2. Which dates between December 28 through New Year's Eve people could attend.
Such variety.
Not New Year's Eve, but I'd show for the 28th, 29th, or 30th.
Woot! Pre-party at Ben's Chili Bowl!
That is to say, I need to ask my wife, and Ficke can I bum a couch?
I could probably do it, but I'd prefer a date as early in that window as possible. Missing NYE would be a tragedy, especially since I think that's now an anniversary.
I'm a solid maybe -- I was distraught about missing it last year, but if some family plan comes up, not unlikely during that stretch, I'm out. No preference on the date.
Again? Annually? More power to you, but those of us who would never be able to make such a party have to face a limit, a ceiling on our sense of full membership the more this happens, and the more people attend, from all over.
6 and 7 get it approximately right.
I agree with 2. Then again, if it were New Year's Eve, I'd probably still come.
I'm in. I'll be in NoVa already, and I agree with #2 (avoid NYE proper).
There are preliminary plans for another NYE party at my house, which is in the same neighborhood. The Unfoggedtariat is more than welcome, of course, but it also makes me hope that the 'con itself is on some other night.
I think I'm already going to be in the area, and if so, I can definitely do any of those dates.
14 - Don't worry, I think we're leaning towards Not New Year's.
Yes, earlier in the window is definitely better, though I'd show for any of 28th-30th.
The big APA is in B-more, so that should bring people in. Labs, Cala & Ben can't use it an excuse.
Now that I am tenure track, I have vowed never to go to one of those damn things again.
The majority of the committee has decided: Not New Year's Eve.
Just because I'm generally last-minute Charlie, I'd like to pre-emptively announce that if I end up being able to make it, I'd probably be looking to split a hotel room with someone. (Under the assumption that hauling Buck down to it would be unlikely to work.)
The committee also wishes to indicate that room & board at the facilities is only available via personal invitation from a committee member, IYKWIM.
We have to pre-arrange sex this year?? So lame.
23: Just for the first night. It helps with the ice-breaking.
earlier in the window
See, it didn't matter that I was still too hung over to drink on NYE last year, because Roberta was pregnant and couldn't drink either (and lord almighty but that was one long, unpleasant drive back to North Carolina). If it's on the 30th again this year, I might have to exercise restraint, which seems inappropriate to the affair.
Please consult the conference agenda (PDF) if you have any questions, Ogged.
We have to pre-arrange sex this year?
Hey there, sailor.
Since when does this blog have anything to do with getting ogged laid? Sell-outs, the lot of you.
Actually, I guess I can pony up to split a hotel room.
It's not inconceivable that Rah and/or I could make it up but I won't know until closer to then.
Golly, Chopper, this is so sudden.
If it is on the 30th, I would be a strong maybe.
I might even agree to meet Ogged early to help him learn breaststroke prior to festivities. Would the location be close to :
Marie Reed Learning Center, 2200 Champlain Street, NW, Washington, DC?
Any of those days will work for me. And Chopper, you are of course welcome to the couch again, should it be needed.
Would the location be close to :
Marie Reed Learning Center, 2200 Champlain Street, NW, Washington, DC?
It's about a 15 minute walk from there.
Stupid formatting. Second paragraph should also be italicized.
It would be a great to meet some of you and tilt a glass or two, but family stuff will likely take precedence. So maybe. I'm local.
I'd like to come.
You should be more assertive with Jammies.
29- I believe they just announced, what, the 4th anniversary?
I'm in! Would prefer not the 31st.
Nope. If you do it in New York one year, maybe.
You're in NY? Show up the next time we have drinks, why don't you -- you can listen to me ramble bitterly about how much I dislike BigLaw.
I'll consider it, but I often have a new year's family trip.
I'd carpool with apostropher if he'll ride with dookees.
Also,
I think that's now an anniversary
it must've been some new year's if you're still not sure if it's your anniversary.
If you do it in New York one year, maybe.
New Yorkers, if I can drive up from North Carolina, you can make it down from NYC. I hear they have trains and everything up there.
Apo hasnt mentioned it, but we might have to miss it due to our schools probably going to HUGE bowl games this year. Showdown of the titans in Chapel Hill this weekend.
I'd carpool with apostropher if he'll ride with dookees.
My dad went to Duke Medical School. I even dated a woman with a masters degree from Duke's Divinity School, though she did turn out to be completely insane. I'm a pretty accepting sort.
I can probably make it. I hear they have a new Chinatown bus with Wi-Fi.
The committee also wishes to indicate that room & board at the facilities is only available via personal invitation from a committee member, IYKWIM.
Oof, in that case, I'd only be able to come by if anyone can offer floor space in the DC area. Hotel rooms sting cost-wise.
Ogged is going to deign show his face? Amazing.
I hereby express interest.
If I'm going from California (as Ben did last year), y'all have no excuse.
Yeah, alameida came from halfway around the world.
28th-29th are both good, perhaps the 30th but not sure.
I could probably put one out-of-town person or couple up at my place.
Attendees may wish to bookmark this.
33: Hey, my LB blogcrush is of long standing and public. But I just meant that if Matt was not in a position to offer couch space, I could pony up to share hotel space.
So dsquared has no excuse.
This is true; d2, McG, Asilon, OFE, et al., they all have no excuse. In fact, they're closer than I am.
52: DC hotels can actually be surprisingly cheap when you're not competing with conventioneers and summertime tourists.
Hm, I wonder what the chinatown bus to DC costs...
No promises, but if I end up going, I might end up driving down in the World's Lamest Car (it had rats, yo!), which being a station wagon could take passengers. I'll make an offer to New Yorkers when the time gets closer.
I wonder what the chinatown bus to DC costs...
Twenty bucks, apparently.
This is true; d2, McG, Asilon, OFE, et al., they all have no excuse. In fact, they're closer than I am.
Maybe snees can bring Lucy Mangan.
Yeah, Labs and I split a room for just $55 each last year.
11: Anyone else for a meetup at the MLA? Hopping down from Chicago isn't quite as easy as from Philly.
I'm definitely asking Mangan to lunch the next time I'm in London.
1. That would be me. And me alone. It's a sad sad world (yeah, not so much).
2. Any of those, if I'm in town. A man has to burn vacation days, you know.
Sure, I'd travel halfway round the world, if I could explain my absence to my wife, and mysteriously spirit the money out of thin air!
Come on -- you could hitchhike to the party. And have wacky adventures along the way! Culminating in learning some very important lessons, not only about yourself, but about life.
It's a John Hughes movie for the 21st century.
