound and depressing.

"123" was a jolt of perfect joy.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 5:16 PM
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35: This zombie is not available in my country due to copyright restrictions.


Posted by: Jesurgislac | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 5:18 PM
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38: But it was those songs that did it to him: "Sugar Daddy"? "The Love You Save"? Messed up. Messed up.


Posted by: minneapolitan | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 5:19 PM
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Regarding the OP, rather than the dead pop singer stuff, I'd really like to put in a good word for vasectomies.

Heading in for mine, I got all psyched up for convalescing with a very personal pain for a while, picking out books, etc. But it was really no big deal at all. It was *not* like getting kicked in the nuts for three days. It wasn't even like getting kicked in the nuts once. I didn't finish any books, I just went back to work dicking around on the internet.

I didn't have any psychological weirdness about it either. I chatted amicably with the doctor about what could possibly cause the 1 in 10,000 failure rate for the procedure and walked away comfortably knowing that I will only have to deal with two pain in the neck kids for the rest of my life.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 5:19 PM
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38""ABC"? Whatever.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 5:20 PM
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40: "The Love You Save" is a perfect pop song. Shhh.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 5:30 PM
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I have a memory, perhaps false, of Michael Jackson performing with the Jackson Five at Mandel Hall durinng the UofC folk/blues festival. That would have been in the late 1960s.

I'm getting disturbed by the people dying. Farrah Fawcett. The nice lady from the South Pole. Now Michael Jackson. I wish they'd stop. Only people at least 40 years older than I should due. I want to speak to the management.


Posted by: Michael H Schneider | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 5:45 PM
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due = die. No Freudian interference there. for sure.


Posted by: Michael H Schneider | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 5:46 PM
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44:Sky Saxon


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 5:54 PM
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Look on the bright side - Jackson's children are young enough that several years of intense therapy ought to be adequate to deal with their various Daddy-induced traumas. They may even learn to walk around without veils/scarves/towels around their faces.

On topic: Lots of hospitals have been taken over by the Catholic medical megalith in the last couple of decades. There are a lot of things they won't do - abortions, offering Plan B to rape victims, etc. In the olden days, the policy with problem births was "save the baby, let the mother die".

OT: Never break your pelvis. It fucking HURTS! Even on large doses of opiates. [I'm surviving on Fentanyl patches, morphine, Vicodin and extra-strength Tylenol.] Pain, BTW, is not a "medical" reason to keep a patient in the hospital, according to Blue Shield. Nor is the inability to walk. They kicked me out of the Acute Rehab ward a week before my doctors thought I should go, and before I could walk.


Posted by: DominEditrix | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 5:58 PM
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Catholic hospitals: really really crappy if you happen to be a woman with functioning reproductive organs.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 5:59 PM
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46: Wow, I just saw him perform this March.


Posted by: Criminally Bulgur | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 6:01 PM
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DE, so glad to see you. Wish you were already sound and healed.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 6:04 PM
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47: DE! Hooray!


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 6:04 PM
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DOMINE!

OT: Never break your pelvis. It fucking HURTS! Even on large doses of opiates. [I'm surviving on Fentanyl patches, morphine, Vicodin and extra-strength Tylenol.]

I am 100% sure this is true. Also, that really sucks.

Pain, BTW, is not a "medical" reason to keep a patient in the hospital, according to Blue Shield. Nor is the inability to walk. They kicked me out of the Acute Rehab ward a week before my doctors thought I should go, and before I could walk.

Yeah. Arkansas loves you, in their own little banjo-playin' way.

I'm very glad that you live and at least can somehow type!

max
['Just say no to zombiefication.']


Posted by: max | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 6:07 PM
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47: Also, in re acute rehab, that sucks! How is this determined? My mother walked out of acute rehab against medical advice -- she felt she was done and being there with much worse off folks was making her worse -- and she had been there a while.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 6:15 PM
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Ack! Broken pelvis! Heal fast, DE.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 6:20 PM
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oh noes, DE! heal fast.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 6:32 PM
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DominEditrix! Glad to see you're back.

