and signed off that the addition is great
I'm going to assume that he did this by writing a giant "JRoth sez it's great" on the walls with spray paint.
So now, because you don't want to brag, JRoth isn't going to get any work, and he's going to starve to death. Is it really worth it to kill a man for the sake of your own modesty, heebie?
I thought about just putting pictures on Flickr and keeping quiet about the whole thing out here, but then I couldn't do the promotional part, which I want to do.
I am pretty sure I will do a whole promotional post soon, but I just needed to clear the air first and get my angst out of the way.
Doesn't JRoth have children? I think years of American politics have taught us that everything is permitted as long as we do it because "Think of the children".
Can't you combine promoting JRoth with deprecating yourself? Contrast your poorly thought-out original ideas with the brilliance of JRoth's plans.
Obviously JRoth screwed the whole thing up. Heebie doesn't want to trash him publicly but feels that some acknowledgment of the situation must be made, given her previous posts.
This will be my working assumption until I see the rave, with pictures.
rave! somebody besides me has got to be willing to look like a privileged asshole!
everything is permitted as long as we do it because "Think of the children"
Everything other than masturbation.
I've been getting excited on Mondays and then not wanting to bug you about the next update, so I'm out here excited if you need an audience.
heebie, I promise to say that it looks shitty and you spent too much, no matter how it looks. Does that make it easier?
10: I think if you removed the gold plating around the rim, people would stop saying that.
somebody besides me has got to be willing to look like a privileged asshole
You could recruit on craigslist?
Just ask the commentariat to collaborate on writing the post that gets you through this difficult situation gracefully. Alternatively, brag; I'd love to see photos.
14: yeah, but why bother with bleaching that just has to be re-done? gold is non-reactive, paper-thin--it's got it all!
16: too easy, man. good night all...
The way to avoid feeling like a privileged asshole is to hang out with even bigger and more privileged assholes! For example, if I told Heebie that the addition looked "quite nice, for such a small house, creative use of space and a small budget, and good practice for your starter home"* then everyone would start to hate me and Heebie would come across just fine. I am willing to step up to the plate!
*in reality, I haven't even looked at the photos, the rendering looked awesome and JRoth is great.
Just tell yourself that we gush over the accomplishments and good fortune of people who we think need it the most.
What happened with that crummy subcontractor?
23: Oh, good. It came off as a bit cross.
20 - *start* to hate you?
Heebie, just say it's a friend's house.
No one's going to be jealous anyway, it might burn down soon.
21, 25: Well he can't do it himself.
Heebie's modest and ill-thought-through idea as interpreted by JRoth on the same budget.
Just embrace it, heebie: you're a job creator.
I'm on tenterhooks, I need to see the pictures!
But you'd be bragging about JRoth! Bragging about fabulous friends is a good thing!
Also, I need to get moving on getting my shit together so JRoth can give me some architectural greatness to brag about.
In fact, maybe I should just say that, while I'd like to hire JRoth, I've been hesitating to finalize the deal because heebie's sudden and il-explained radio silence on the project has me concerned that perhaps there are quality issues.
28: Actually, I kind of prefer Heebie's.
"References available upon false modesty."
rave! somebody besides me has got to be willing to look like a privileged asshole!
She is just waiting to say "Nice addition. Did I mention that I have 5 or 6 orgasms a night?"
Heebie, you need to put up the pics! I've already arranged for Frank Gehry and Ferran Adria to critique JRoth's architecture! Zombie Le Corbusier may also comment if his busy schedule allows.
I am a little pissed at JRoth. A building project ordinarily results in a husband or wife hiring me.
34.1: Heh, so do I, if those are the choices.
I look forward to seeing the pictures, if they are forthcoming and it's not unbecoming in some way to post them. I'd hire JRoth if (a) I had any money, and (b) owned a house. I mean, have you seen his blog comments here and there?! A clear thinker if I've ever seen one!
So all it takes to bring a commenter back is for someone in the Unfoggedariat to hire him, and the rest to sing his praises? Does anyone know what Ogged does for a living?
34. Yes, I agree that Chatsworth would be a little impractical unless you're willing to put up with a hoard of tourists wandering through it all the time, but it was state of the art in its day.
37: As one of my profs said, it's not the building project that causes problems; it's that the couple thought that the building project would solve problems. Architects need to say, "You don't need an architect, you need marriage counseling."
I haven't read the thread, but heebie, I have totally (really, no joke, been checking your personal blog lots) on tenterhooks. Bring out the damn pictures!
I agree that Chatsworth would be a little impractical unless you're willing to put up with a hoard of tourists wandering through it all the time renting out the addition as a porn set.
JRoth, are you implying that there are problems that physical solutions cannot solve? I don't like that kind of talk.
Sorry, I meant to say "you need marriage counseling and some nice, tall, masonry parapets."
My advice from over the years would be, "Don't undertake major work on your house unless you both feel very confident about the relationship and neither of you mind too much if it goes through a rocky patch for a while."
The idea of using this to fix a relationship is insane.
