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I'll start: Jammies got a job offer to be a geometry teacher at our local high school yesterday. This is a job he wants, so hooray!


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 7:24 AM
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Or maybe I should catch up on the threads below, since I've been AWOL for a few days.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 7:24 AM
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1: That's awesome! Congratulations, Jammies!


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 7:29 AM
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CoVID update: there was some speculation that the virus might have made the jump to humans from pangolins (eaten as bushmeat), and that its actual original host species might be a particular species of small ant that these pangolins fed on. But they got samples of the ants and found that the virus couldn't have survived in them. Because apparently they have tiny anty bodies.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 7:30 AM
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I thought it was solidly established as bat-origin.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 7:32 AM
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1: Great news, except that high school kids after kind of awful.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 7:34 AM
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I used up my megafaun distraction in the other thread.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 7:38 AM
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I'm drinking some kind of peanut milk. It's nice, but I suspect it could be used to fuel a truck.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 7:40 AM
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How can peanuts have milk when they are a legume and not a nut?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 7:45 AM
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8: I've switched to oat milk and it's pretty good. Seems easier on my stomach than dairy milk, and with about a thousandth of the environmental concerns. More drinkable for me than soy, too.

As for pointless distractions: the bad book podcast done by one of the MST3k hosts is now reading Moon People and it's just so hilariously, delightfully bad. Sometimes they pick ones that are depressingly bad (like Sean Penn's book), but this hits the sweet spot of being incomprehensible and naive yet oddly charming.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 7:47 AM
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Viruses are transmitted by insects but I have never heard of a virus that actually infects insects making the leap to mammals. The body temperature is way off, for one thing. I would think a virus that is adapted to replicate inside insect cells would find our bodies too hot, especially once we get a fever. But maybe that's an assumption.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 7:49 AM
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Yay for Jammies! I got nothing except this from the radio, from the Making the Best of a Bad Virus department: In the Washington DC building where the caller's son worked, there are now signs in the elevators informing riders that due to coronavirus the elevators are now voice activated. However, there is no change, the elevators are not actually voice activated.


Posted by: chill | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 7:50 AM
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I believe the children are the future.
Hold them close and let them learn that a...
hypotenuse is the longest side.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 8:14 AM
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It is entirely in the spirit of Station Eleven that the first confirmed Covid-infected dog in Hong Kong is a Pomeranian.


Posted by: Ume | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 8:17 AM
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Pomerania has a long proud history at the forefront of totally pointless world-historical suffering.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 8:21 AM
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The Bismarck quote always makes me think of little dogs with guns standing in a line.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 8:26 AM
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5, 11: tiny anty bodies. ANTIBODIES. They are TINY ANTS and they have TINY ANTY BODIES.

I give up.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 8:28 AM
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Sorry, please edit 11 to say " :-D :-D :-D "


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 8:31 AM
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Never explain puns. Just let them sit until wisdom comes from within.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 8:32 AM
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Correct.


Posted by: Ophiocordyceps unilateralis | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 8:35 AM
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How can peanuts have milk when they are a legume and not a nut?

Tiny anty nipples.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 8:42 AM
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Tiny aunty nipples


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 8:48 AM
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Fun new podcast: Moby Dick Energy (chapter-by-chapter commentary/analysis of the book)


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 8:49 AM
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My happy news is that I installed Lineage OS on my phone a few days ago and it seems to be working out fine. I might be able to get another couple of years of use out of it. Alhamdulila.


Posted by: Roger the cabin boy | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 8:50 AM
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Yay Jammies!

My good news is that I successfully applied for a new job here before the deadline in a much more rational institution. And I got three glowing letters of rec. Also met someone really neat today.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 8:55 AM
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I think they prefer to be called "someone with OCD."