I cried a little in the car today when I heard the news. And then all the radio stations started to play an MJ marathon, and when "The Way You Make Me Feel" came on I cried again. It's not even close to his best song, but it's the one that I always imagined I'd dance to at my wedding.


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 6:37 PM
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DominEditrix!


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 6:51 PM
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DominEditrix, Good to see you. That totally sucks about the pain. If you're feeling up to it, would you write to DiFi about your experience and tell her that she can't fucking vote against health reform and that we can't leave it to the private insurers. Boxer has not been making promising sounds either.

Also B, you promised a post on healthcare before leblanc got inspired to write about Iran.

(Sorry, guys, for being so earnest and so annoyingly dogged about this one issue.)


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 7:19 PM
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DE! Yay!


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 7:29 PM
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Here's one. The woman wants permanent birth control, and the guy doesn't. Pretty simple.

This is a better reason.


Posted by: James B. Shearer | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 7:51 PM
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Michael was my first.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 8:20 PM
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61: Hey, is that linked thread the site of pre-dating Sifu/Blume flirting? I believe it is.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 8:43 PM
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Oh dear. Good eye.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 8:48 PM
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Although I suspect she wasn't actually attempting to flirt with me.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 8:48 PM
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I don't think Sifu was on my radar back then. Not romantically anyway.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 9:04 PM
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Yep. Story of my life.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 9:06 PM
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Bave's mix from that thread looks awesome. I don't think I ever listened to it, though. Maher Shalal Hash Baz AND Magma?


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 9:07 PM
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237 et seq is very flirty.

Blume: I imagine Jarvis Cocker hiding in my shower.
ST: You'd mace him.
Blume: No, I'd do him.
ST: I should look more like Jarvis Cocker.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 9:18 PM
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68: oh, I was totally flirting with her. I just don't think she was aware of it.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 9:24 PM
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Virgin America's hip, funky aesthetic has a bit of a "trying too hard" feel to it (the purple lights are a bit much), but given the sorry experience that is most air travel these days, I appreciate the effort.

Girls next to me are looking through bridal mags, planning a wedding.

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Posted by: Otto von Bisquick | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 9:40 PM
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Where ya going, Otto? Running?


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 9:45 PM
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70: I mean, hell, you're on the internet.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 9:45 PM
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My ideal air travel experience would involve being completely unconscious between the moment I leave my apartment and the moment I arrive at my destination.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 9:50 PM
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73: assuming your destination is your apartment, may I recommend Air Blackberry Schnapps?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 9:52 PM
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Under "tries a bit too hard" add the "chat with the other sexy singles on the plane" feature. That you have identified how?

Or maybe I just have no plane game.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 9:53 PM
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73: That coincides with mine, though I'd kind of like to have the view outside the window filmed for me, because I enjoy it.

Of course, that also describes my ideal dentist visit.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 9:54 PM
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73 describes my ideal life experience.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 9:55 PM
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76: your dentist has a nice view?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 9:55 PM
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They could try harder by adding Newark to their list of airports.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 9:56 PM
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Or Philadelphia. I'm not picky.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 9:56 PM
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Seat-to-seat chat is such a bad idea. "Make your kid shut the fuck up!" "I can smell that sandwich from five rows back, you bastard!"


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 10:00 PM
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78: The view of their chin and throat as they lean over you is always pleasant. I'd love to memorialize it.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 10:02 PM
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73: Amen! I just did the Los Angeles to Miami and back within a few days horribleness. Next time I pay the extra for non-stop.


Posted by: Biohazard | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 10:09 PM
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So far I'm the only one to show up in this plane's chat room. The girl directly in front of me was pretty cute, but I think that if I were to invite her to chat by seat number rather than just, say, talking to her, she'd probably be creeped out.

2.2 Mbps down, .23 up, BTW.

I'm on SFO-SEA. Going to screw around and enjoy being away from lab for a day and then, on Saturday, try to run a faster than I ran before.


Posted by: Otto von Bisquick | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 10:20 PM
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Oh, and you can buy a $5 West Coast carbon offset from the inflight store if you want to assuage your guilt before you even land.


Posted by: Otto von Bisquick | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 10:23 PM
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on Saturday, try to run a faster than I ran before.

