Anyway, Star Trek V wasn't nearly as bad as I had been led to expect.
AIMHBP, I had to explain Star Trek II to my son because every time he complains about the Khan Academy homework, I go "Khaaaaan!"
With reference to Paddington 2, though, this might be of interest:
http://refugeehistory.org/blog/2017/11/15/an-immigration-lawyer-reviews-paddington-2-life-in-the-hostile-environment
I remember starting to read that before. I quickly came to the same conclusion as this time. It's long!
On the one hand this length means that I will never read it to the end. On the other hand, it is completely persuasive. If she can go on at that length on this topic, I feel it's safe to assume her assessment of the character of Captain Kirk on the original Star Trek series is correct.
If she can go on at that length on this topic, I feel it's safe to assume her assessment of the character of Captain Kirk on the original Star Trek series is correct.
I think this proves too much.
I don't remember if I said this in the earlier thread, but IMO it's not just the contrast with Spock. I think Picard in tNG made Kirk retroactively seem more macho and less thoughtful than he actually was.
I think this proves too much.
I can't decide if you are saying this proves I'm a fool, or it proves that I don't care that much about Star Trek.
Probably both.
I agree!
If she can go on at that length on this topic
I realized that if I really followed this rule, I would take for truth everything Ste /ven Den Be / ste wrote about the Gulf War.
12 is what I was going for. Rather than SDB, I thought about the Time Cube guy, but couldn't be bothered to look up his name or anything.
13: I actually took several minutes googling to figure out SDB's name, before then realizing I probably shouldn't write it out. But I guess that's what passes for an intellectual challenge for me these days.
I'm not usually in the habit of saying nice things about Tim Allen, but Galaxy Quest was pretty good.
On topic because I think some of peoples' views of Kirk are actually from Galaxy Quest.
I suffer from a very sexy learning disability. What do I call it, Kif?
[Sigh.] Sexlexia.
My bad for reposting the very same column, I see that I even participated in the thread without then taking the trouble to read the column linked in the OP back there.
6: So apparently there was a 300-comment Star Trek thread in which I didn't participate. This seems impossible. I will endeavor to make up for it now.
I'm basically onboard with the thesis of the linked article,* which correctly points out that Kirk was not the cad he is portrayed/satirized to be, but I think it gets a key thing wrong: It fails to reckon with sexual conventions of '60s television. By the media standards of the time, Kirk was irresistible to women, and took advantage of that. You had to be circumspect in conveying this on camera, but viewers at the time understood it.
Undiscovered Country goofs on this theme entirely appropriately when the Iman character kisses Kirk for no obvious reason, and McCoy responds, "What is it with you?"
Plus, Kirk's non-abusive treatment of women wasn't properly understood as wokeness. It was chivalry, which (I would argue) comes from a different, more patriarchal place.
*Okay. I only read the first half. Maybe she deals with this later.
I don't think you can assume Kirk's chivalry wasn't at least similar to wokeness. It's not like he's defending the ladies but wanting them to stay on Earth and raise his babies. He's treating women as equal partners who don't wear pants.
Riker, there was a guy who was all about the patriarchal place.
McCoy responds, "What is it with you?"
He's an obvious Incel, looking at Kirk and thinking about millimeters of bone he doesn't have that Kirk does.
One reason it bothers me when people bitch about Obama is that he's as close as we're likely to get to a President Jean-Luc Picard, which is what all right thinking people truly desire. I may have expressed this sentiment before.
Well he didn't shave his head did he?
24: Obama isn't my real dad.
I think it was David Langford who said that the Captain Picard/Dr Crusher relationship "always had a touch of Sergeant Wilson and Mrs Pike about it" and I've never been able to watch ST:TNG the same way since.
Your obscure British references are lost on normal people.
It's a reference to the BBC equivalent of "Band of Brothers".
29 what? NCOs in Shakespeare never have names. It's always just "a sergeant".
Does the BBC still drive around the country in vans detecting people who didn't pay the BBC license fee?
NCOs in Shakespeare never have names. It's always just "a sergeant".
Oh, come on, what about Pistol and Bardolph and all that lot in Henry V? You're not telling me they're officers. They are, as Pistol says, "base, common and popular".
You're not telling me those are real names.
Shakespeare wrote a lot of great plays, but their kind of dated. The new Voltron is what the kids are into now.
Desperately suppressing impulse to start writing Shakespearean Voltron pastiche based on concept of Shakespearean supermonarch formed from combination of Henry V, Henry IV Part 1, Henry V Part 2, Macbeth and King Lear.
19 reminds me of this comment I wrote back then, similarly after reading only the first half of the article. It's uncanny.