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 8:59 AM
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I don't even HAVE a tiny aunty nipple.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 8:59 AM
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Try enslaving some aphids.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 9:00 AM
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If anyone remembers way back when I turned forty, and was feeling all midlife-crisisy, I complained that I didn't even have the option of running away to join the circus because I couldn't juggle. In the ensuing eight and a half years, I have learned to juggle. Still can't do much beyond a basic cascade, but that I can do.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 9:02 AM
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You need to be a better than average juggler to join the circus, unless you want to abuse the animals or something.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 9:04 AM
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Not to detract from what I'm sure was a real effort in your part.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 9:07 AM
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29: We're hiring!


Posted by: Ringling Brothers | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 9:08 AM
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Another positive update: I was confident I should not follow the rollercoaster of returns last night, so I reinstalled Appblock and disabled my time-wasting news apps and websites for 12 hours. It was a good choice and this morning I scrolled for 5 minutes and then hit the block button for 10 hours. Hopefully this is my way out of the fog.

Now I just need to stop reloading this site.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 9:13 AM
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Great news for Jammies! How does he get away with teaching geometry and not being roped in to cover algebra etc.?

How can peanuts have milk when they are a legume and not a nut?

Presumably the same way as soy beans.

Is there a health fad I need to try?

"Eat food, not too much, mostly plants." (Michael Pollan)


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 9:16 AM
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Two weeks ago I sang "One Night Only" for my voice teacher and he said, "That was professional. I don't care how fancy a voice coach, anyone would say that was professional. I'm proud of you. I'm proud of *me*." Two days ago I sang "River" for him, which I've worked on less (but still a lot), and he didn't say it was professional, but he did say that I was owning these songs -- someone else wrote them, but when I was singing them, they were mine, which is something a lot of singers struggle with. This is more of a cheap trick but in some exercises I can produce a G6 in my normal register, not whistle register. Since I don't have trouble with a C3, and maybe I've even gotten down to that B or B-flat (?), that's almost a four octave range.

In conclusion, people who "can't sing" just haven't been taught how, and remember that when communicating with people in your life about their singing.


Posted by: Tia | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 9:16 AM
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From now on instead of saying that I can't sing, I'll say that I couldn't be bothered to learn how to sing.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 9:20 AM
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33 It feels like I spent half my time today alternately refreshing the Super Tuesday returns and Johns Hopkins COVID-19 websites.

(8 cases here now, all recent returnees from Iran who were flown into a private airfield and taken straight to the hospital. In other local news someone forged a fake document from the Ministry of the Interior or similar saying Egyptians who have flown here from Egypt - not direct because of the blockade - would be barred entry. This caused an Egyptian cow-orker of mine to cut short a training in Jordan and return immediately, he'd spent a single night there).


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 9:26 AM
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35: Wow! That's great. I'm looking forward to both LB and Tia in the upcoming Unfogged Talent Show.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 9:27 AM
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That's wonderful, Tia. I always wished I can sing but I'm woefully out of tune.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 9:31 AM
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33: I used to do that, but I always kept Unfogged white-listed. Otherwise I would end up turning the block off.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 9:33 AM
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36 to 39.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 9:33 AM
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178 cases of alleged misinformation regarding COVID-19, 45 of which were created by Chinese cyberwarfare units with the aim of disrupting efforts to contain the disease and undermine Taiwan's national security, the Criminal Investigation Bureau said yesterday.

Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 9:41 AM
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Republic of Covid-19 versus Prevaricating Republic of Covid-19.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 9:43 AM
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29: When I was 19 and writing code to automatically generate mailers for a medical survey company, my friend and I got in trouble for adding text that said "Menopause, sometimes called 'the change of life' or 'running away with the circus',..
" and got way closer to production than it should have.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 9:46 AM
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That is absolutely terrific.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 9:47 AM
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Heh. I once stopped a mass-mailing from going out containing the phrase "pubic schools." I kind of regret it, but it was a good job and I owed my boss too much to let her hang for even a really great laugh.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 9:51 AM
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34.last is the smartest one that has come along in at least decades.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 9:57 AM
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I suppose it's only sort of good news for me personally, but a postdoc/research associate who's been in my lab for several years just successfully made the jump to tenure track faculty member.