That was to 71. Although I'd be impressed if ttaM could hitchhike across the Atlantic. Tramp steamers, maybe?
I'll ask fagz0rz Kevin Drum if he wants to come out this year, since he thinks we're some kinda clowns. Hilz0y, too.
NattarG:
A friend is the Czech Director of Trade in Chicago. Surely, I could get him to fashion some kind of plausible excuse. I want to see your cameras.
teo: This is your chance. Everyone got laid last year. Everyone.
72: How hard could it be to explain? "I'm going to be gone for a few days to meet internet people. See you in a bit."
78:
I guess I could bring the birth control. Anyone need Nuva rings?
There must be some way we can get Ann Althouse to show up.
I'll go as far to even offer up Catherine's room to use for someone to have sex with Teo.
74: They don't have tramp steamers anymore, more is the pity (I've checked). The closest you can get is bulk fishing boats which start one place and end up another. But that's mostly in the Pacific.
Whales, then. Surely any true Scotsman can thumb a ride on a whale.
I'll go as far to even offer up Catherine's room to use for someone to have sex with Teo.
But what about catherine and me?
re: 79
It's not the pretend internet friends thing. I meet up with a bunch of people from a music related site I comment on, fairly regularly. It's the 'other side of the world' thing that's problematic.
This is true; d2, McG, Asilon, OFE, et al., they all have no excuse.
Ben, can you give a definitive ruling on whether "I don't even fucking like you lot, except Ben" is an excuse or not?
Whales, then. Surely any true Scotsman can thumb a ride on a whale.
Ah, yes, the great thumb-path across the whale-road.
There's still tramp shipping, just not powered by steam.
I'm not so thick that I can't tell you're just tacking on that exception so I'll give a favorable response, d2.
"I don't even fucking like you lot, except Ben"
That wouldn't be an active reason to show up? My picture of your social life is apparently in error.
In Elgin ND we could buy a house, party for three days, and then burn the house down. Fun!
There must be some way we can get Ann Althouse to show up.
Black incantation? Slaughter a lamb or virgin? Say "treason" 30 times in the mirror at midnight?
Guarantee the presence of liberal women with breasts?
But what about catherine and me?
You can have Becks's room.
94 - You could even THROW THE HOUSE off the roof of ANOTHER HOUSE!! OMG!!! It's Em-Fun!
Sigh.
If I'm working, I'll probably be working those nights.
If I'm not working, I won't be able to afford both travel costs and a hotel room. (Well, really, either.)
Bad local sex guaranteed for all the laydeez.
#92: there are no favourable or unfavourable responses to this since I'm not going to come and I'm not really polite enough to bother with an excuse. I was just curious.
#96: hang on, maybe I was a bit hasty, tell me more ...
I haven't moved to NY--still Chicago. I'm just often there with my family over the holidays. I don't think I can justify an extra trip to D.C. in there.
Oh, man, I had a great hron-rod comment all lined up. What are you doing awake, w-lfs-n?
I can't believe there isn't a thread here devoted to the recent death of Alex the parrot. I'm heartbroken.
We haven't settled on a recipe yet, stras.
I can't believe there isn't a thread here devoted to the recent death of Alex the parrot. I'm heartbroken.
Apo has just thread for you, stras.
I blogged it at my site, stras.
Nor have we confirmed his zombiehood, which is the mark of sentience. Has there ever been a chicken-zombie? It is the zombie's unquenchable thirst for lost sentience that drives their lust for brains.
Doesn't it seem that "pining for the fjords" could be a good euphemism for impotence? "At the moment I seem to be pining for the fjords. Dreadfully sorry."
Not that I'm impotent, or that it makes any difference in my case.
I will be at MLA every day, but I could feasibly fly back into DC instead of NYC on the 30th. It was too sad missing it last year.
In fact, they're closer than I am.
But you're a better swimmer.
Also:
As she put him into his cage for the night last Thursday, Dr. Pepperberg said, Alex looked at her and said: "You be good, see you tomorrow. I love you."
Has there ever been a chicken-zombie?
Of course, none of the guys here has a concept of impotence, but maybe the laydeez could tell me how well they think that euphemism would be accepted by its target audience.
What makes you think the laydeez here are familiar with impotence?
For the record, eekbeat and I are in "very likely" status for the 28th, 29th, and 30th. And I officially challenge Spackerman to a drum-off rematch.
An alternative meetup in Chicago, for those here and those attending the MLA, might be a very nice alternative. Particularly if those traveling to DC could be back/not yet gone for it.
113: I've known some people with parrots, and they're weirdly bright and at least sometimes weirdly overinvolved with their owners (attacking other people who come close, getting their feelings hurt by insufficient attention, that sort of thing), at least to a casual observer more intense/complicatedly than a dog. I'd believe a parrot might know and use a particular utterance to mean an expression of positive feelings, and withhold it when it was mad or hurt. (No one said that Alex did this, I'm just saying that I wouldn't be surprised if a parrot did.)
Does that count as 'having a clue what he was talking about'?
All the grumbling they do, I'm fairly sure of it. They don't have the complacent arrogance that Unfogged dudes invariably have.
I'd believe that a parrot might express such an expression as a result of positive feelings, but that it would use such an expression is a more contentious claim.
One story about a different parrot said that the parrot responded intelligently to some things it heard (not just standard commands).
Not having discussed this with Sir Kraab yet, I would still like to express my interest in us attending again.
Not having discussed this with Sir Kraab yet, I would still like to express my interest in us attending again.
122: Say, then, that its production of such an utterance might have a causual connection with its emotional state relating to the person present when the utterance was produced.
Better?
I am all for Chicago meeting up, although I will either be keyed up and nauseous over interviews, or sad over no-interviews.
118 is a good idea. I might be able to make that--don't know yet.
I thought you had a job, foxytail?
An alternative meetup in Chicago, for those here and those attending the MLA, might be a very nice alternative.
Ooo, this would be awesome. How much space do y'all tend to take up? Parties of 10-20 are pretty easy at my place, and it's centrally located in Chicago, depending on where the MLA is in town.
I've owned a small parrot before and known several others who have owned big ones, and it has left me convinced that they really shouldn't be pets. It's just too difficult for a person that isn't a shut-in to fulfill the social needs of a flock animal. Also, by the time you can afford a big one, they're likely to outlive you, then die of depression.
Which isn't to say that you won't completely fall in love with a parrot (and vice versa, but that's the problem).
118, 120: I'm going to be out of contact for the rest of today and much of tomorrow. Can someone else please develop the Chicago/MLA meetup idea?
