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Again, you post right after me! Once is an unforgivable sin, but twice?!


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 06-15-07 5:45 PM
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It begins to look like carelessness.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 06-15-07 5:48 PM
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Mutt, Jeff, play nice.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 06-15-07 5:49 PM
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Sweet. Is the disgreement in tenses in the summary paragraph at the top ("...says nothing much while ...spoke volumes") a meaningful construction or just carelessness on the editor's part?


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 06-15-07 5:52 PM
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I like how the last comment on the years-ago-web-magazine post suggests that Ogged will likely change the "Fewer cock jokes" description of the Unfogged Reading Group.


Posted by: Epoch | Link to this comment | 06-15-07 5:55 PM
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D Squared is a World Treasure.
I remember his comments about how good projects don't need lies to sell them but when lies are told you know the project is bad.
I wish he would post more on this side of the pond.


Posted by: DILBERT DOGBERT | Link to this comment | 06-15-07 6:06 PM
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I officially predict that John Emerson will soon show up to comment on how good-looking Daniel Davies is.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 06-15-07 6:08 PM
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I read the article earlier this afternoon. My jaw dropped when I arrived at the reference. Really, is that how they teach one to do citations at the University of Texas? Scrolling down through the comments, though, made me think that writing on art for CiF was only slightly less thankless a task than guest blogging at The Washington Monthly, although the latter may give rise to more unintended humor.

(Of course the article is basically right on the art. What I've been thinking about this week, though, is that despite the fact the Venice Biennale sounds very tame and safe, I can't deny that I'd probably like it better than a lot of other shows of its type.)


Posted by: JL | Link to this comment | 06-15-07 6:21 PM
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I think the article is very good and looks like a comment thread we had around here and so should be cited MLA style but since it's early in the semester he can have a B+.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 06-15-07 6:22 PM
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"in several posts at Unfogged" s/b "in several comments during a two hundred some-odd thread to which I will not bother linking"


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 06-15-07 6:25 PM
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"in several posts at Unfogged" s/b "in several comments during a two hundred some-odd thread to which I will not bother linking"

Really. The sort of thing one thinks would fly in College Station, but anywhere else? Please.


Posted by: JL | Link to this comment | 06-15-07 6:28 PM
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is this above or below citing wikipaedia for a term paper?


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 06-15-07 6:30 PM
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Kriston probably felt that the eclectic, original methodology we have developed here might confuse the unsophisticated reader.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 06-15-07 6:30 PM
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oh, 11 beat me.


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 06-15-07 6:31 PM
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what's wrong with citing Wikipedia? is


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 06-15-07 6:35 PM
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He left out 'testooned with breasticles.'


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 06-15-07 6:35 PM
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is


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 06-15-07 6:35 PM
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To be fair to Kriston, though, it probably wasn't worth spending too long researching an authoritative cite for that one sentence.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 06-15-07 6:37 PM
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I've moved on with my life, but Kotsko won't let go of the time I compared him to a drowned rat, not realizing that among his people drowned rats are thought of a Satanic.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 06-15-07 6:52 PM
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Wait, these are "posts"? I gotta add about a thousand pages to my c.v.


Posted by: slolernr | Link to this comment | 06-15-07 7:03 PM
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We have a grand total of 14 click-throughs from the article so far. Maybe we'll hit 20!


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 06-15-07 7:06 PM
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Kriston's sending signals
From the Guardian 'cross the pond
He's taking strong positions
On art and le beau monde
Tracey Emin's awesome
Although she's a big slag
Her tent is so capacious
And so's her sleeping bag
She could tangle bedsheets
With Kriston any day
While Hirst is too pretentious
And his skull is kind of crap
And all we do is write blog posts
And say it's cool for Capps (it's cool for Capps).


Posted by: slolernr | Link to this comment | 06-15-07 7:40 PM
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On art and le beau monde

Should be "On l'art and le beau monde", I think you'll agree.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 06-15-07 7:59 PM
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22:

That is fabulous.

The devil came and took me From bar to street to bookie


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 06-15-07 8:04 PM
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24: That's a different song, that's "Up The Junction"

That said, this is a very enjoyable, if lightweight, movie.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 06-15-07 8:09 PM
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PopCanon does a good cover of "Up The Junction". Well, they do a cover, and I like it, but can't judge it qua cover, 'cuz I've never heard the original.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 06-15-07 8:12 PM
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The original is very, very good. You have to be in the mood for it, however. Squeeze is one of those bands for me that I don't listen to often, but enjoy when I do. I can go two years without listening to them at all, and never think about them, never miss them, and then get into the right mood and listen to Squeeze repeatedly for a week and then shelve them for a couple years.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 06-15-07 8:15 PM
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Yes, I was aware of that NickS. I agree with 2 completely. Squeeze can be addictive for me as well, but i can also find mysef not listening to them for a long time.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 06-15-07 8:18 PM
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I agree with 2 completely

It begins to look like carelessness


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 06-15-07 8:22 PM
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I gotta add about a thousand pages to my c.v.

Holy shit! Then I gotta start commenting more. I could get tenure!

"In 1993 Jools Holland demonstrated his love of [The Prisoner] and starred in a spoof documentary, The Laughing Prisoner, with Stephen Fry, Terrence Alexander and Hugh Laurie. Much of it was shot on location in Portmeirion, with archive footage of Patrick McGoohan, and featuring musical numbers from Siouxsie & the Banshees, Magnum and XTC. Holland himself also performed a number towards the end of the programme. Also appearing was the late Stanley Unwin."

Oh God. Has anyone seen this? Stanley Fucking Unwin. It's like they made this show just for me.


