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in the five months we've been dating long-distance

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I hadn't noticed.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 1:14 PM
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Phone sex, too- much safer than the real thing.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 1:15 PM
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That is, pseudo-sex is just as amenable to IM as to phone.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 1:16 PM
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Heh. There have been a fair amount of comments about how no one ever got a relationship out of Unfogged comments, and I've been biting my tongue because no such couple was out of the closet. But now we can use you as an example!


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 1:17 PM
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I'm not sure if 1 is earnest, but I actually hadn't noticed. I miss, like, one thread out of five, and still it's enough to ensure that I never know what's going on.


Posted by: sam k | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 1:17 PM
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So maybe it takes two years for the Unfogged magic to work for Miss Year X. Teva-woman: only 23 months to go!


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 1:19 PM
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3: Not true; typing requires two hands.

That said, the existence of IM has pretty much made me hate phones even more than I used to.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 1:20 PM
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Apo, you must have been in the other room when I was menacing Ficke.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 1:24 PM
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At the UnfoggeDCon, I mean.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 1:25 PM
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5: 1 is earnest.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 1:25 PM
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Why would we when there's IM, email, and text messaging?

To each her own, but being able to hear a person's voice makes a huge difference if there is sweet-talking involved, IMHO.


Posted by: Idealist | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 1:28 PM
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4 makes me think that LB hadn't noticed either, in which case I feel absolved.

But damn, I don't think I could do that. I hate IM, and e-mail's not so great either. Then again, maybe with the right person...


Posted by: pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 1:29 PM
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I knew, but I didn't 'notice' -- I was told in person. I don't think there was publicly available Internet info to notice.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 1:30 PM
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You have to read between the lines.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 1:38 PM
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Revelations! Young love! The Unfogged Sex Palace! Woo!

As for the phone business, I still want to hear a voice, and the phone lets me walk around, or lay on the floor and throw a ball at the ceiling (NOT a euphemism!). You kids are missing out. You should have tried this long distance business when talking to your beloved meant several hundred dollars in phone bills each month.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 1:39 PM
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I want to be next in line for an Unfogged relationship. Where do I go to get on the list?


Posted by: pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 1:43 PM
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I thought Ficke had given the game away here.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 1:44 PM
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You should have tried this long distance business when talking to your beloved meant several hundred dollars in phone bills each month.

Several hundred?! How? Was she living in Myanmar?


Posted by: Matt F | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 1:46 PM
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17 - Heh. I was just looking for that.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 1:47 PM
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15: many a young hacker dude built his first blue box pining for distant love.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 1:48 PM
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If I sever my tongue from biting it it's all your fault.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 1:50 PM
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So the youth of today celebrate Five month anniversaries with a blog post?


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 1:51 PM
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Several hundred?! How? Was she living in Myanmar?

So young, so naive. There was this one phone company, see, and it was called AT&T, and it could charge you whatever the hell it wanted for long distance.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 1:51 PM
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23: well, copper wire was expensive in the 1890s.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 1:52 PM
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16: Not Texas, I think. Move to a city with some other commenters, and we'll start pimping you out.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 1:55 PM
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Kids these days!!! They probably do not even remember expensive cell phone calls. Unlimited minutes??!?!? Back in my day....


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 1:55 PM
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21: Heh.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 1:55 PM
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"I want to be next in line for an Unfogged relationship. Where do I go to get on the list?"

Plus, you do not laugh enough. Incorporate more belly laughs in your posts.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 1:56 PM
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21, 27: This means that the entire Unoggedtariat has paired off with one another except me and Timbot, right?


Posted by: sam k | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 1:58 PM
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29: "Falling in love again, falling in love again...." Call me.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 2:00 PM
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Heh. For me, it worked the other way around -- I got involved with Unfogged due to a relationship. I'm not terribly surprised to see it can happen the other way around.

Oh, and Apo? Thanks for this. And "bizarrely overchicked" is, if anything, an understatement.


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 2:02 PM
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28: What's a recommended, non-banned representation of a belly-laugh?