Enigmatic, as befits the airborne.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 10:24 PM
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Maybe someday you too will join the jet age, Sifu, and then you will understand.


Posted by: Otto von Bisquick | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 10:29 PM
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Seattle is such a nice place to visit. Then, so is SF. Wait, why do I live on this coast, anyway?


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 10:31 PM
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Wait, why do I live on this coast, anyway?

self abnegation?


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 10:37 PM
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Distressingly on-topic, but Heebie are you saying the vasectomy discussion was cut short?

Though I am of course certain it's not the length of the discussion but the quality of the discourse that really matters.


Posted by: Doug | Link to this comment | 06-25-09 11:15 PM
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14: yes, "she's sleeping with other people as well" was my first assumption.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 2:31 AM
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91: I think irrational fear/male genital fetishism is a much simpler explanation. I know dozens of guys who would balk at vasectomy simple because of the fear of sharp objects near their junk and a mystical attachment to fertility as essential to manhood.

Open relationships are far rarer than are men with stupid issues about their balls.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 6:20 AM
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They kicked me out of the Acute Rehab ward a week before my doctors thought I should go, and before I could walk.

Look on the bright side: At least we don't have socialized medicine, with rationing and all.

I hope things go smoothly - pain sucks.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 6:24 AM
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22: People always hinted to me that there was some downside to wearing pants made entirely out of scissors, but I could never figure out what it was. Now I know.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 6:59 AM
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92: who said anything about open relationships? If you mean "relationships where at least one person is at some point non-monogamous" I think they're running at north of 50%. If you mean "relationships where at least one person is at some point non-monogamous and the other person knows and approves" then that's a bit rarer.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 7:10 AM
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"relationships where at least one person is at some point non-monogamous"

Careful of those tranny hookers. Once in a while they turn stabby.

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_12690664

And, we found him/her hiding under an old mattress in a back yard, not in a shed.


Posted by: Teddy Roosevelt | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 7:56 AM
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Look on the bright side: At least we don't have socialized medicine, with rationing and all.

Speaking of which, I thought this son of a bitch was supposed to be on our side:

But the well-insured happen to include virtually all the people making the key decisions about health-care reform -- members of Congress and their staffs, the White House staff, Washington journalists, and so on. These people's fears that they would lose the right to "choose my own doctor" (code for getting treatment with all the bells and whistles) helped kill Hillary Clinton's attempt to reform health care in the early 1990s. Fear of rationing could kill Obamacare for the same reason.
Whether or not this makes sense is a question of taste, not policy.

Jesus. And just what the fuck does that mean, "question of taste, not policy"?


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 10:21 AM
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96:

It was unclear why the man was wearing women's clothing, or why the two were in the room together, though there did not seem to be signs of forced entry

What about consensual entry?


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 10:24 AM
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I just got out of minor surgery, the first time I've had anything like it without someone experienced with hospitals and medicine running interference and generally playing wingman. What a bunch of stupid crap they throw at you! I learned yesterday that they wanted to sedate me, which means I can't drive myself home. Of course there's a $240 fee for canceling less than 48 hours before surgery (and they only do the pre-op interview after it's too late to cancel, the assholes), so I either had to scramble to ask a favor from someone who would have to take a day off (using up some of their meager vacation time) or eat the $240. My solution was to give the doctor a bunch of shit until he agreed to do the procedure under local only, which turned out to be just fine, about as painful as digging out a splinter.

Saved the insurance company some money (not that it's going to come off my deductable, of course), got the surgery, back home waiting for the local to finish wearing off so I can get and accurate read on the pain before diving into the percocet.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 10:58 AM
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Kobe!


Posted by: CJB | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 12:30 PM
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toglosh: sorry to hear that, heal fast!


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 12:36 PM
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politicalfootball, that is a really crappy piece. The reasoning in it sucks--even before you get to the line about taste.

And honestly, I have no idea what that means.

Here there is much less to debate. Cheaper treatment means less treatment: fewer tests, fewer surgeries, fewer drugs
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Probably fewer surgeries, but possibly less expensive drugs and less intrusive cheaper tests might be developed if teh incentives are right. Under FFS medicine they get paid more for offering more tests.

