Re: It's his fucking turn; he wants to fucking know

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You fuckers are reticent, you know that? Reticent.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 02-19-10 3:00 PM
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I don't know nothin' 'bout no meet-ups, but I do know that nobody could rock this outfit better than nosflow.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 02-19-10 3:03 PM
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Maybe we just don't know. I don't know. I would even say that I just don't know. So it is just that I say nothing.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 02-19-10 3:03 PM
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Eh, I don't dig shirts and jackets with graphics like that.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 02-19-10 3:04 PM
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But the arm jacket!


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 02-19-10 3:05 PM
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2: Surprisingly enough, it's the headgear that's stopping me short on that one.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 02-19-10 3:05 PM
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Oh, the sleeve on the jacket is ok, as these things go. We're familiar with footy pajamas, why not glovey blazers?


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 02-19-10 3:08 PM
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The heart-and-lines crap just gives it that vaguely emo, threadless rip-off look, crossed with any number of douchy shirts.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 02-19-10 3:11 PM
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Best blogger ever.


Posted by: David | Link to this comment | 02-19-10 3:14 PM
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Also best commenter ever.


Posted by: David | Link to this comment | 02-19-10 3:14 PM
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That outfit makes a bold statement, but it's as ugly as sin. And far too busy for New York.

What time is this meetup?


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 02-19-10 3:46 PM
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My calendar says 7pm? Is that right?


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 02-19-10 4:47 PM
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I quite like the heart bit, and the cock is very funny. But wtf is that growth on his head?


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 02-19-10 4:48 PM
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Where?


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 02-19-10 6:03 PM
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Here.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 02-19-10 6:31 PM
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That's in Brooklyn.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 02-19-10 8:20 PM
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Yes, it is.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02-19-10 8:32 PM
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Don't worry, it's very easy to get to, virtually every subway line possible will put you right next to the bar - you've got the 2,3, 4,5, B,D, M, N,Q,R and both the C and the G are only an extra five minutes walk, plus the LIRR for any Long Island based folks. And it's only two or three stops from Manhattan.


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 02-19-10 8:44 PM
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Yeah, I'll be there around 7pm. Woo, meet-up!


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 02-19-10 9:32 PM
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I can be there whenever.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 02-19-10 9:43 PM
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I'll try to be there around 7 too. I probably won't stay very late, since I'll need to catch a train back.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02-19-10 9:44 PM
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I have to miss the meetup -- I'm in Utah for my grandmother's funeral. (It was, as an uncle said tonight at the viewing, about time.) Sorry to miss everyone.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 02-19-10 10:40 PM
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Sorry to hear it, Bave. Condolences on your loss.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02-19-10 10:55 PM
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Yes, condolences Dave. Even when it's "about time," a loss is still a loss. Hope your are enjoying time and memories with the rest of the family.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 02-19-10 10:59 PM
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Er, Bave. Sorry about that.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 02-19-10 11:00 PM
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Sorry to hear that. A grandaunt who I really liked died the other week. She had been in bad shape for a while, but still... So not good. Though when my grandmother died, I have to admit I wasn't sad at all. Alzheimer's had killed the person I loved long before her physical death.


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 02-20-10 8:48 AM
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My probability of attendance at ~85%. Given the likely age distribution, I'll pretend I'm the chaperon.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 02-20-10 11:00 AM
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Sweet. New people!


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 02-20-10 11:09 AM
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To corrupt!


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 02-20-10 11:12 AM
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Headed out of the house now, but I'll see y'all at 7!


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 02-20-10 12:14 PM
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I just went past the place in Google Earth's Street View and yelled "Get off the lawn" at the guy in the orange hat. (He's not there in Google Maps' Street View. I thought they used the same info but apparently not.)


Posted by: Biohazard | Link to this comment | 02-20-10 12:36 PM
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Okay, I'm at the restaurant.

I don't see anybody.

Hell with it, I'm leaving, and driving back to Boston.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 02-20-10 4:44 PM
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Lurker here, wondering if I can expect that most folks will still be there around 9.


Posted by: Mr. Blandings | Link to this comment | 02-20-10 4:49 PM
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32: I call shenanigans. I have it on good authority that someone's already there.

33: Seems likely. We're just setting out now.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 02-20-10 4:50 PM
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Wow, I drive fast.

How dare you accuse me of shenanigans, Stanley!

Somebody should drunken-liveblog this, as ever.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 02-20-10 4:52 PM
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I'm in the back corner, sitting by the thing. Come find me.