Alas, the job I looked like getting last year was de-funded before I could get it. On the bright side, I'm now defending midyear this year instead of in a crazy rush at the end of last year, and both my dissertation and my dissertation committee are certainly better for the extra time.
I will be very busy at the conference, but could possibly do dinner one night in Chicago! I certainly can't make UnfoggedCon unless it's the 30th.
Speaking of parrots, have any of the SF folks seen The Wild Parrots of Telegraph Hill, or, even better, the parrots themselves?
138: Do you know where the conference is? Depending on how many people want to come, where they'll be staying, when and how long they want the meeting to be, etc., we might want to meet in a bar, restaurant, someone's apartment/house...
Suggestions, anyone? How many people were at UnfoggeDCon last year?
139: Yes. Both. And I think apo in 134 is exactly right.
Also, last UnfoggedCon I remember rob helpy-chalk being non-tenture track. That seems to have changed since then. So, congratulations!
At 31, Alex died young. Parrots kind of skeeve me out, but I find that I am sad over this.
I'd believe a parrot might know and use a particular utterance to mean an expression of positive feelings, and withhold it when it was mad or hurt. (No one said that Alex did this, I'm just saying that I wouldn't be surprised if a parrot did.)
I've heard rumors that more recently, Alex wouldn't work on many kinds of experiments with Pepperberg, but only with her grad students. (The temptation to excessive anthropomorphism is of course strong here -- people who told me this liked to say it was because of fairly elaborate and subtle feelings of being exploited, ressentiment, etc.)
139: Yes, and no. I loved it.
I'd like a bird, but it would have to be a non-migrating, non-flock bird. Like a grackle. Those are pretty cool.
Wait, it looks like they migrate, although I seem to see them all year round. Dammit.
When I was housesitting for a couple with an African Grey parrot, I had this brilliant scheme to play recordings of the voice of the baby on Family Guy on endless loop so that the parrot would end up talking like Stewie all the time.
Of course I didn't do that, but by the end of my ten days there, that parrot could do a great imitation of my voice (or rather what my voice sounds like to others; I had the same experience of "that's not what I sound like!" as when one hears one's own voice on a recording).
When I was housesitting for a couple with an African Grey parrot, I had this brilliant scheme to play recordings of the voice of the baby on Family Guy on endless loop so that the parrot would end up talking like Stewie all the time.
Of course I didn't do that, but by the end of my ten days there, that parrot could do a great imitation of my voice (or rather what my voice sounds like to others; I had the same experience of "that's not what I sound like!" as when one hears one's own voice on a recording).
Am I getting through to you people?!?1!
When I was commenting on Unfogged, I had this brilliant scheme to repeat my comments on an endless loop etc. etc.
Is anyone else disturbed by the fact that it's easy to attribute sophisticated mental states to parrots partially because of the accident that they can produce speech sounds? I think the sophisticated mental states are real (oh, not everything, but a lot of the Alex stuff is genuine), but it worries me that a pig with a parrot's vocal abilities might easily talk just as well.
I'm going to talk myself out of bacon at this rate.
148: Yeah, I've stopped eating spiders for just that reason.
Pigs are smart! It's too bad there aren't any that stay piglet size.
150: The Weavers aren't representative of all spiders.
I'll be there. And one vote for the 30th.
148: It's not just the talking ones. Birds are smart.
My favorite smart animals are corvids and the octopus.
Not all birds are smart. Chickadees have never been shown to use tools. Nor has the wattled curassow.
I have never seen an owl in the wild. I would like to. Actually, what I would really like is to have a small owl sit on my shoulder and nibble shyly on my ear.
Jeez. I'm in the area but am always visiting family during that period.
Owls like kittens, so that's parsimonious.
I have been attacked by gulls.
I see owls around here from time to time.
Once there was a small dead owl outside my apartment. Their faces are so cute, with the fanned out feathers. I was really fascinated by it.
Pigs are as intelligent as people, which is why they taste so good. Suck on that, Singer.
Owls don't eat foxes or shrubs. Try putting mice in your pockets.
Just as penguins are not as imperturbable as they look, owls are not as wise as they look. It's always unwise to ascribe human virtues to animals. It's especially unwise to ascribe human virtue to people. The motherfuckers.
I see owls now and again around my house. Had one swoop just over my head while I was sitting on the porch one evening. Then it sat on the edge of my roof and stared at me for about five minutes before getting bored and flying off. I hear them hooting all the time at night.
Their faces are so cute
You know what has a really cute face? An owl monkey.
158: I believe you meant to say owls and pussycats.
Barn owls are perhaps the super cutest. Owls and kittens are in fact cute in very similar ways, I think.
Is 121 about parrots or laydeez?
I was stalking RFTS on Google and the closest I could get was a foxtail pine. It's a pretty small pine, but not a shrub I don't think, and it didn't seem red to me.
Who, as everyone knows, is Tippi's cranky older brother.
169: Heebie is a lady, as Tom Jones pointed out.
Actually, what I would really like is to have a small owl sit on my shoulder and nibble shyly on my ear.
At the Renaissance Festival last weekend, there was a guy dressed as a wizard who had a (stuffed) owl on his shoulder. I was disappointed to find that it was not real.
Barn owls are creepy looking. They look like No-face. Any owl is cuter than a barn owl.
He changed his last name from "Hedren" to "Hedrin" to avoid confusion.
175: Did it ruin your whole RenFair experience, or were you able to console yourself with one of those giant turkey legs?
If Po-Mo's place doesn't work out for the Chicagomla meetup, I will offer you my mom's house. I don't need to tell her. The year after I graduated from school, a bunch of my still-in-college friends showed up having confirmed their stay only with a friend of hers who forgot the message. She was unfazed. I imagine the same thing would happen with my imaginary internet friends.
Gull feces are a potent weapon. The dive bomber was modelled on the gull. Early divebombers even had oviducts.
Once you pledge to attending, the committee is free to ignore your preferences.
There is a strong internal support for Saturday, the 29th. Perhaps folks who would like to attend, and aren't likely either to attend that sad-sack affair in Chicago, should speak now.
Just as penguins are not as imperturbable as they look
But they are cute even in their minor distress as you approach and they desperately try to waddle faster. Poor bastards, unable to fly and only knee-high, they're lucky they didn't face a bunch of hungry Dutch sailors.
I still want to hug one someday.
The Owl and the Pussy-Cat went to sea
In a beautiful pea-green boat,
They took some honey, and plenty of money
Wrapped up in a five-pound note.