The whole defensive medicine is such a canard. (I have heard a couple of things that I thought were not evil Republican talking points on malpractice reform. Specifically, the records should be anonymized and not kept secret by legal agreement and there ought to be ways to compensate more people more efficiently since so few go to trial.)

The Washington Post is so much worse than the NY Times.


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And honestly, I have no idea what that means.

It means they either don't know what they are talking about, or are pushing an agenda. There are definitely options, as you point out, for reducing the cost of treatment without reducing the standard of treatment.


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Sorry that should have been " I have no idea what that line about 'whether or not this makes sense is a question of taste, not policy" means.


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oh, my misreading I think.


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This may have pissed me off enough to write a letter to the editor.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 1:17 PM
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Open relationships are far rarer than are men with stupid issues about their balls.

Or their dog's balls, even.


Posted by: Hamilton-Lovecraft | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 1:18 PM
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Or their dog' truck's balls, even.


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Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 1:22 PM
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Soup is right that what they say about the cost of treatment is bizarre, especially if they mean something like overall expenditures.

A pathologist I know recently said that "To be brutally frank a great deal of what anatomic pathologists do, and bill for, needn't be done at all. There is very little to be gained from putting through tissue on gangrenous legs, hernia sacs, DJD, placentas from normal deliveries which are grossly normal. To go further, most uteri could be done simply with a careful gross evaluation, as could tonsils (especially from kids, and most from adults). Not every bone marrow needs flow and cytogenetics."


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 1:24 PM
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Yglesias is taking his game to a whole new level (with an assist from Ryan M. Powers)

That is hilariously bad.


Posted by: CJB | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 1:24 PM
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Cheaper treatment means less treatment: fewer tests, fewer surgeries, fewer drugs

Like the pointless sedation the goddamn doctor wanted to give me this morning, for example. Also probably a bit less of the crap they sent home with me, like enough gauze to wrap a mummy. The little postcard in a printed envelope welcoming me to the hospital was a nice touch, wasting not just money and trees, but also the five seconds it took me to locate a trash can (is there anyone who would take something like that home? I can't imagine those things have an average lifespan of longer than a minute after they are given to the patient).

Pain meds definitely wearing off now. Right on schedule.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 1:25 PM
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Moreover, hospitals and surgeons fequently do extra imaging, because they can't get the old test and they can bill for it anyway. I was seen at MGH once and the doctor did an extra TSH test once, not because it had been a long time since I'd had one, but because she couldn't manually insert the paper records that I gave her. Only tests done at MGH can be in MGH's computer. A total waste until we have thyroid tests that are as cheap as diabetic testing supplies.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 1:28 PM
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108: I was in the process of making an udder for my wife's truck when we divorced. I still think it's a great idea, but I don't have a truck, and my car is too low slung for an udder.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 1:28 PM
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my car is too low slung for an udder

...laydeez.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 1:29 PM
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109, 111: I really don't understand the people he works for. It seems clear that he can't be educated on the proofreading front, and they've decided he's worth paying anyway. That's fine, and a perfectly reasonable decision. But why isn't it worth routing his posts past someone else before they go up -- I'm not talking about serious editing, just enough to fix the real blunders like this?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 1:32 PM
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just enough to fix the real blunders like this

I'm beginning to believe it's performance art.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 1:34 PM
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110: One of the problems is that if you build the equipment, people want to use it. There is a screwy incentive structure behind all of this which ends up with over- and under-utilization problems in US healthcare, at the same time.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 1:35 PM
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just enough to fix the real blunders like this

I can't even imagine how he put up the post without noticing it. He somehow managed to take a screen shot and then post it without ever even glancing at it?


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116: Surely it's considered a patina of rustic charm, to cut the aura of ivy-league weenie or something.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 1:36 PM
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Wow, two posts and a bunch of snarky comments later, he still hasn't fixed it.


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 1:36 PM
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MY might be a bot. Becks?


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 1:37 PM
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MY might be a bot. .... laydeez.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 1:38 PM
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I used to like the yggles, but his persistent typos and refusal to engage his commenters has dropped him pretty far down on my daily blog reading.