Posted by: Otto von Bisquick | Link to this comment | 02-20-10 5:05 PM
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I'm not in the back corner. I was unable to make it (or, unable to leave early enough to justify going into the city, given how relatively early I'd have to leave Brooklyn before turning into a pumpkin).


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 02-20-10 6:20 PM
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Not enough substance on Unf, DS says. I have been quiet fo like days, but both American teams won in curling, so hey, the mind twists like a worm on a bic.

1) A double cable feature tonight for me, The Reader followed immediately by The Baader-Meinhof Complex, and my first though? "Thus we see what the bourgeois liberals will accept and allow and even assist; followed by what bourgeois liberals will violently suppress.

2) Evidence:Paul Rosenberg says Obama has earned his "Hitler moustache" Links to Balkin and Greenwald in the comments, who are just very upset, very very upset, that John Yoo may practice law and teach another generation of students. They are just so mad. Hilzoy is no longer around, but I am sure she would also be upset, maybe even a little at Obama.

And the torture was done, the perpetrators survived and propered, and it will happen again, and the above will be very unhappy and write nasty blog posts.

My heart and mind is with the Red Brigade.

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Posted by: b | Link to this comment | 02-20-10 6:20 PM
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Were here, no one we know is dead or naked yet. But it is early


Posted by: JpPbpl Storm crow | Link to this comment | 02-20-10 7:00 PM
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I'm less than five miles from Gary Coleman's house; nowhere near Brooklyn. Thanks for the condolences upthread.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 02-20-10 7:23 PM
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And the torture was done, the perpetrators survived and propered, and it will happen again, and the above will be very unhappy and write nasty blog posts.

And all you'll do is be very unhappy and write nasty blog comments and dream about the Red Brigade, huh?


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 02-20-10 7:53 PM
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There is talk of karaoke. Lurkers abound.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 02-20-10 7:53 PM
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Dead to neb being a different matter entirely.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 02-20-10 7:53 PM
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Why isn't there more drunken liveblogging? (I'm starting to wish I had gone, but I didn't feel up to another train ride after an eight-hour trip home earlier today.)


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 02-20-10 8:04 PM
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41:I certainly am not going to elicit a premature and preemptive visit from the suits.

And you are absolutely right, the authorities have nothing to worry about with me, and never will. I am just a blowhard on the Internets, indulging in nostalgic fantasies.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 02-20-10 8:35 PM
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You must be the drunken comment you wish to see on the blog, dork.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 02-20-10 8:36 PM
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Two is still here.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 02-20-10 8:57 PM
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That was Teo.


Posted by: Jp stormcrow | Link to this comment | 02-20-10 9:02 PM
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45: Perhaps Balkin, Greenwald, Hilzoy, et. al. are also not risking a premature and preemptive visit from the suits.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 02-20-10 9:37 PM
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49: But perhaps the people contending they're not worth a visit by the suits are just saying that 'cause they're really worthy of a suited visit.

(Near as I can tell, the suits don't much work on inspiration and intuition, they work on perseverance and perspiration. So, being clever doesn't buy much. They'll get around to you anyway, Bob.)


Posted by: Biohazard | Link to this comment | 02-20-10 9:44 PM
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DO KARAOKE I implore you.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 02-20-10 9:49 PM
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Hey Sifu, but can you send me an e-mail? I can't find your address (maybe I'm just dense and it's somewhere really obvious on the Poorman site).

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Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 02-20-10 10:07 PM
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We went to Famous Park Slope Karaoke Venue and only Stanley and eekbeat got on the mic (with [possibly unwanted?] help from me) and Stanley got yelled at by KJ for using the mic as a percussive instrument with his beer.

Lurker Mr. Blandings and I beat Mike D and Jackmormon 2/3 at pool.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 12:08 AM
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It was a Weezer tune, the one about alcoholism. I could look it up.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 12:30 AM
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Say it Ain't So.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 12:31 AM
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My head hurts, my pants smell like beer and I don't love Jesus.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 6:01 AM
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55. It ain't so. What?


Posted by: OFE | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 6:02 AM
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Surprise front window birdwatching - a couple bluejays (which we don't see much of) and a small woodpecker (which I've never seen in this neighborhood).

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Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 6:45 AM
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55: Huh. I never noticed what that song was about.

I always think Weezer is a bit more interesting than they are, because I think of Ween, but then I remember "Buddy Holly," which I really like, and they settle in as OK.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 6:50 AM
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53: so is Stormcrow over 90?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 7:37 AM
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That song title makes me think of Julie London. WHich is never a bad thing ...