Posted by: pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 2:03 PM
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ogged seems to prefer the somewhat creepy "bwahaha..."


Posted by: sam k | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 2:05 PM
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33: That sounds more like the mad scientist laugh to me.


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 2:06 PM
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HAULAHGAHLAHULUALA


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 2:08 PM
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It all depends on who you're trying to attract.

Bwahahaha!
Muahahaha!
Ha!
Hee!
Teehee!
Funny.
Funny!
Too funny.
Hilarious!
Love me.
Awesome!


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 2:10 PM
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34: Our Bond films tell us that mad scientists--or at least evil ones--get mad play.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 2:10 PM
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If you have an annoying laugh in person, are you obliged to represent it visually in a way that conveys its annoyingness?


Posted by: pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 2:10 PM
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36 \:

Is this "Match the laugh with the girl you want to attract"?

I'll match frowner and "Bwwahhahahhaha"


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 2:12 PM
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7: What else did they invent chat/ webcams for?


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Do the Unfogged women give plus or minus points for a laugh induced snort? How about soda spitting?


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 2:13 PM
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Or a spot of vomit?


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 2:13 PM
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Love me.

Nice, though don't you have to say "via Life in Hell"?


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 2:14 PM
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41: "You owe me a new keyboard" jokes are *sooo* 2004.


Posted by: pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 2:15 PM
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44: Punk kids. I was making 'new keyboard' jokes in the eighties.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 2:21 PM
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Your letter brought forth in me laughter so uproarious that I did hit the table, causing the Victrola to skip.

Sincerely yours,
LOL


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 2:27 PM
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""You owe me a new keyboard" jokes are *sooo* 2004."

People have been telling masturbation jokes a lot longer than that.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 2:27 PM
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46: The most obnoxious site I've seen (or heard) in quite some time. Thanks again, Apo!


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 2:32 PM
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Welcome back to the US, NCP.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 2:34 PM
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I was making 'new keyboard' jokes in the eighties.

And it really meant something back then. Typewriter keyboards are much more expensive than computer keyboards.


Posted by: Matt F | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 2:40 PM
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Are you going to have to suck up to NCP all the time now, apo?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 2:40 PM
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51: for all we know he has very good reason to, the scofflaw.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 2:43 PM
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49: Thanks, bro. A week of honeymoon bliss in paradise did wonders for my disposition.


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 2:45 PM
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and throw a ball at the ceiling (NOT a euphemism!)

They reach that far? I'm impressed.


Posted by: Magpie | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 2:50 PM
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See this would be much more fun if I had known that Becks was secretly involved in a relationship and had been trying to guess who it was with, rather than finding out all at once both that a secret was being kept and what it was. That is, two secrets were revealed, one of which was that there was a secret.


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 2:54 PM
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I might have to comment less during work hours.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 2:58 PM
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I figured it out at the point Ogged indicated in 17, although I had it recently confirmed.

That said, I think I've been in a handful of long-distance relationships, and the ones conducted primarily over email and IM went much more smoothly than the ones conducted over the phone. The ones conducted by hand-written letter were, by far, the awesome-est.


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 3:10 PM
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56: You and me both.


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 3:12 PM
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36: Yeah, yeah.


Posted by: OneFatEnglishman | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 3:25 PM
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The ones conducted by hand-written letter were, by far, the awesome-est.

sent by carrier pigeon, no doubt


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 3:28 PM
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sent by carrier pigeon, no doubt

But of course. Painstakingly inscribed on parchment using a stylus. Have you ever tried having mail-sex in Linear A? Ridiculous.


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 3:44 PM
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Have you ever tried having mail-sex in Linear A? Ridiculous.

That's why they invented Fucking A.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 3:51 PM
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I tried having a long-distance relationship via cuneiform tablets sent by a carrier pigeon, but it never got off the ground.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 3:55 PM
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63: That was so funny I spit metheglin out through my nose onto my carrier pigeons. You owe me some new ones.