The Owl looked up to the stars above,
And sang to a small guitar,
"O lovely Pussy! O Pussy, my love,
What a beautiful Pussy you are,
You are,
You are!
What a beautiful Pussy you are!"
(It's a children's poem by Edward Lear.)
I recommend a Ferruginous Pygmy-Owl.
151- That's not true, there are those mini pigs (pot-belly) that were briefly popular in the 90s. They're about 60lbs full grown, size of a medium dog.
Hey Smasher, what's going on with your law-enforcement-themed blog?
B, wherever you go, there you are. You might as well buy that house in Elgin.
I hate you east coast people.
You're just jealous.
Also, birds as pets? Insane. They poop too much.
Also for Owl and Pussycat lovers, I recommend the eerie and out-of-print children's book The Other Side of Green Hills.
It broked when I forgot to pay my host.
190: I am! So unfair! WAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!
189: Hell of a commute.
187: 60 pounds is not really piglet-sized. On the other hand, you can litter train them, which seems like an advantage at first. But if you think a cat can make a litterbox stink...
Penguins don't poop. When they do, it's permafrosted.
were you able to console yourself with one of those giant turkey legs?
There is little that a giant turkey leg won't console. I recovered my spirits by eating one, a flagon of mead in hand, while watching a jousting match.
I would also appreciate one of these as a pet.
Hell of a commute.
Only if you have a job.
198: Excellent choice:
This bird is kept as a pet by Amerindians, since it is easily tamed, hunts snakes, and is a very efficient sentinel, with its unmissable alarm call.
I now see that the bird linked in 198 has Wikipedia entries in English, Spanish, French, and a language I've never heard of. It looks like Portuguese.
Snakes are not a big problem around here. I wonder if it would hunt rats.
200: You're right, Teo! It'll help my marriage enormously if Mr. B. lives in Ventura and I live in Elgin.
204: Wait, we're trying to help your marriage? Never mind, then.
I am! So unfair! WAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!
With 14-day advance purchase, Greyhound will only cost you $99 each way. How bad could a 5000-mile bus trip be?
207: Dear god. I've done Greyhound from St. Louis to Omaha, and that was bad enough. I love you all so dearly, but even I have my limits.
192: Wow! A used copy on Amazon goes for $150. Do you have a copy of said book?
I do! I didn't realize they were selling for so much, though. The NYRB Classics people should reprint it.
If the Flophouse is open to long-time lurkers, in particular those who've recently moved to the District, I would like to join in on the festivities as well. I can't afford expensive liquor like the libertarian crew of last year, but my conversational skills are surely better. Also, cheap wine!
Or, rather, their Children's Collection imprint, I suppose. My copy was a gift from my mother, who knew how nobly I resisted stealing the library's copy when I was a girl, so I don't know how much it cost when I got it.
There is a strong internal support for Saturday, the 29th. Perhaps folks who would like to attend, and aren't likely either to attend that sad-sack affair in Chicago, should speak now.
Well, I'm local and will be around this year; either the 29th or the 30th works.
The Saturday (29th) makes more sense from a party and travel perspective.
Unlike Ten Ever-Lovin' Blue-Eyed Years of Pogo, it does not appear that this book is available from someone on eBay any cheaper than from the Amazon seller.
I can definitely do an MLA Chicago thing, if that pans out. Just puttin it out there.
I have never seen an owl in the wild. I would like to.
Magpie and I saw one driving up Haleakala a couple of weeks ago... flew right across the road. I've still never seen a nene, though.
my conversational skills are surely better
A bold claim.
"The Owl and the Pussycat" was feature din one of Saul Bellow's books, probably Herzog. Bellow's friends were well aware of his fondness for pussy, though not always admiringly so.
211: I'm not hosting, but I assume that'd be cool.
159: I used to live in a house that had several owls nesting on its associated, heavily wooded land. During mating season I hated them. They are screamers.
One spring afternoon we were walking around the back yard and talking about what needed to be cleaned up that year and four or five of them appeared in the lower branches of the old trees around us, fifteen or twenty feet over our heads. They just watched us. They were ridiculously huge owls. They watched us for long minutes and I felt distinctly targeted and had to go inside. I like the hooting, though. I grew up hearing a lot of hooting and I find it a comforting sound. I just don't like being watched by them.
Apart from Sybil, Katherine, and IDP, who else would be interested in the Chicago meet-up during MLA?
expensive liquor . . . libertarian crew
That's just Julian. For the rest of us, tastes skew much cheaper.
Lurkers are welcome, especially those who target members of the household and make out with them in the kitchen.
I have never seen an owl in the wild. I would like to.
There's a screech owl round here that I've yet to see. If it's as wise as it's cracked up to be it'll make a point of seeing me first, because it keeps me awake half the night, and I'm out of charity with it.
When I was a kid in foreign parts, there was a pair of eagle owls that nested in a tree in our garden. Jesus, they were big.
Whoever brought the Oban last time should come.
Whoever brought the Ouzo shouldn't.
Holding out for Absinthe this time?
Can it be in a public place so that I can turn around if I feel like a geek and won't fit in?
My parents have a blue and gold macaw. They are terrible pets. Needy, petulent, prone to neurosis, and suitable to be housed only with deaf people. And if you're not a deaf people, you will be after a few years with one of these things in the house. And it's going to outlive them, and I'm going to be stuck with it the guilt of getting rid of it.
If you feel embarrassingly geeky, just claim someone else's identity. Who'd know?
No way man, ouzo rocks.
A little too much, yes.
I can't bring my co-blogger's wine this time, because he moved to Portland.
Oops, bad html me:
BWI Friday evening $100 less than DCA Saturday morning, a wash with one less hotel night. Just hypothetical, anyway, I probably have family plans that time of year.
229 it's hard for me to imagine how feeling like a geek could possibly translate into not fitting in with this crowd.
I'm not sure if my family is doing christmas on the 27th or 28th, so the 28th is a maybe, and the 29th or 30th is an almost surely.
he moved to Portland.
Couldn't you just swing by his place on the way?
Huh, it looks like there are some pretty reasonable airfares into National on ATA. Maybe I could actually come to this thing.
Or I could just stay here and continue to seethe.
Couldn't you just swing by his place on the way?
Well, they sell that vineyard in the stores here, but it was cooler when he handed me the bottles and said, "Here; I made these."
blue and gold macaw. They are terrible pets.
Incredibly beautiful birds, though. Noisy doesn't really begin to describe living with a bird. Even the little conures can be ear-splitting.