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 7:41 AM
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Memory can be so strange; it makes me think of Buddy Holly.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 8:20 AM
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Over 90 where it counts, motherfucker lay...deez.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 9:15 AM
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A not explicitly revolutionary trolling

Curling visual coverage. We get closeups on the rock, either groundlevel front and rear of the shooter, or overheads of the sweepers and house. Rarely we get a shot from the house at a little above eye-level of sweepers and rock approaching the house.

But we never get the neatest most beautiful shot, at ground-level from the shooter's perspective, a long shot that shows the rock moving straight for x yards and then making it's curve or hook into the house. This would be magic, the magic of curling.

This obsession with closeups of people, even when it is only the tops of the heads of the sweepers, is a key to our modern corruption and decadent banality. Context must be kept as small, tight, personal as possible. Like identity politics.

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Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 10:14 AM
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I'm pretty sure the camera angles for curling are chosen so as to obscure the fact that there's a second shooter.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 10:31 AM
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The icy knoll.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 11:03 AM
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Good meetup, everyone!


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 11:34 AM
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We want more sordid details.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 11:35 AM
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Some people are never satisfied.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 11:39 AM
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At one point, a college buddy of mine showed up at the bar where we were. Stanley and eekbeat tried to convince them to come to karaoke with us. They told us they were coming, but did not.

Sordid!

Also, I didn't get stinking drunk, and am learning to pace myself better as old age affects my alcohol-absorption capabilities.

Sordid!

JM and teraz talked about living in Europe. I lectured obnoxiously about the 1740's. JP curses in casual conversation, which few NYers do, and which, frankly, I miss about non-NYC places. Teo was fun but left earlyish. JP, Mike D, and Lurker Blandings all (IIRC) bought me beers, which was kind of them. It was decided that Lurkers Sam and Blandings should comment more/at all. We all rotated around a lot. Everyone wished Bave had been there. I theorized that Flip showed up at the bar but left without introducing himself. We waved a little "RESERVED FOR: MUTOMBO" sign at everyone who came in the bar alone, just in case essear or Flippanter made it after all.

Sordid!


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 11:50 AM
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JP curses in casual conversation, which few NYers do

YMMV? You clearly know more NYers than I do, but I know more than a few, and the tendency toward cursing seems as variable among them as among any other population.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 11:54 AM
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Teo was fun but left earlyish.

Not earlyish enough to catch the 11:58 train, as it turned out, but I did manage to catch the 12:43 train. I got home at 2.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 11:55 AM
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There was much complaining about the half-hour walk to the other bar. I thought they'd be grateful for the exercise and fresh air but I was wrong.

And while some of us are intermittently decent at pool, we all suck horrifically at darts. Seriously, there was not one of us who had any consistency or control. But we didn't have any chalk to keep score anyway.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 11:56 AM
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I thought NYers, by stereotype, curse more in casual conversation than the rest of us.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 12:02 PM
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The last sentence of the second paragraph of Haig's obituary:
He knew, Reagan's aide Lyn Nofziger once said, that "the third paragraph of his obit" would detail his conduct in the hours after President Reagan was shot, on March 30, 1981.

The third paragraph:
That day, Secretary of State Haig wrongly declared himself the acting president. "The helm is right here," he told members of the Reagan cabinet in the White House Situation Room, "and that means right in this chair for now, constitutionally, until the vice president gets here." His words were taped by Richard V. Allen, then the national security adviser.

Freaky.


Posted by: beamish | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 12:03 PM
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71: It's maybe more of a class-marker here than other places? Or it's possible that in other places I've lived, I haven't hung out with the non-cursing class? I've become quite aware of how it codes here in a self-conscious way. But I also didn't learn a lot of things about class markers until I moved here, so YMMV. Like, at my job at the spa my first summer here, I learned that it wasn't that I was physically fatter than the other counter girls that was offensive; it was that I had breasts. Could I please do something like buy a more squishing-effect-type bra, because I'm really bringing down the class of the establishment, etc.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 12:04 PM
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75: I recommend Phil Nugent's Haig obituary.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 12:10 PM
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74: Ich bin ein fucking New Yorker.

73: There was much complaining about the half-hour walk to the other bar.

I was a bit surprised the group managed to come back together there after it briefly broke into four different groups near the end of that stroll. Thought things might go Nick and Norah's Infinite Playlist at that point.