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 9:58 AM
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In conclusion, people who "can't sing" just haven't been taught how, and remember that when communicating with people in your life about their singing. '

My sister put her boys into a private school where the entire school was a boychoir. Their only audition was a few rounds of 'tell me which note is higher'. If they could do that, then three hours of choir practice per day would do the rest. (Teach them to the level of touring and sounding like pure angels in performances.) If they couldn't, well, they couldn't go to that school.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 10:00 AM
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Although, my younger nephew may be the only boy in the history of the school to not make it to varsity choir. (He isn't interested.)


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 10:02 AM
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I had a baby! In socialist Canada, so I'm getting paid almost my (new higher) full salary for months. Although there was a lot of paperwork.

I seriously think returning to Canada and getting a full time job lowered my stress enough that I could get pregnant. Before that I was in grad school and post docing.


Posted by: hydrobatidae | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 10:03 AM
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I failed a "tell me which note is higher" test in high school.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 10:04 AM
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51: Congratulations.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 10:04 AM
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Congratulations!


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 10:07 AM
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The new health fad among my friends is putting copper tape on frequently touched surfaces.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 10:07 AM
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To conduct current for operant conditioning?


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 10:09 AM
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51: Congratulations! A baby, paid leave, and health insurance!

Have you picked out an Unfogged name for your baby yet?


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 10:10 AM
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Babies! Hooray!


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 10:12 AM
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I could have passed the music test if they let me see the hands of the person at the piano.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 10:16 AM
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The Unfogged babysplosion continues, congratulations!


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 10:16 AM
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Congratulations, hydrobatidae!


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 10:17 AM
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59: honestly those tests can also be confusing and I once failed at an impromptu effort on guitar by a dude who was just looking for ways to be a prick. The only way I'd believe that someone really truly didn't hear pitch adequately is if someone plucked out Twinkle Twinkle Little Star on the piano with a distorted rhythm and they couldn't tell what it was.


Posted by: Tia | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 10:53 AM
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Somebody washing their hands.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 11:06 AM
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51: Congratulations!


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 11:18 AM
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51! Congrats! All the healthcare and leave stuff around babies in Canada is so much better in practice.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 11:24 AM
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Congrats, hydrobatidae!


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 11:40 AM
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Have you picked out an Unfogged name for your baby yet?

Hooray for hydrobatidae and hydrobatibabe!


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 12:13 PM
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hydrobatibaby does sound like the obvious choice.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 12:30 PM
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The other parent could be hydrobatibae.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 12:35 PM
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I vote "Storm" for the baby.


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 12:47 PM
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51: So much better in so many ways, but I was surprised with the bills mt MIL had to pay.

My FIL had employer provided retiree healthcare which entitled him to a semi private room. Most of the rooms in their hospital are semi private though not all, so he likely would have been in one without the coverage anyway. Because he had it, he got 2 bills totaling $500. Cheap by US standards but not free at the point of care like the NHS mostly is.

I don't know what a US patient with Medigap would pay, TN Pugh of course they would probably be paying their own monthly premiums.

That was Ontario. I realize that every province has a different system.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 12:50 PM
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I vote "Storm" for wonderful archival reasons.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 12:53 PM
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oh my god, I forgot how insanely wonderful that song was in that thread.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 12:56 PM
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Courtesy of mostly Ajay, but also Dsquared:

My daddy left home when I was three
And he didn't leave much to ma and me
Just some unisex clothes and an empty packet of Quorn.
Now, I don't blame him cause he run and hid
But the meanest thing that he ever did
Was before he left, he went and named me "Storm."

He tormented my grandma and both of my aunts
By refusing to say what I'd got in my pants
And writing "n/a" in the "Gender" space on the form;
He said it was only right and fair
To let me decide how to wear my hair;
It's no joke bein' an androgyne named "Storm".

Well, I grew up to be a mean child-of-a-bitch
'Cause it looked like I batted both ends of the pitch
And broke damn near every societal norm;
But I swore I'd search every health food store
From Marin east to the Cape Cod shore
And find the goddamn fool who named me "Storm".