Posted by: Populuxe | Link to this comment | 06-15-07 8:30 PM
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Should be "On l'art and le beau monde", I think you'll agree.

You may edit it as you please, benster. I'm just touched that you care.


Posted by: slolernr | Link to this comment | 06-15-07 8:40 PM
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20 pretty much summarizes my thoughts. Woot! I post on Unfogged now!


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 06-15-07 11:25 PM
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I had forgotten about that lego stuff, the "Brick Testament." The one with a bucket of foreskins, that's about the greatest thing ever.


Posted by: arthegall | Link to this comment | 06-16-07 7:41 AM
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arthegall--I met someone who graduated from your program at my reunion last week.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 06-16-07 7:49 AM
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I thought this video was made just for us. Gay chicken XTREME, totally and completely NSFW.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 06-16-07 9:36 AM
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Wicked Scepter!!!


Posted by: arthegall | Link to this comment | 06-16-07 9:47 AM
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I did so bother linking! In UK style, dollars are changed to pounds and hyperlinks are deprecated.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 06-16-07 11:19 AM
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Metric links suck.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-16-07 11:34 AM
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I can't believe I'm the only person who clicked on the link in 35. And here I thought Unfogged was the Official Web Magazine for Today's Straight-Identified Gay Male.

And AWB, you call that NSFW? They blur out anything inappropriate.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 06-16-07 12:31 PM
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I'm fairly sure the only thing that was blurred out was when those cocks were pretty erect.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 06-16-07 12:40 PM
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30: Populuxe: voici Google's best effort - haven't watched it, let us know if it's any good.


Posted by: OneFatEnglishman | Link to this comment | 06-16-07 12:56 PM
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39 is inaccurate in all its parts. Mr. Someguy was not the only person to click the link; I did so as well. My silence on the topic should not have been taken as disapproval. The video is totally NSFW; a more halfassed job of naughty-bits-blurring I have not seen. "Official Web Magazine for Today's Straight-Identified Gay Male" is a great slogan except for its exclusion of roughly half of the site's commenters and posters.


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 06-16-07 1:15 PM
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(And it's off to play miniature golf.)


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 06-16-07 1:16 PM
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I clicked the link. I don't have sound on this pc so I imagined the Sandbach accents (I've got a friend from there). I liked the snogging.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 06-16-07 1:30 PM
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44: The snogging was my favorite part, too. That was no regular gay-chicken kissing there, but full-on hott "straight"-boy make-out.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 06-16-07 1:35 PM
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My favorite bit is that the cocks themselves aren't blurred; only the men-touching-other-men's-cocks.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 06-16-07 1:45 PM
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i don't find the hott/nothott distinction to be in whether the girls pulling are bi/lesbian or straight. The hott/nothott distinction is more about whether it was their idea or people were suggesting it to them. Also i totally didn't click on that link.


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 06-16-07 2:09 PM
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44: When was the snogging? I watched about half of it, it seemed pretty boring. I made it to the part when they were dancing naked in the bar. How much longer after that?


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 06-16-07 2:18 PM
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48: It's near the end, from about 2:48.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 06-16-07 2:22 PM
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it seemed pretty boring

"I'm so straight that watching other guys get all gay just makes me yawn."


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 06-16-07 2:23 PM
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I liked all the meta, movie-within-a-movie stuff, with its thought-provoking commentary on Our YouTube Generation, black-and-white "security cam" aesthetic, etc. What would Deleuze say about this eroticization of one's own surveillance?

But you-all, that shaggy haircut has to stop. My most fashion-forward male friend--the first person I knew to wear it--ditched it long ago.

The snogging? Richly amusing.


Posted by: Frowner | Link to this comment | 06-16-07 2:24 PM
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I'm so straight that I've seen variations of most of that stuff live. But I only watched halfway, so maybe it gets better. I'll go look.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 06-16-07 2:25 PM
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Aw, I think the video was adorable, shaggy haircuts and all.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 06-16-07 2:27 PM
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I love how all the women are totally unimpressed, perhaps not realizing this isn't about them at all.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 06-16-07 2:29 PM
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Well, it was certainly friendly and amiable gay chicken rather than hostile and aggressive gay chicken--that's a new thing, I think. When I was young and in my prime (of course neither the technology nor the cultural space would have existed for this type of thing) this kind of gay chicken would all have been either really fraught or really fully of surpressed violence.

Also funny how the women were filmed.

I couldn't get sound, though, so my understanding may be a little off.


Posted by: Frowner | Link to this comment | 06-16-07 2:30 PM
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Second half is definitely much gayer. I assume they're having us on, but mostly because I can't imagine all of that stuff happening in quick succession/ single night. But I can sort of see anything but the jacking-off the other guy bit happening, though, again, not constantly, as seemed to be the case in the video.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 06-16-07 2:33 PM
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I can sort of see anything but the jacking-off the other guy bit happening, though, again, not constantly, as seemed to be the case in the video.

Right. The way it was represented, it made it look as though getting naked and fooling around with each other was not just incidental, but, like, the point of going out together.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 06-16-07 2:35 PM
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Rugby players are renowned for getting naked together - the drinking is just an excuse.

And yoyo - it was men snogging - if you don't click the links it makes it hard to offer relevant commentary!


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 06-16-07 4:15 PM
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yeah, the sport of rugby is pretty much like that, which is why I gave up playing, after about twenty years.


Posted by: dsquared | Link to this comment | 06-16-07 7:11 PM
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Proof that too many handjobs will bring a man down eventually.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 06-16-07 7:12 PM
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36 "wicked scepter" s/b "show me your weenis"...


Posted by: arthegall | Link to this comment | 06-17-07 9:59 AM
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