Posted by: dob | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 1:39 PM
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Wow, two posts and a bunch of snarky comments later, he still hasn't fixed it.

Does he ever fix anything? It's not just typos, he can get substantive factual information wrong, be promptly corrected in comments, and never do anything about it.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 1:43 PM
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125: no, i don't think he does.

write-only blagging.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 1:44 PM
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Does he ever fix anything?

Yes, which makes the decisions of what not to fix even more interesting.


Posted by: Criminally Bulgur | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 1:49 PM
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I'm watching the Waxman-Markey bill debate on C-SPAN, and it's probably doing bad things to my blood pressure. Couldn't we have some sort of safeguard against congresspeople blatantly lying?

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Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 1:50 PM
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Couldn't we have some sort of safeguard against congresspeople blatantly lying?

Don't be ridiculous.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 1:51 PM
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Speech or Debate Clause says no. Sorry.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 1:51 PM
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Couldn't we have some sort of safeguard against congresspeople blatantly lying?

Wouldn't leave them much to do, apparently.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 1:57 PM
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Fascinatingly, a little-analyzed subclause prohibits Yglesias from fixing his typos.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 1:57 PM
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refusal to engage his commenters

be promptly corrected in comments

I've never seen any convincing evidence that he's even aware that there are comments to his posts.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 1:59 PM
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I've never seen any convincing evidence that he's even aware that there are comments to his posts.

IIRC, there was some post once where he said something like "there's a new system where responses from me in the comments will be displayed in a special format, see the comments section for an example", and then no such comment appeared in the comments section.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 2:02 PM
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Sometimes he solicits comments about what to post.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 2:03 PM
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Not only have I not seen comment 135, but I also find it unconvincing.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 2:04 PM
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And 134 sounds too much like an urban legend for me to place any stock in it. 133 stands.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 2:05 PM
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Speech or Debate Clause says no. Sorry.

It says they can't be arrested, right? But surely there could be some sort of, I don't know, official fact-checking, or big blinking sign saying "LIAR!" that could go off at appropriate times.


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138: I sometimes think nearly all footage of political debate would benefit from a mystery science theatre 3000 treatment with debunkers in the foreground.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 2:09 PM
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139: Or Beavis and Butthead.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 2:12 PM
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Not only have I not seen comment 135, but I also find it unconvincing

See here and here .


Posted by: James B. Shearer | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 2:24 PM
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141: La la la, I can't read you!!!


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 2:38 PM
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109: It's still there!

I mean, obviously, at this point it's not coming down. But still.

Crazy.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 3:06 PM
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"Why yes, John Boehner, you are giving me a clear idea of why I think Congress is out of touch! But, um, not how you think."


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 4:31 PM
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...and I don't understand House protocol at all. Boehner was given two and a half minutes, used over an hour, then Waxman asks how much time Boehner took and is told "he used the customary amount of time allotted"?


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 4:37 PM
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NPR just now broadcast a selection of Michael Jackson fans from all around the world singing snippets of their favorite MJ songs. It was horrible, but also pretty damn touching.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 5:18 PM
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Waxman-Markey passed! In many ways it objectively sucks, but here's hoping it signals the US is finally willing to take action, and makes a difference at Copenhagen....


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 5:29 PM
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145:Each side of the aisle is allotted a fixed amount of time, to be distributed by each side's floor leaders as they like. This can be 50 different speakers, or it can be one, usually the floor leader.
I think Boehner is the default floor leader. The term may be wrong. It may all be wrong, but this is how I remember it.

If, as you say, one speaker used most of the alloted Republican time, that probably means that the other Republicans did not want to be on TV arging against the bill. Everybody insisted on their three minutes for the Clinton impeachment. This dynamic can be a little interesting.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 06-26-09 5:33 PM
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148 cont:The 2 1/2 minutes would be the time Boehner could talk before a Democrat could ask him to yield, to be subtracted from Republican time.
If a Democrat doesn't ask, or if the Democrats have no more time, he can go on.

Clinton impeachment was the last time I watched any C-Span, I think.


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