Off to the brother and sister-in-law's place.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 12:17 PM
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77: thanks. That was good.

I liked Eric Loomis's note: "I literally cannot think of a single good thing to say about Haig."


Posted by: beamish | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 12:19 PM
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I slunk off to take the opportunity to pee at my own apartment, rather than sit in a stranger's seat-puddle yet again (OMG evil stupid people please stop doing this you disgust me).


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 12:24 PM
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If there is a class of Pittsburgher that doesn't curse, I haven't met a member of it.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 1:38 PM
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JP's casual cursing at the meetup was quite impressive, I must say.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 1:39 PM
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Is Haig a great example of the banality of evil? Boring, ridiculous, and terrifying is how I remember him.

I also remember the line near the end of Lives of Others, something like "...that people such as you held power."

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Following on 64, and thinking on vs Last House on the Left (remake) which was last night's bedtime movie, I came across a phrase by Haneke "...clarifying distance in place of violating closeness..." but modern media, entertainment, and social interaction as "violating" is...well I won't go there. Not with that word.

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Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 1:59 PM
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Sorry about 83 html fail

...Funny Games vs LHotL...


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 2:01 PM
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Speaking of casual cursing, what's the title of this thread a reference to?


Posted by: beamish | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 2:05 PM
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But we never get the neatest most beautiful shot, at ground-level from the shooter's
perspective, a long shot that shows the rock moving straight for x yards and then making it's curve or
hook into the house. This would be magic, the magic of curling.

Wait for the first-person-shooter style video curling.

-- E, too obtuse to think Pacific Standard would be on the right coast.


Posted by: Econolicious, doom generation | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 2:20 PM
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82 - we need examples of impressive casual cursing!


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 3:15 PM
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Nice job, Bridgeplate. Keep up the good work.


Posted by: beamish | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 3:22 PM
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87: You know, just fucking swearing and shit.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 3:26 PM
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what's the title of this thread a reference to?

I assume this: http://www.worldlingo.com/ma/enwiki/en/TKM


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 3:34 PM
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Wow. So it turns out that teraz kurwa my is the master of casual swearing. Even better work.


Posted by: beamish | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 3:47 PM
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At abut 15 minutes into The Reader, I started to tear up at the wonder of the multiple readings made available by great art and literature. Class, sex, art, power, history, innocence. I am sure the book would be different, tho maybe not better. Winslet is a force.

About the only meta-line provided, early in the movie, a guide to the perplexed, is "character is determined by secrets."

This relates to 64 and 83.

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Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 6:39 PM
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You know, you can always delete me like the ToS.

The Reader got irritatingly complicated by the end. Bad woman kept her secrets, good man freed himself with openness. All is well.

Panopticon my ass. I need a social theory that explains a society where we all enthusiastically put webcams in our bathrooms.

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Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 8:34 PM
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After reading some of the discussion and controversy, and presuming nobody cares about spoliers, and understanding that multiple interpretations are available:

1) Hanna Schmitz remains a monster unto death, and her very death is attempt to maintain dominance and control.

2) The illiteracy (German feigned ignorance of the Holocaust) is very obviously a means to power, a self-recognized though publicly hidden shame to hide a greater private guilt, even and especially from herself.

Ignorance can be a tool and a weapon. See the Teabaggers. I should be reading the social theorists who probably covered this ground twenty years ago.

3) This method of admitting (or hiding) one flaw to hide (from) another greater crime, and the public's gleeful acceptance of this shallow tactic, irritates me to no end in modern society. "Bush lied about WMD" and the questions stop. Greenspan says he overestimated market rationality.

4) And in the most general terms, this public self-shaming may be being used to distract from our complicity in globalized imperial post-capitalism. Oh look, did someone hurt the feelings of the disabled? And in Afghanistan, two empty shells of buildings...oh never mind.

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Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 02-21-10 9:40 PM
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Bob's estranged brother John.

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Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 02-22-10 4:16 AM
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I slunk off to take the opportunity to pee at my own apartment, rather than sit in a stranger's seat-puddle yet again (OMG evil stupid people please stop doing this you disgust me).

I'm not trying to be flippant, and people who leave puddles on seats are indeed evil and stupid, but why not just wipe off the seat before sitting on it rather than sit down blindly, hoping for the best?


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 02-22-10 1:10 PM
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96: One forgets, or it does not look wet.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 02-23-10 12:34 PM
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Urine is usually sterile. There's a good chance that pee is helping keep that seat clean.


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