35: You're joking, but I've been struggling with it. I assume we're talking about the same Netflix series, which I started watching within the past month. I have fond memories of the original Voltron (or an original Voltron, I don't know which of the half-dozen shows came first, I saw the one with lions, not the other vehicles) despite only actually seeing like eight episodes of it. Stopped the first episode before finishing it. Then a friend of mine gushed to me about how much he liked it, so I finished the first episode and watched the second and maybe third, and it's still pretty dumb. They made all the characters into idiots, added pointless intra-team conflict, and each episode is at least half padding. Maybe this is just the rose-tinted glasses of nostalgia and I'd hate the original if I watched it again, but I don't think so. It killed my desire for a live-action Voltron movie.
I wasn't joking. 100% of the 12-year-old boys in my house watch it unironically. Thanks to iPads, I don't really know what it is about.
|| Certain Women is on Netflix. No one would confuse it with Voltron. |>
Although combining Laura Dern, Michelle Williams, Kristen Stewart, and Lily Gladstone gets you somewhere interesting.
I just decided I should know what Voltron is so I looked it up. Would I seem cool if I went around saying I'm a fan of the original GoLion and all these Voltron series are just crude ripoffs?
It has surprisingly little to do with electron-volts.
I only realized this second that Voltron and Ultron weren't the same word.
|| I always considered Judge Messitte a good draw. I still think so. |>
44: The emoluments case is going somewhere? Interesting.
OT: So did the Russians just accidentally drop the poison or did they try to cover their tracks by making another incident or what?
44-45: I've got zero knowledge here, but is there any reason to believe that plaintiffs can make a case that they have standing? (Does this ruling speak to that issue?)
48: This suit, filed by the attorneys general, cleared an initial hurdle in March. Back then, Messitte settled one legal question, ruling the plaintiffs had legal standing to sue the president in the first place.
Thank you! I suppose I could actually read the links ...
I posted a link to today's 52 page decision at the other place. It's well done. Denial of a motion to dismiss is not an appealable order, usually, but maybe the President will seek mandamus. Otherwise, there'll be discovery on how much money Trump makes when Kuwait, for example, throws a party at the hotel in DC, and there's a whole lot of stuff he doesn't want to talk about involved in that.
There was that mini-thread not long ago about whether folks wish Romney had won. I wonder if there are yet many rightwingers who regret Paula Jones winning her Supreme Court case.
Otherwise, there'll be discovery on how much money Trump makes when Kuwait, for example, throws a party at the hotel in DC, and there's a whole lot of stuff he doesn't want to talk about involved in that.
It really is a sign of how far standards have fallen that it takes a years of litigation to get that. A decent Congress would have demanded it.
Not one goddamned Khan* joke, you filthy reprobates?
Nor even one "But take, for example, Khan Noonien Singh, who is depicted as the reverse of Kirk's medal in both his canonical [pun averted] appearances: first, in his treatment of women, etc., etc."?
Come on, people nerds.
* KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!
54: Granted in part, but distinguished as a Khan Academy joke.
Vaguely OT, I used to joke that I wanted to study Space Law, but nobody else seemed to think this idea was as funny as I did. (Just to jokesplain: I'm not picturing boring treaties and stuff; I'm picturing lawyers lawyering but in space suits. In a floaty space courtroom.)
Remember that it only counts as SPACE COURT if the SPACE FLAG has gold trim.
You could have a literal rocket docket.
|| Local news, but it's starting to get national attention: an archivist and a bookstore owner stole $8 million of rare books from our library. |>
60: Moby linked to an article about a few days ago and we've already discussed it.
On the topic of local shame, have we discussed this yet? I was totally shocked that the arrest of Stormy Daniels turned out not to be part of a long-term Columbus Police investigation of human trafficking. The funniest part is that that Dispatch was scooped by the Fayette Advocate.
http://thefayetteadvocate.com/2018/07/25/whistleblower-provides-emails-that-show-stormy-daniels-arrest-was-pre-planned/
61.last: I did see that one. It's one of about 800 pieces of news in the past week that would have blown up huge except Trump keeps lowering the bar.
The book dealer in question sold some of those stolen items to a major rare book dealer in London who I've done business with. IMPO there's no way he didn't know.
I have a crackpot theory that the reason why Kirk got rewritten by popular culture was because in the original show he was treated as a sex object in a way that nowadays is reserved for women. He was always getting his shirt ripped, etc.
DO YOU EVEN WATCH MOVIES?
Okay but: "Caliban Book Store" as the name for a shop that cynically steals treasures of modern colonial culture from its trusting masters/benefactors? Credit where due.
67: Not really. I saw about two minutes of where you (or a different Chris) fought to "The Immigrant Song" before leaving to play Civ.
68: The reference was too literate for me.
DO YOU EVEN WATCH MOVIES? Isabelle Pasco seems pleasant enough to gaze at. But yes, Caliban was canonically the one with the grudge, not the books.
65: My theory: Since women were understood to have no agency, their interest in seducing Kirk was necessarily his achievement, and not their choice. Hence, he is a womanizer.
Kirk was such a womanizer that his VD was sufficient to reduce the population of an alien race.