If I'm in DC over Thanksgiving, it'll be hard to return a month later, but it could happen. As for me, any of the proposed dates are as convenient as another.
It's not for a while yet, teo; you can still get in a solid three and half months of seething.
220: I just saw a place where Wittgenstein mentions Pogo.
239: Come to the dark side, Teo...
I'd need to buy tickets soon, though, and if I do I won't be able to seethe.
You could seethe over the cost of airfare.
Portland is the elephant graveyard of ambitious people. Few ever escape. Too bad, Stanislaus.
Seethe until a golden brown, then add wine to deglaze.
220: I just saw a place where Wittgenstein mentions Pogo.
Can it be true? What place?
232 Not foolproof. If I said LizardBreath, for example...
51 I'm a frequent user of dc-ny bus. I'd recommend old-school Greyhound as it is generally cleaner and safer, and/or you'd prefer mid-town to Chinatown. Same price as Chinatown (35/round) IF you buy from their site. I haven't tried the new wireless-access bus, but their schedule is extremely limited.
I bought tickets like a week before the last one.
I can't bring my co-blogger's wine this time, because he moved to Portland.
I initially misread this as "co-blogger's wife". Didn't know the 'con was *that* kind of a party...
I bought tickets like a week before the last one.
There are a lot more flights from where you live than from where I live.
If I said LizardBreath, for example...
Awkward geekiness would be totally convincing. That's the beauty of the strategy -- it works for almost everyone here.
No matter what I do, I can definitely seethe about how much easier it would have been to attend if I'd gotten that damn job.
That's the beauty of the strategy -- it works for almost everyone here.
Everyone except b and apo, I'd say.
terpbball: Were you asking if we could hold the house party somewhere public? (Answer being no)
249: That's one of the beauties of Portland, didn't you know?
it's what we used to say about eugene, or in the '80s:
why'd all the hippies move to eugene?
'cause there are no jobs there.
252: Most likely in "Ethics Without Philosophy", which I think I'm reading on your recommendation. Don't knwo where, exactly, though.
Possibly in Finch's 1995 "Wittgenstein", which has many points in common with the other book, and which I would recommend.
Portland is the elephant graveyard of ambitious people. Few ever escape.
He plans to stay only for this harvest, then move on to a vineyard in the Southern Hemisphere (New Zealand maybe, or South Africa). I guess we'll see if he can escape Portland's clutches.
I just saw a place where Wittgenstein mentions Pogo.
I enjoyed the bumper-cars scene in Mouchette.
With the decline of the timber industry there are very few cobs to log in Portland any more, so Stan's coblogger chose a good place to be unemployed.
For some, even Portland is not stagnant enough.
I thought the cobs were being logged for bioethanol now.
I can't commit fer sure, but I'd really like to go.
(Just saying that scared the hell outta me. Ah, well, I can always claim to be OneFatEnglishman.)
Besides, I once had a dream that I met Robust McManlyPants, and I really would like to see if I have an accurate mental portrait. (Note to RMMP: Brush up on those table-dancing skills, ok? In the dream they were good, but this is real life we're talking about.)
I can't commit fer sure, but I'd really like to go.
Heh. We could get a whole block of rooms for North Carolinians and drive in a big caravan.
Heh. We could get a whole block of rooms for North Carolinians and drive in a big caravan.
Do they have trailer hookups on Florida Avenue?
Surely some band isn't using its tour bus. (Suddenly, Apo and the North Carolingians have turned into Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem in my head, with Pants and Rah as Floyd and the saxophonist.)
I'd like to attend -- can I invite a few thousand bots as well?
222 Apart from Sybil, Katherine, and IDP, who else would be interested in the Chicago meet-up during MLA?
Me too.
222 Apart from Sybil, Katherine, and IDP, who else would be interested in the Chicago meet-up during MLA?
Me too.
If the two of you both show up, isn't there a big explosion?
oops--
i'll never make it up to dog level if i can't spell better.
rowlf.
yeah, he's awesome.
any body feel like a janice?
Janice! I was trying to remember her name.
Rowlf's too easy-going. I fear I am Miss Piggy.
I've always identified most closely with Statler.
My mother loved this movie. I have no idea what Ann-Margret seems out of place, however.
281--
b for janice. fer sure.
but, sorry, lb, apo is right about statler & waldorf
i think apo himself may have a shot at animal.
can you play drums?
("neither can he!" from s & w in the balcony.)
269: Sorry to burst your bubble, Wrenae, but that dream sounds entirely accurate. If I ever dropped enough inhibitions to table dance then I would surely disappoint.
273: Rah makes a better Floyd; I more closely approximate the physique and personality of Zoot (said saxophonist). I talk a lot online because I don't talk at all in person.
rft @
what I would really like is to have a small owl sit on my shoulder and nibble shyly on my ear.
You do know that both White's Merlin and Rowling's Potter have mad skillz unavailable to the mortal, don't you? I've seen owls nibble. Your external ear would be gone in a trice, or maybe in two trices.
Wild owls are best appreciated in a quiet forest, on a full-moon night, when if you hoot at them skillfully, they will answer. Even better if it's October.
What are you, doing a chicken imitation?
Yes, I was specifically imagining Archimedes. As long as I'm fantasizing, why not?
dr. honeydew needs a sidekick: beaker, by name.
he should be tall, have a shock of light-colored hair, and not talk a lot.
i wondered if your husband, buck, could play the part.
on writing down the question, i was puzzled by its resemblance to the name of a hippogriff in harry potter.
jesus i hate to be the kind of long-winded chicken who pecks things to death.
I always kind of identified with Beaker. I am not tall, and I do talk a lot, but I also get alarmed and go meeeeeh.
Magpie and I saw one driving up Haleakala a couple of weeks ago... flew right across the road. I've still never seen a nene, though.
If you've seen a Canada, you've seen a nene. The genetics types sorted that one out a few years ago. It caused a brief stir and then went down the memory hole so we could keep enjoying our own very special geese.
Pueos are cool, though. The only/one of the few (?) owls active in daylight. We had one land in our (small, urban) yard a couple of years ago. I thought it was a pigeon until it turned around.
Stanley's the drummer. Apo has to be Dr. Teeth, are you kidding? And physically, Beaker has to be Labs.
I'm like totally happy to be Janice, though, dudes. For sure.
295: You were absolutely clear, I was just commenting on the chickeny sound of the question. Buck makes a lousy Beaker. Tall and skinny is right, but the shock of lightcolored hair has migrated entirely from the top of his head to his chin. And he talks a great deal.
I fear I'm probably a Fraggle, come to think of it.
i defer to your greater knowledge of the non-muppet individuals.