It was Williamsburg in mid August
And I'd just arrived, on the other bus
I thought I'd better find some place to keep warm
At the yoga center, cool as you like
Sittin' on the seat of his fixed wheel bike
Was the dirty, mangy dog that named me "Storm"

Well I knew at once that he was my dad
From the three tattoos that I knew he had,
Two tribal ones, and one (ironic) nude;
I kicked his bike out from under his ass
And I threw it right through the window glass
And he just smiled and said "Whoa, you've got issues, dude."

Well I ordered a coffee and drained the dregs
Then I punched him hard, between the legs
He kicked me with a ballet shoe and called it savate
I threw my man-purse into his face
And we crashed through the wall and out of the place
Kickin' and a-gouging in the mud and the blood and the latte.

I'd say that I've fought tougher guys
But that would be just a pack of lies -
They don't have many bar fights at Fresh Salt.
Still, I gave him one almighty smack
And I heard him groan and his iPad crack
And he wiped the foam from his face and called a halt.

He said "Son [or daughter] this world is rough
And if you're gonna make it, ya gotta be tough
And I knew I wouldn't be there to give ya correction.
So I called ya Storm to keep ya sparky
And strike a blow at the patriarchy
And muck around with their gender preconceptions."

Well what could I do? I knew what I oughta
I called him my mom, and he called me his daughter
And I came away with a different cultural norm.

I think about him, time to time
Whenever I subvert the dominant paradigm
And if I have a son, or daughter I'm gonna name hir ... Jazz! or Kio! Anything but god damn Storm!


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 12:58 PM
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The movie with Bollywood's first gay screen kiss in theaters now, but I haven't seen it yet. Trailer: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10309906/


Posted by: SR | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 1:26 PM
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Thank you for making that explicit, heebie!


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 1:35 PM
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ha, thanks for being polite! I honestly standpiped that.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 1:41 PM
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Unless you WEREN'T being polite and I keep standpiping.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 1:46 PM
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No worries at all.


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 1:52 PM
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I laughed


Posted by: NW | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 1:55 PM
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when in doubt, standpipe harder


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 2:04 PM
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Thanks!


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 2:07 PM
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Storm strongly identifies as a girl.


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 2:12 PM
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https://www.dawn.com/search?cx=partner-pub-8258178831251847%3A5337004877&cof=FORID%3A10&ie=UTF-8&q=pigeon


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Does the movie "Fire" not count as Bollywood?


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 2:49 PM
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I would have thought so, but maybe some reject that as "pure" Bollywood due to association with Canada?


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 2:53 PM
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Thanks!


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 2:54 PM
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Thanks everyone! I'm voting hydrobae and hydrobaby because they're easier to spell.

Also if anyone is up all night, I'm around and bored (and trying to figure out how/when to get hydrobaby to sleep in a crib not on a person)


Posted by: hydrobatidae | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 4:40 PM
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With difficulty/2022


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 4:48 PM
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I know everything about babies, except that stuff from Snowpiercer.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 4:49 PM
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There's not much to know, you just have to wait until it starts happening. Which can take any amount of time.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 5:48 PM
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Eating babies?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 5:50 PM
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congrats on the baby!!

- from an airport where my flight is somehow still fucking delayed despite the place being almost 9/11 level empty *but* am nonetheless calming self contemplating how much better everyone's complexion is going to look in a couple of weeks after you all stop touching your faces all the time which was always disgusting.


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 6:58 PM
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I'm never going to pull that off. Maybe I'll grow a beard so I can't touch much of my face.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 7:00 PM
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Of course, a beard is probably just a giant germ condominium.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 7:04 PM
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Maybe I'll clean my work coffee mug and call it good.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 7:08 PM
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germ tenement mobes.


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 7:14 PM
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I live in what could politely be called "the Elizabeth Warren Bubble."


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 7:17 PM
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56: Might look into that in the future. The proximate reason is that copper is antimicrobial.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 8:05 PM
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That's why it used to be safe to lick pennies.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 8:10 PM
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I guess, with regard to distractions, I'll mention that I took a DNA test if anyone wants to talk about that stuff again. I might find something interesting to say about it, but no promises. (It does seem like the French really confuse this particular model: Italian comes out French and French comes out English.)