I wanted to put up a small shed for storage of a bike and some gardening tools, but they said no. I said I could make it blend with the surroundings and they said no. I suggested I could get an architect to submit plans and they still said no. Finally, I suggested I could add solar panels to make it green. They still said no. It turns out Giant Eagle wants to the whole parking lot for its customers.
H-G, I have a list of owner-requested modifications to the design about which you're welcome to self-deprecate...
BTW, has Jammies set up his drum kit yet? I'll admit that I didn't give the acoustics of that a lot of thought....
s/b "wants to keep the whole parking lot"
The idea of using this to fix a relationship is insane.
Couples also have children to fix relationships. And insane is, indeed, the correct term for that.
I'm pretty sure that BOGF advocated getting a dog for that reason as well, but, as with her other efforts, it didn't work.
Of course it didn't work. People can't have children with a dog.
has Jammies set up his drum kit yet? I'll admit that I didn't give the acoustics of that a lot of thought.
I admit something: The computerized mock-up that heebie showed us a while ago had an open upstairs loft area, which is of course awesome for family unity and children's joy and generational memories down the line, but I did wonder about acoustics. I forget now, though, where Jammie's jam area was supposed to be. I may not be remembering the computer-generated sketch very clearly.
Obviously we would like to see pictures, but I think this pressure on Heebie and Jammies and JRoth should probably not be so intense.
Drum area's in a corner by the windows, opposite the laundry area. Honestly, it'll be echoey as hell, but I gather it's for practice more than performance. Probably need those clear shield things they use in small venues for that.
Heebie! We could have sold Jammies on that interior shelf thing for its acoustic benefits! Nuts.
Nobody's talking about being in tents, parsimon. It's a proper house addition.
There is a very strange acoustical moment, in the old house hallway, about two feet away from the border with the addition. You feel like your head is ringing.
I think it's the high ceilings that make me feel like I'm bragging. I associate high ceilings with super poshness. On the other hand, good lord do I love the high ceilings. It's so lovely in there.
At any rate, now that I've cleared my misgivings, the post will be within the next day or so.
57:
What is the appropriate post count to deem the project Unfogged-approved?
More than 200 comments?
Oh, if you connect your esteem to the thread comment length, then you cause it to be hijacked within the first 1.5 comments. It's futile.
Does anyone know what Ogged does for a living?
I know what he used to do for a living. I believe his current situation is best described as "kept man" (some would say "stay-at-home dad").
Are we talking about the library ladder to nowhere here? Because that amuses me.
55: Of course it is. I've been reflecting on this, with due conscience, and since I don't have kids myself, I'm mostly hearkening back to the remodeling work my parents had done back when, and how the changes formed our family life going forward, as they say. I'm thinking now that it's not JRoth's responsibility to see to it that the Heebie-Jammies family is happy for ever after, keeping in mind all possible developments and so on. That's all. You bear in mind everything that you can, and that's about it.
61: I thought he was living off the royalties he gets everytime someone comments here. If only we could all stop ourselves from commenting he would be forced to come back!
59: And what a fine job of it he does.
the library ladder to nowhere
Yeah.
I really don't remember the computer-generated sketch very well, but that puzzled me. I thought: children will fall off it. All the sound from up there will travel down, and sound will travel up. Maybe it needs some withdrawable/drawable screens up there, for privacy.
This is not a serious criticism, please! Just the first thought that crossed my mind.
I also totally don't understand how all that works with the rest of the house.
I sound like an ass, as though I'm taking issue with the design. I'm not. I just thought: little kids, lots of them. Ladder. Oh.
Eh, kids climb everything and take horrific falls constantly. Fortunately, they're designed to withstand the punishment.
I should have said the library ladder track to nowhere. The up/down direction is sensible. The left/right direction is humorous.
67: 20 or 30 years hence, they'll remember that one time that they spied on each other, or someone fell, or tried to climb silently up the ladder and was caught out, or whatever. I'm not knocking it.
61: I'm really glad to hear that -- glad that their finances permit it.
The library ladder is totally awesome! I should put photos in the pool of what we've done to our place, the most exciting part of which is buying a bed so we're no longer sleeping on mattresses on the floor. Also got the hideous, scary downstairs bathroom redone, but that used up all our money for the time being and we have to rebuild our savings and start round two. But that's not as exciting as heebie's house and completely different style-wise.
The idea of using this to fix a relationship is insane.
How about using it to heal a broken heart?
OP: Not that anyone had been on tenterhooks
Wasn't that someone's ex's girlfriend?
Jammie's jam area
Oh man, now I want JRoth to design a jam area for Rory!
You have plans?
Well, no. That's what I'd be hiring JRoth to produce!
75: If Jammies gets a jam area, doesn't Rory get a roar area?
I thought jam areas were in the basement with mason jars.
Rory would totally utilize a roar area. JRoth, can you design that?
And, please design a howling area for my kid so we can howl like wolves. Maybe open air on the roof with a view of the moon?
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit studying acoustics.
The big reveal is going to have to wait until I'm less beaten down by life. Maybe tomorrow night.