Posted by: Nakku | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 4:04 PM
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It's delicious that the blog leads to relationships for the commenters as it cockblocks ogged.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 4:14 PM
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Yeah, too funny.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 4:18 PM
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I communicate with people either online or by letter; the phone is only for those family members who are behind the times when it comes to the net.

Though it's true that some people are best interacted with (excluding in person) by phone.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 4:31 PM
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I'm doing w-lfs-n.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 4:33 PM
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Though it's true that some people are best interacted with (excluding in person) by phone.

Not only that, but best interacted with by landline. As I've recently discovered, having just gotten a cellphone. Crappy sound quality! No intonation, no sublety!


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 4:34 PM
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I am amazed at the number of people in my life for whom the postal rate increase is a non-factor. Apparently I am one of the last living souls who pay bills through the mail and send paper letters.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 4:35 PM
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Crappy sound quality! No intonation, no sublety!

So true. I miss landlines.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 4:40 PM
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69 - I think that could be part of it. I used to call people a lot more when I had a landline. Now that I'm cell-only, I make far fewer calls.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 4:41 PM
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Becks & Matt, Congrats!

I really liked talking on the phone back in the day, but that certain something you get out of hearing a person's voice is highly dependent on audio quality, and long conversations don't have quite the timbre on mobiles. The downside of nixing the landline. I make a lot of little tiny "hey you! just wanted to say hi and tell you a joke," calls, and really appreciate getting those and similar voicemails.


Posted by: Ile | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 4:42 PM
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Crappy sound quality! No intonation, no sublety!

Fortunately, some of us have found better ways of sharing music than playing it over the phone.


Posted by: neil | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 4:44 PM
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Yeah, landlines sounded much better, but you can't send drunk texts that way, and that by far is the most expressive medium.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 4:44 PM
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Crappy sound quality!

Definitely true after I put mine through the wash the second time.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 4:44 PM
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I don't make phone calls because I'm afraid of who will pick up the phone.


Posted by: tweedledopey | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 4:45 PM
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Oh, man, I hate talking on cells. I've complained before that my hearing isn't all that, and I find cell conversations strained and difficult.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 4:47 PM
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On the topic: I hate instant messaging and e-mailing shivbunny. Big fan of the phone, including text messaging. Weird, for a couple that met online, but there it is.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 4:50 PM
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Well, at least Cala's not crazy. Seriously, doesn't this resonate with people here?


Posted by: pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 4:57 PM
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We've had some discussions about that here, though I can't find them. Some people, like me, hate IM, and other, fallen people, seem to love it.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 5:01 PM
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Some have never used it.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 5:04 PM
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Wait, Cala, you met this dude online?


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 5:06 PM
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Did I know this? Do I approve?


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 5:06 PM
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And why the fuck weren't you meeting me online?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 5:08 PM
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I think it's come up. You probably didn't approve and I probably didn't care.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 5:10 PM
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That sounded snippier than I meant it.

85: 'Cause I already had a shivbunny?


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 5:11 PM
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65->85.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 5:12 PM
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Some have never used it.

Indeed, if you don't like answering the phone whenever it rings, why would you endure being instant-messaged?

Christ, I ask people's permission before I phone them -- long-distance friends, that is, with the intention of chatting for an hour.

I'm not sure why people have ditched their landlines altogether; mine costs all of $12/month just to have it.

You are all living in the future.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 5:21 PM
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Cala, you owe us the story of you and the Shivver met. Distract me from the St Petersburg Paradox, I beg you.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 5:24 PM
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Not my fault you're doing decision theory.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 5:29 PM
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78: totally with you here, to the degree that since I made the cell my only phone, I find myself putting off necessary catch-up calls to friends and relatives because I dislike the strain that the shitty sound imposes on the conversation so much.


Posted by: cerebrocrat | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 5:31 PM
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mine costs all of $12/month just to have it.

Holy hell, where do you live? I was paying about $25 in basic fees just to keep a landline active.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 5:31 PM
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I see that should have been "78, and a lot of other numbers." Didn't read all the way upthread, oops.