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 8:28 PM
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I blame the Norse.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 8:36 PM
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101 Where'd you take it? Did you upload to gedmatch?


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 9:18 PM
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My cousin tried to get us all to send in samples and make like a family DNA tree. I assume there's a relative she thinks is a serial killer and she feels it's her duty to try to help catch him.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 9:44 PM
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gedmatch
I will choose to believe this is a fanfic hookup app.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 10:03 PM
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105 close, but for graduate students


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103: Ancestry.com and not yet. Moby, I feel it's a bit of a stretch to blame the Norse for Italy, although history is full of many stories. This plus the election year is all driving some kind of weird synergy where I read history surveys insatiably. (Currently, random Cambridge history of colonial Brazil from the late 80s, dated but fine.)


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 10:27 PM
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i've been put in a suite larger than our flat - travel for this client is booked through their agent so upgrades are a thing based on who client is, but suspect occupancy is seriously down.


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 03- 4-20 10:55 PM
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carefully check the background of gambling enterprises in the Philippines before accepting jobs with them


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 03- 5-20 1:01 AM
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Son, I carefully check the background of ALL gambling enterprises before accepting jobs with them


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 03- 5-20 2:09 AM
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I feel it's a bit of a stretch to blame the Norse for Italy

They made it that far, you know. There's a Norman Chapel in Palermo. Norman kings ruled Sicily and all of southern Italy for two centuries.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 03- 5-20 2:29 AM
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Everybody ruled Sicily or southern Italy at some point.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03- 5-20 4:44 AM
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OK THEN WHY DON'T YOU DO IT WISEGUY


Posted by: OPINIONATED ROGER DE HAUTEVILLE | Link to this comment | 03- 5-20 4:52 AM
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I clearly meant every nation and mine has successfully (in the end) invaded Sicily and southern Italy.


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Um.


Posted by: Carthage | Link to this comment | 03- 5-20 5:26 AM
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Yeah.


Posted by: Athens | Link to this comment | 03- 5-20 5:27 AM
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About that.


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It was a rough night.


Posted by: French | Link to this comment | 03- 5-20 5:30 AM
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Indeed


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115. [Clears throat.]


Posted by: Romans | Link to this comment | 03- 5-20 5:43 AM
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It occurs to me that people here might like the opportunity to start work on tearing this apart early.
http://tdmsresearch.com/2020/03/02/south-carolina-2020-democratic-party-primary/

It seems like good news to me. Maybe Americans aren't dumb after all. But I am open to being proven wrong.


Posted by: Roger the cabin boy | Link to this comment | 03- 5-20 5:48 AM
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112: The Normans kicked out the Arabs, who kicked out the Greeks, and were in turn kicked out by the Hohenstaufens. Followed by the Angevins (no, not those Angevins), the Aragonese, the Spanish more generally, and hence the Habsburgs. At some point Italians themselves got to be in charge. Honestly, everyone's had a turn.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 03- 5-20 5:49 AM
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At some point Italians themselves got to be in charge.

And after that the Americans and the British moved in for a bit.

It occurs to me that people here might like the opportunity to start work on tearing this apart early.

Roger, please tell me that unlike this Soares idiot you know the difference between "an increase of 1%" and "an increase of one percentage point". And also please tell me that unlike this Soares idiot you know that "margin of error" is only relevant when you're comparing observed and expected results, not when you're comparing observed and expected spreads between results.

That poll had a margin of error of plus or minus four percentage points, as CNN said. All the actual results were within plus or minus four percentage points of the exit poll.

End of.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 03- 5-20 6:32 AM
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Maybe Americans aren't dumb after all. But I am open to being proven wrong.

...yep.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 03- 5-20 6:33 AM
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We don't really feel in charge, tbh.


Posted by: Italian Ministry of Justice | Link to this comment | 03- 5-20 6:38 AM
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Are exit polls supposed to be super accurate now?