Ogged, I suppose, has the nose for it....
Wait a second. Scratch that Dr. Honeydew. Fozzie Bear works much better. I am, in fact, incapable of responding to the words "Bear left" with anything other than "Right, frog."
305--
i honestly think that's a much better match for you.
and i mean that in the nicest possible way.
I hang around with dorks in real life, in addition to online, and myself and some of these dorks have just built a wiki for our department. In making promotional materials for this wiki, we settled on a pictured of Fozzie, with the words "Wiki, Wiki, Wikie." And I think this is just so funny.
What the hell are you people talking about?
It was on the comics page, Ogged. Next to Family Circus.
Ogged, Ogged. You can rent the movies on Netflix and get all caught up on the childhood you missed out on.
Also, isn't it kind of typical of Gonzo not to know what everyone else is talking about?
Kind of more Kermitty. With the flailing arms and the shouting?
well, ben rogers, if i was as ignorant as you i wouldn't let on
Kind of more Kermitty. With the flailing arms and the shouting?
Ladies and gentlemen what the hell are you talking about yayyyyyy
Wait, wait, I used to watch Sesame Street. Ok, I'm on top of this. I didn't know their names.
I used to watch Sesame Street. Ok, I'm on top of this.
So close, and yet so very far off.
dude:
http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Muppet_Wiki
study up and get back to us in a few, okay?
rfts @ 293:
Archimedes
"shyly" was the giveaway; it's such a tender and unexpected moment.
Damn that's a great book. Damn, that's three great books. I had to grow up a lot before I understood the last one at all.
Wasn't Kermit on Sesame Street? I don't know. Kill whitey.
Kermit was totally on Seseme Street. Stop persecuting the Shiite, people.
Even Stras is defending me. Man, you people are mean.
He mostly did field reporting for Muppet News.
On Sesame Street.
ogged remembered a fact.
Even Stras is defending me.
A sure sign that something's wrong, I should think.
Sadly, I googled the site looking for a comment Gonzo once made about Big Bird, and we've had exactly this conversation before. And everyone else in it identifies with Fozzie. Fine. Ratso. I can be Ratso.
hey, i'm not being mean--i gave him a link to the wiki so as to let him join the reindeer games.
(okay, maybe the tom sawyer quote was a little mean. sorry.)
and yes, kermit totally got his start on sesame street. but i don't know whether the electric mayhem band ever played on that show.
also--maybe worth noting that the people who jumped into this insane jargon most readily are parents of small or formerly small kids. grown-ups in general have no reason to know this stuff.
Ogged has his ear to the Sesame Street.
grown-ups in general have no reason to know this stuff.
Not so. My kids hardly watched Sesame Street (much less than I did as a child -- it's gotten duller). This is all from my own Muppet Show watching.
This is all from my own Muppet Show watching.
Yeah, my brother and I used to wake up at 5am to watch The Muppet Show, around the time of 3rd or 4th grade. I have no idea why they gave it such an early timeslot.
333--
huh?
something about discussing muppets shows weakness?
something about this conversation obliges me not to show weakness?
do tell.
ot--
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/39292
onion from 1996.
sometimes it's the funny stuff that shows you how much worse the world has gotten in 11 years.
Letting Ogged off the hook for shameful ignorance of cultural touchstones shows weakness.
Rizzo, not Ratso. (I was raised right, unlike ogged.)
I actually owned a muppets cd a while back, & for some weird reason was listening to it while I wrote a paper on Dante's inferno. Sure enough, I dreamed that night that I had to save the muppets from going to hell.
Am I the only one who keeps reading the heading on this post as "Request for Expression of Indecent Proposals"?
Sam the Eagle must be a right wing blogger, but I can't put my finger on which one.
Travelers: I used Priceline recently to arrange a very nice hotel in Chicago's loop for less than a crappy one in Skokie. Overview with link to ancillary website There's a DC section, don't know how fine-grained the neighborhoods are.
Sam the Eagle caused flashbacks to some muppet childhood maze I remember doing- if you went through the maze to the wrong place, you ended up at Sam the Eagle or some other scary looking muppet. I don't know if I did this maze many times or if Sam was so scary looking I'm just scarred.
not bad. Unibrow would trump bald, though.
It's time to play the music. It's time to light the lights. It's time to meet the Muppets on the Muppet Show Tonight.
Ba-dum-dum-dum
(Dear diary. Today I got the Muppet show song stuck in everyone's heads.)
Oh man, remember the days when Sam the Eagle was widely seen as ridiculous?
Sigh.
As far as muppets, or muppet-associates go, I think I'm Telly (from Sesame Street.)
I love Miss Piggy. I love her voice. And her Dolly Partonness.
also--maybe worth noting that the people who jumped into this insane jargon most readily are parents of small or formerly small kids
I'm much closer to being the child than the parent. Our cats were very nearly named Statler & Waldorf but Rah's superior mind won out. I couldn't sell him on naming them Hookers & Blow, either.
Manamanap.
Doot-dooo-do-do-do.
And conjunction junction between scooby-doo and whatever else Hanna-Barbera cranked out on Saturday morning. With Quisp.
Not a blogger, but compare and contrast.
Heebie: Ha! I don't remember the Muppet song at all! Your stratagems are worthless!
Robust: You have to wonder if someone who prevents you from naming your cats Hookers and Blow really loves you.
167: John Emerson is Tippy Hedrin!
Pop culture indiscretion: A week ago, M/tch M/lls had to ask me who Tippy Hedren was. Surely I should get a footnote.
Crap. 355 was me. Stupid someone-else's computer.
41: I'd like to come.
Texas road trip!!
124: Not having discussed this with Sir Kraab yet, I would still like to express my interest in us attending again.
See above.
Kraab, have we had a glasses update yet? You went with the curlicues, didn't you?
I used to sing "Movin' Right Along" to the cows in the morning.
ba-dum-dum-dum
Movin' right along
searchin' for good times and good news
with good friends you can't lose
this could become a habit
Opportunity knocks once
let's reach out and grab it
Together we'll nab it
we'll hitchhike bus or yellow cab it
(Cab it?)
(Just forget about it.)
354: I confess that I wasn't wholly sold myself and Rah pointed out that if they grew up to be indoor/outdoor (they're indoor-only) then we might hesitate to step onto the back porch and yell, "HOOKERS! BLOOOOOOooooooOOOOOOW!" Turns out we're suburbanites after all.
360: I guess Andrew Sullivan was right about the death of gay culture.
The Muppet Show song.