Posted by: cerebrocrat | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 5:32 PM
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if you don't like answering the phone whenever it rings, why would you endure being instant-messaged?

B/c you can check messages without having to get up, and you can multi-task while messaging more easily than you can on the phone.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 5:34 PM
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Cala is so mean.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 5:34 PM
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$12/month?! Does that plan allow you to both make and receive telephone calls?


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95: Is this an admission that interactions with people often seem filled with pointless moments when you pretend to listen while trying to go through the day's checklist? I could see that. Non-phone interaction makes that easier. In person interaction seems to have fewer such moments. At least initially. I suspect the end-point is the Emerson No Relationship life.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 5:40 PM
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39, what makes you think I laugh? Ever? I haven't even smiled since 1992.

Any humor you find in my remarks is entirely the creation of your own fevered brain.


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93:

You're in NY, no? What can I say.

Apropos of the future, Armsmasher points out that Cars are cool and the past is for chumps!

http://grammarpolice.net/archives/001305.php

Apologies to all and sundry for refusing to get the embedded html under my belt. really.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 5:46 PM
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I am not a fan of IM or voicemail. Send me an e-mail or see me in person. Or schedule a phone appointment, my long-distance friends.

To return to our past topic of laptops in the classroom, here's a utopian for you:

Laptops in the classroom: Mend it, don't end it

As a teacher, I can confirm that most of us love to be the center of attention, and laptops threaten our fiefdoms. For years, we have pointed the desks toward us and shut the window blinds to maintain our monopolies. When we punish the class clown, it's not for being funny; it's for being funnier than we are. Admitting laptops into the classroom means facing the reality that in the competition for attention, our best lectures can't even beat solitaire.
To productively use laptops in the classroom, teachers need to be willing to surrender their supremacy. Students no longer need us for the facts because facts are instantly available on the Internet. Instead, they need us to help them figure out what to do with all that data. It's ironic that law school professors are leading the laptop backlash, since their discipline saw this trend coming decades ago when they stopped trying to teach the law and focused instead on teaching legal reasoning.

Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 5:49 PM
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IM is horrible. It's like typing out an entire telephone conversation. A telephone conversation with a bad delay.

Talking to people on my cell phone sucks because sometimes I can barely hear the other person, and there's a slight delay which means I'm always jumping in when the other person's started to speak, and vice versa.

Email's the only way to go.


Posted by: alif sikkiin | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 6:54 PM
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I liked cell phones, and then I got in-calling, and then I got engaged, and now my mother can call me an hour a day.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 6:57 PM
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Does in-calling only apply when your phone service is with the same company? Or does it mean that you can receive calls for free from anyone, like the way mobiles work in the UK? Because, if it's the former, you should switch carriers right away, Cala.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 7:12 PM
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It's the former. The whole Calaclan is on verizon and omg they never stop talking.... who has the ability to receive calls for free from anyone? Internationally (i.e. Canada) even?


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I don't think that anyone does, not here. They do in the UK. That's why it costs more money to phone a UK mobile than to phone a UK land line.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 7:27 PM
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We ain't immigrating to the UK. For one, shivbunnies retail poorly secondhand on eBay.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 7:30 PM
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Skype users.


Posted by: neil | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 7:32 PM
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frowner:

bwaahahahahhahahaha


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 8:29 PM
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IM is horrible. It's like typing out an entire telephone conversation. A telephone conversation with a bad delay.

Back in '02 several friends of mine and I spent the winter group IMimg each other. It was fun. None of us have done it since, however. I can't even remember my IM password now.

Cell phones I love, though. The convenience more than makes up for the shitty reception.


Posted by: Populuxe | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 10:47 PM
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102 is correct, if by "Email" you mean "Facebook".


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 05-14-07 10:52 PM
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Also, parsimon totally got that link in 100 from me. 'Cause we said exactly the same thing walking through the Modernism exhibit at the Corcoran.


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111: I had never even heard of Facebook before I read a New Yorker article on it.

And get off my lawn, Ned.


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