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 03- 5-20 7:03 AM
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I just want to say I'm feeling like this is a really hostile disrespectful environment.


Posted by: Opinionated Sicily | Link to this comment | 03- 5-20 7:06 AM
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126: I think Roger may think there's a dastardly conspiracy to make it look like Joe Biden beat Bernie Sanders by a whacking 28 percentage points and cover up the unacceptable truth that in fact he only beat Sanders by a piddling 23 percentage points. Clearly if Sanders could keep within that crucial losing-by-only-25-points margin, the nomination would be as good as his.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 03- 5-20 7:11 AM
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127: That'll do, ancestral homeland. That'll do.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03- 5-20 7:18 AM
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Surely the French only had a rough evening in Sicily. I mean, it was Vespers, not a Taizé service


Posted by: NW | Link to this comment | 03- 5-20 7:56 AM
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Biggest positive disparity, it seems, was for Klobuchar. Biggest negative disparity was for Gabbard. Next biggest negative was for Warren. Obviously, the best explanation here is that the computers were rigged, because it couldn't be possible that the polling understates the more centrist tendency.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 03- 5-20 7:56 AM
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And now I will return to my regularly scheduled perusal of German constitutional court judgments on assisted suicide. This has nothing whatever to do with the Primary campaigns.


Posted by: NW | Link to this comment | 03- 5-20 7:57 AM
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Well, technically the Sicilian Vespers was really just an example of very vigorously assisted suicide.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 03- 5-20 8:07 AM
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They made it that far, you know.

It's so dastardly to post these things while I'm asleep. YES I KNOW. I don't think that specific thing is the source of confusion between "French" and "Italian" on this DNA test, but by "it's a stretch" I meant it was a stretch, not that it was absurd. The method they use seems to have pretty strong limitations on accuracy.


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 03- 5-20 8:13 AM
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134: sorry. but I feel that 128-9 kind of justifies it.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 03- 5-20 8:16 AM
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127 and 129, rather.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 03- 5-20 8:16 AM
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Incidentally, the Norman chapel in Palermo is the single most beautiful church interior I know.


Posted by: NW | Link to this comment | 03- 5-20 8:27 AM
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Yeah, I was just going to say that it's justifiable for making me daydream about Norman churches in Sicily, which are also very beautiful whilst people are sleeping in California. Anyway no worries.


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 03- 5-20 8:32 AM
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Ancestry keeps changing the breakdowns: maybe the next iteration will look better to you. Gedmatch, though, has some really fun categorizations:

Anatolian Farmer
Baltic Hunter Gatherer
Middle Eastern Herder
East Asian Farmer
South American Hunter Gatherer
South Asian Hunter Gatherer
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer
East African Pastoralist
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer
Mediterranean Farmer
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer
Bantu Farmer


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 03- 5-20 8:43 AM
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I'm sure there's some easy trick for creating a table on this comment to match the table the data comes from, but since none of you cares, actually, which chromosome my apparently Siberian DNA appears on, I'm not going to fix this. You'll have to just imagine it. Anyway, this is from gedcom.