Ostensibly the original Mana mana.
The version everyone remembers.
have we had a glasses update yet
I'm deciding between the curlicues (which got like 85% of the vote among people who know me IRL) and the Jones New York, despite 'smasher's dire warning. (The store people promised me they'd fix them if there was a problem.) But the store had to order other colors so I could compare and contrast.
Don't worry, ogged, once I actually get them the Mineshaft will be like the fourth or fifth to know.
360: What's wrong with "here, pussy pussy pussy"?
Dude, I need instant gratification. I don't even care anymore. Get contacts, why don't ya?
yeah, i once dog-sat for friends who had named their dog "potato".
said dog promptly got loose and ran around the neighborhood, with me in full voice behind.
let's call the whole thing off, said i.
but oh---
Hookers & Blow
OMG, I am going out to get two cats right now.
I always sort of related to Grover on Sesame St. Except on my Oscar days.
Oh, man, Oscar. He was always my favorite. Though as I've gotten older I've become fonder and fonder of Bert.
It's unlikely that I will attend unfogged con, but it's surprisingly tempting.
bert & ernie.
of course partly modeled on the odd couple.
but also a pattern for liberal & conservative.
easy-going and mischievous vs. up-tight and rigid.
or at least how liberals look at liberal & conservative?
I think they think they're Ernie too.
I can't go with the liberal/conservative thing at all. Bert is way, way too sympathetic, and he's not the least bit interested in passing judgment; he simply wants to be left alone to enjoy his pigeons (such a working-class hobby!) in peace.
right, which is totally stupid, but everybody wants to be ernie, whether you lean right or left.
except for utter freaks (368)
372 to 371, before the interruption.
sure, bert's not a conservative, he just wants to be left alone, resents the intrusion of do-gooding big government tax & spenders, and thinks that the licensing of pigeon fanciers is a step on the road to serfdom.
You've moved on to the muppetfest (you geeks), but on the topics of birds and Portland, we went to see this last night. A truly impressive sight &mdash thousands and thousands of swifts descending into a chimney at dusk. For the ornithologically inclined, background, and video.
Actually, the real reason I've never been a big Ernie fan is because he is a LOT like my father: cheerful, prone to laugh at his own fuckups, completely oblivious to his effect on others. He's a super nice guy, but living with him is an exercise in perpetual frustration.
Is Jesus coming to DC and bringing good wine?
Come to think of it, my childhood failure to identify with Ernie probably explains a lot.
I wish. Blame my damn family. There should be Unfogged cons in every time zone, or at least a live feed from DC. Maybe Emerson and Roamsedge and I can reprise last year's Portland meetup.
380:
Will you at least ship us some wine?
There's an off chance that I could make a Portland meetup around that time.
381: For a full accounting of who ends up sleeping with whom, perhaps something can be arranged.
DaveL's in, meetup's on -- will anyone else be around?
Is Jesus coming to DC and bringing good wine?
If Jesus loved us, he'd just turn water into wine.
This is turning into Live 8 - simultaneous global meetups.
Jesus, that is a deal. I would willing give you any and all information in my possession.
380: I'm interested but I can't promise anything.
377: My next door neighbor is a pure Ernie. If I'm right, IRL Ernie would have a long series of bad relationships and gambling problems enhanced by moderate alcoholism.
This is the same countryish babe magnet with the psychobitch girlfriend that I've mentioned before. The babe magnet that neither one of my sisters could imagine being interested in.
It's a big world out there.
387: Eh, my dad isn't an alcoholic or a gambler. And his relationships are just fine from his point of view.
I'm also in for Chicago if there are to be happenings around these parts.
383: First I have to convince my wife that she's willing to put up with my brother's wife and kids at Christmas (along with others, less challenging), which is far from a sure thing. But there's been serious talk of playing in the snow over Christmas break and I'm hoping to get some family time out of the deal.
I once knew a pair of cats named Dinsdale and Spiny Norman.
So, is anyone going to see the Dirty Projectors tonight?
I'm nostalgic for the days when nearly no one had met in person.
I've toyed with the idea of getting two kittens so I can name them McBain & Mendoza.
I'd be up for a Chicago gathering. Maybe we could even sucker Adam into coming?
Would commenters who appear to be underage be welcome at UnfoggeDCon? (The boyscouts tried to recruit me last week.)
396: One of them will get results if the other doesn't throw the one off the case.
commenters who appear to be underage
This question should properly be directed to Emerson.
Samantha is fine. If the bar kicks her out we can go to a special plce.
399 - That's McGarnagle, you stupid chief!
Oops. I need to enter a Simpsons re-education camp.
Last year sounded like fun, but the idea of meeting Unfogged is frightening.
None of you encountered any trouble explaining why you were flying across the country for an imaginary New Year's Eve party? Really?
None of you encountered any trouble
Nope.
None of you encountered any trouble explaining why you were flying across the country for an imaginary New Year's Eve party? Really?
I didnt forsee any trouble until I just found out that underage looking girls will be there.
Why are you so defensive, B?
Not defensive; cranky and self-pitying. I have a cold.
B: If you came to the UnfoggeDCon 2.0, I'd lend you my neti pot.
Then again, if you still have that cold come December, you'll probably just cut us all.
Not you, though, Stanley. I'll kill everyone, borrow your neti pot, and suddenly feel *much better* just in time for my trial. Only you will visit me in person, because you'll be the only one that understands.
You will need a lawyer licensed here. I think that leaves Charley and me. Charley, flip a coin.
Are you licensed in DC, will? I think Charley is. Just sayin'.
I didnt forsee any trouble until I just found out that underage looking girls will be there.
Why is that trouble? You live with an underage-looking girl.
I go off to teach and when I get back the thread's up to 400+!
For what it's worth, I brought the Oban last time.
We'd be up for Chicago on either the 28th or 29th and then DC on the 30th.
Friday - much better for the gathering than Saturday, when I might find myself flying off from north carolina to minnesota for new years (great plan, eh?).
Never mind, if I'm going to kill anyone it'll be my husband, who just got home and FORGOT TO PICK PK UP AT DAYCARE.
So maybe it'll be Will's services I'll be needing after all....
Apart from Sybil, Katherine, and IDP, who else would be interested in the Chicago meet-up during MLA?
Definitely interested -- whether I actually can, though, will turn on how the custody/visitation schedule shakes out for the holidays.
Is Jesus coming to DC and bringing good wine?
As long as you have water there, he should be able to take care of it, I'd think.
Apart from Sybil, Katherine, and IDP, who else would be interested in the Chicago meet-up during MLA?