Population Chr--> 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22
North_Atlantic 59.3% 66.1% 56.3% 57.3% 62.2% 54.5% 33.9% 63.6% 44.4% 51.8% 48.8% 54.6% 27.6% 62.3% 73.6% 28.9% 40.6% 49.5% 50.7% 39.9% 53.8% 53.3%
Baltic 16.2% 13.8% 18.2% 13.4% 25.4% 25.8% 21.8% 7.2% 31.1% 9.1% 30.0% 28.7% 38.1% 12.3% 9.5% 42.9% 22.6% 18.6% 6.6% 13.7% 32.4% 4.9%
West_Med 7.7% 12.3% 15.8% 17.4% 2.5% 2.6% 22.4% 13.9% 14.5% 18.8% 12.1% 4.5% 13.0% 20.0% 10.6% 11.7% 19.4% 22.9% 24.5% 22.0% 7.1% -
West_Asian 2.2% 1.3% 4.5% - 3.4% - 12.6% 2.6% 4.0% - 1.9% 3.3% - - - 12.1% 13.3% - 5.7% 11.5% - 2.7%
East_Med 6.3% - 1.3% - - 6.9% 1.1% 0.8% - 14.4% 5.0% - 12.1% - 3.8% - - 1.1% - 5.9% - 11.4%
Red_Sea - - - 3.7% 6.1% 3.5% 2.2% 1.9% 1.1% - 1.3% 4.5% - - - 2.5% - 6.0% - - - 15.2%
South_Asian 4.6% 4.4% - - - 4.3% - 5.5% - 1.6% - 1.7% 6.9% 3.5% - 0.9% - - 5.3% - - 2.6%
East_Asian 2.6% - - - - - - 3.1% - - - - - 0.9% 0.9% - - - 4.8% - 6.0% -
Siberian - - - - - - - - 3.1% - - - - - - - 4.2% 1.9% 2.4% - - 9.8%
Amerindian - 0.1% 3.3% 4.4% 0.1% 1.3% 1.8% - - 0.4% 1.1% - - 1.0% - - - - - 5.2% - -
Oceanian 1.2% 0.5% - - 0.2% 1.0% 4.1% 1.4% 1.9% - - - 1.3% - 1.5% - - - - 1.9% 0.8% -
Northeast_African - 0.5% - 1.3% - - - - - 3.9% - 2.7% - - - - - - - - - -
Sub-Saharan - 1.1% 0.6% 2.5% - - - - - - - - 0.9% - - 1.0% - - - - - -
Nbr of SNPs eval: 13432 13668 11735 9848 10416 11102 9102 9668 8539 9255 8514 8336 6267 5754 5390 5481 4741 5338 3097 4700 2721 2369


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 03- 5-20 8:50 AM
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Yeah, Fire was a Canadian/Indian co-produced art film, not a complete Bollywood movie with songs, aimed at a mass Indian audience.


Posted by: SR | Link to this comment | 03- 5-20 8:57 AM
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139 is a list of RPG character classes that makes Warhammer (Servant! Beggar! Apprentice! Labourer!) look positively aspirational.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 03- 5-20 9:05 AM
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Ancestry keeps changing the breakdowns: maybe the next iteration will look better to you.

This one is pretty weird. Numerous matches with no overlapping ethnicity groups, plus curiously "9% Swedish" which is news to me. (I look the part, but there's no documentary evidence.) I predict that will go down closer to 1% in the next round, since my leading theory about it involves the Thirty Years' War and making shit up.

My uncle took the FamilyTreeDNA test which has a completely different reference panel: much more "Iberian" (possibly western France?) and "Southeastern Europe" (actually possible that was Romans in Britain). It seems to split the difference between "North Eurasian Hunter-Gatherer" and "you're Swedish, take this quiz to learn your IKEA End Table Clan Name."


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 03- 5-20 1:48 PM
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Lotta Nordic genes in the erstwhile Danelaw.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 03- 5-20 7:33 PM
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I guess I am kind of intrigued about that chromosome 22. 15.2% Red Sea, 11.4% Eastern Med, 9.8% Siberian. Quite a departure from the British Isles/Bretagne that's documented from the 17th century on. It's possible, with a whole lot of work, to figure out which great great grandparents each of these snippets came through.

143.2 -- The panel is different and your DNA mix is different. Have you uploaded to FTDNA yet? Having an uncle on there will make for really good triangulation.

143.1 -- That sort of percentage is mind-blowing to me. 5 generations back -- for you that's people born in the middle of the 19th century, I'd guess -- we each have 32 ancestors. Average of 3% each? 9% is a lot!


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 03- 5-20 8:21 PM
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I tried to import and reformat Charley's genome in a spreadsheet and crashed both libreoffice* program and - somehow - my browser as well. I don't want to speculate on the implications.

* bite me. I have word and from long acqauintance hate it.


Posted by: NW | Link to this comment | 03- 6-20 4:18 AM
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I could have shown you how to spell acquaintance.


Posted by: Opinionated Word | Link to this comment | 03- 6-20 5:07 AM
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Queynt


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