I probably would be, depending on how my conference responsibilities shake out.
For what it's worth, I brought the Oban last time.
Your taste is well spoken for, you are always welcome in my home.
Do all of the Chicago meetup people feel fine with an evening house party then? My building is only about 3/4 of a mile north of the hotels where the MLA is being held (or the north end of downtown, by Michigan and Oak, for those who know Chicago), so it should at least be fairly convenient for anyone who isn't driving. Would anyone else rather host as I am barely above lurker level here?
So maybe it'll be Will's services I'll be needing after all....
Then you can move to Elgin!
(OT: that one-person meetup I just had at fenway park got put TOTALLY OVER THE TOP by Papi's walkoff. Goddamn I am hoarse)
Apart from Sybil, Katherine, and IDP, who else would be interested in the Chicago meet-up during MLA?
Chopped liver, at your service.
429: Dude. You were there? Spectacular.
431: 3rd base line, 10 rows back. God damn that is an amazing place to see a (banned)ball game.
430: SEK you failed to organize the LA meetup just so you could feel slighted on other meetups, didn't you?
For what it's worth, I brought the Oban last time.
We'd be up for Chicago on either the 28th or 29th and then DC on the 30th.
Ben: it seems we may need to divert your flight through Chicago, lest we miss out on some delicious spirits. Are you up for this task?
Oh. You're asleep. Okay. Well, we'll all plan as if your absconding with the whiskey from the Chicago meet-up on Friday or Saturday morning.
Er, pending committee approval and all that.
It appears that the APA is in Baltimore this year, which means I may get the chance to dance with you folks again! The 30th would be optimal for me, since that's after the APA ends. I could do New Year's Eve as well.
Oh. You're asleep. Okay.
I was at a Dirty Projectors concert checking out a gorgeous redhead during a terrible set by Yacht, and the DP's adorable guitarist during their set.
If I were in a position to bring liquor with me—that is, if I were going to check baggage—I wouldn't need to go through Chicago to bring delicious spirits, as I have quite a bit here with me right now.
Oh, christ, if ben won't check his baggage at the door, who will?
I always check baggage at the door, especially the door of such an ill-reputed house as the Flophouse.
Chopped liver, at your service.
It's fine, I got you from 397. Looks like about 10 people nterested so far, but the actual list will probably come from a later thread anyway.
checking out a gorgeous redhead
Wait, let me guess: you didn't talk to her.
Her? Assumes facts not in evidence.
Count me in as a maybe. APA is in Baltimore which I think is pretty close by train.
Wait, let me guess: you didn't talk to her.
She was there with a dude, so, no.
I flaked on the whole UnfoggedCon thing and would like to redeem myself. So, I'm a definite maybe, DC area local, subject to spousal approval, other holiday commitments etc.
There's some chance I may be able to give a few rides from Baltimore. Depending on timing and stuff.
I'm in.
As for wine, I'll not be bringing six pots of two firkins each, but can manage some again. Subject to the governor(s) of the feast. And the dog not biting me this year.
New Year's Eve is a Monday this year? Anyway, and since I'm sure this headcount needs to be very precise, I'm in for any non-New Year's Eve night. I recommend this bus to New Yorkers (iff they're travelling to D.C., I don't go around recommending it to New Yorkers in general), my one experience with it was quite positive.
I would like to come to UnfoggeDCon 2, but I've promised myself that I won't go to DC anymore without my honey and I'm not so sure how excited he'll be about the whole idea.
He might enjoy the drum-off. It will be a complicated negotiation, I'm thinking.
Mormon honeys are very strict and controlling.
Who would not want to coe to an UnfoggedCon? The mind boggles.
Emerson, he's not a Mormon; he's a Gentile and a Shia and an Agnostic---all at once!
448: He could just stay in the hotel and watch pay-for-view porn.
I'll certainly suggest the "take a bus for four hours to stay in a shitty motel to watch porn" option, if you think it's a good idea.
I've promised myself that I won't go to DC anymore without my honey
This is an interestingly specific restriction. Why DC?
Oh. I've heard that if you throw yourself on the floor weeping, Shi'a husbands will occasionally let you have contact with your friends. You shouldn't try this too often, though, because eventuall they get wise.
Because she never goes anywhere else.
I may be in DC the week after. Hung over after party?
I still don't quite know why the Gayatollah was running around shirtless.
463: There's probably a really good explanation which is lost in the sands of antiquity.
Wait, didn't w-lfs-n remove the shirt with his teeth?
That only deepens the mystery.
I have the video, folks. Infinite fellatio!
Smasher, did I really say that? I'm sort of proud and ashamed all at the same time.
It was June before my hand felt completely ok again.
Slol, I'll be near enough that week to try to be interested in a sort of party aftershock.
Selling Buck on this idea is sounding more and more difficult. People were eating cookies and drinking tea last year, right?
People were eating cookies and drinking tea last year, right?
Non-alcoholic cider and various baked goods, in fact. Perfectly innocent.
470: I broached it with my wife at dinner last night. Raised eyebrows and a nod were the only response.
In fairness, Labs, someone did ask you how many fellatio.
LB: I'll be in town, so I am definitely coming. I also kept my shirt on the whole time last year, so you can assure Buck that at least some people will be behaving like civilized adults.
In that case I gave a perfectly acceptable response. I stand by my answer.
Buck will show up and outdrink us all.
Rob, you're going to be in town in the happier way, right? Are you hiring?
Even better: I'm not going to the APA *at all*. I'm taking my children to see their grandparents for Christmas.
Nice, Rob! I'll curse your name at the smoker. Actually I'm only going to see people (and maybe talks, if, contrary to precedent, the program is not lame).
how many fellatio
"Fellatio" is a mass noun, not a count noun.
Right, that's "fellatioes".
"Fellatio" is a mass noun, not a count noun.
Somebody needs to read the archives.
I'm always up for partying with slol.
I've said before that I can't go, but I bet that there's a greater than 50/50 chance that Chopper will find a way to make it. It's possible that he might even bring some home cured meats. So, if anyone from Boston manages to make it--and Chopper does bring bacon--would someone please try to squirrel some away for me?
BG: I'll make sure to score (some bacon) for the Boston crowd, if there's any to be had.
Hmmm, I'm actually in (well, near) Toronto for about 4 weeks around Christmas. My grumpy anti-social husband is surprisingly keen to tag along (it's either a bunch of American strangers or stay at home with my family and the kids!) - wonder how much flights cost ...
Woohoo! Intercontinental blog-party!
