Re: Brainy Chicks Through The Ages

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Cool. I was looking for just that kind of thing only the other day.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 8:38 PM
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TROLL! TRRROOOOLLLLLLLLLL!!!!


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 8:39 PM
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You don't think they're really reading those books, do you?


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 8:40 PM
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When were women granted the right to read?


Posted by: anmik | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 8:42 PM
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So, is this the baseball thread?


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 8:43 PM
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Watching other people read, watching other people play baseball, it's about the same level of interesting.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 8:44 PM
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Still, better than the economist thread.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 8:45 PM
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No baseball or reading!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 8:46 PM
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8: I can't view that clip without signing in or logging in to verify that I am 18 years or older. This I am too lazy to do. Can you give me a plot summary or something?


Posted by: Invisible Adjunct | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 8:48 PM
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2: I so love you, Heebie.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 8:48 PM
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Watching economists play baseball: sets the standard for stupefying dullness.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 8:49 PM
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9: I couldn't begin to, no. "NSFW", "Russian" are both true, but minimally descriptive.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 8:49 PM
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11: What about watching baseball players do economics?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 8:50 PM
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Actually, IA, one of the commenters provides a summary:

Pickles...check. Furries...check. TV´╗┐ destruction...check. Flaming Ass...check. Squishing Window Ass...check.

Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 8:50 PM
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But it's really a lot weirder than that.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 8:50 PM
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What about watching baseball players do economics?

I anticipate some moderately interesting blog entries from Curt Schilling as he negotiates his next contract.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 8:51 PM
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11: that was the whole point of Moneyball, no?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 8:51 PM
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17 should be to 13, not 11, but yes, that was a pretty exciting book, somehow.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 8:52 PM
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10: Aw, I love you too, B!


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 8:53 PM
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13: Actually, I'd pay money to watch Manny Ramirez chair a Fed meeting.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 8:56 PM
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That second Vermeer (better image here) is my favorite painting ever.

(Sorry for returning to the boring 'chicks reading' topic.)


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 8:58 PM
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10, 19: Group hug!


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 8:59 PM
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That's a neat site, Blume.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:02 PM
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That's a great painting, Blume. <gayness>Stillness and emotional upheaval, all at once</fontana labs>

Go Sox!


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:03 PM
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It's always good to have a new gallery bookmarked for when it's time to "take care of business."


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:04 PM
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Do you notice the solid middle-American virtue, the warmth and communal spirit, the enthusiasm of the Indians fans? Really, everything that's best about America is in that ballpark. Quite a contrast to Fenway.


Posted by: marcus | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:08 PM
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Praise on unfogged! That two-hour workshop last week on online visual resources with the art history dweeb wasn't all for naught!

I saw the painting about a year and a half ago (that museum in Dresden is INSANE). I kept returning to look at it just one more time. After a few times, the guard spoke to me, saying that several people a day would do the same thing, coming back again and again.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:08 PM
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the guard spoke to me, saying that several people a day would do the same thing, coming back again and again

Huh.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:10 PM
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The gay ones, probably. Or Kotsko trying, trying, trying to "take care of business."


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:11 PM
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I thought Ogged didn't like readers.


Posted by: Lars | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:16 PM
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I confess that I've never gotten into the fascination with Vermeer.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:16 PM
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My friend had a similar experience at the Art Institute in Chicago, going back several times to look at a painting that reminded him of his mother. Some time later his mother mentioned her favorite painting, which was the one he'd been fascinated by.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:17 PM
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Although I really like this one.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:17 PM
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He's the Edward Hopper of the 17th Century. Lonely people love him -- e.g., grad students, cat ladies, Ogged, etc.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:18 PM
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I'm actually not a big Vermeer fan, but I think I can see what someone would like in the one Blume linked.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:20 PM
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I hate on shallow, dweeby youth, others hate on Vermeer. Draw your own conclusions.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:20 PM
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25 - Hey, Kotsko. m. leblanc and I were at the Wack feminist art show this weekend and there was a video of a bunch of women frolicking around in the woods and menstruating on each other. I thought of you.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:23 PM
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I'm all about Vermeer. Hopper too. Well lit realism works for me.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:23 PM
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Hmm. Going through the site Blume linked looking for the ones I've seen in person and remember*, maybe I don't not like Vermeer. The "Woman in Blue Reading a Letter," I also like.

*I think I've been to that Dresden museum, but I don't remember the Vermeer.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:25 PM
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Do you notice the solid middle-American virtue, the warmth and communal spirit, the enthusiasm of the Indians fans?

Speaking of gay.

The mp3 files of Dutch pronunciation on the Vermeer site are a nice touch.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:25 PM
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My friend had a similar experience at the Art Institute in Chicago, going back several times to look at a painting that reminded him of his mother. Some time later his mother mentioned her favorite painting, which was the one he'd been fascinated by.

And his mother's secretary's name was... Lincoln!


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:28 PM
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34 might be right on. This is my second favorite one. I develop attachments to paintings I can see regularly in person, though. This one is in a museum near the state library in Berlin, and on the free admission evening I sometimes go visit it on my way home.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:28 PM
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I theorize that Blume's second-favorite Vermeer depicts the action of the song "The Little Glass of Wine".


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:31 PM
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I like Hopper, but I haven't seen much in person.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:33 PM
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This little glass of wine, I'm gonna let it shine...


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:33 PM
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Boy, things are not going well for the Sox.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:34 PM
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Root for the racist mascot or the racist organization? A tough choice. So I default to rooting against Schilling. Go tribe.


Posted by: anmik | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:34 PM
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Huh. I'm not into Hopper much at all, but Vermeers stop me in my tracks. It should (but apparently can't) go without saying that Vermeer was a much better painter on a purely technical level.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:35 PM
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For those of you who are into Hopper and coming to UnfoggeDCon, there's a big exhibition of his at the National Gallery of Art through January.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:37 PM
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The Red Sox haven't been a racist organization for decades, for chrissakes.

And Schilling apologized for his moronic bush advocacy.

On the other hand it might be sort of a moot point soon enough. Not looking good for them right at this moment.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:37 PM
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I saw "Girl With A Pearl Earring" on my first day in Holland, soon after I had made the typical newbie American mistake and smoked way too much Dutch hash. It was a surprise, I didn't know it was in that museum. I was absolutely transfixed.

On the other hand, a lot of things might have transfixed me in the state I was in. Still, it was pretty amazing.


Posted by: marcus | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:38 PM
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Calling the organization racist was just a joke. Sorry. Not the right time, of course. But defending Schilling? You'll hate yourself in the morning.


Posted by: anmik | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:40 PM
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And Schilling apologized for his moronic bush advocacy.

Really? Where was this? I could use a bright spot in this night of despair.


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:45 PM
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That two-hour workshop last week on online visual resources with the art history dweeb wasn't all for naught!

I should hope fucking not.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:48 PM
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53: on his blog, one of his first entries. He didn't actually apologize for supporting Bush, just for going on TV and saying what he did.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:48 PM
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I'm sorry, Schilling wasn't just on TV, right? Didn't he actively campaign for Bush, meaning go out on the stump in Ohio or some other battleground state?


Posted by: anmik | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:52 PM
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Back on topic.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:52 PM
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57: Sorry.


Posted by: anmik | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:53 PM
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Schilling is mulling a run for Senate after he retires. Judging from his statements, electing him would be like having a particularly sententious warblogger in the Senate.

The more World Series the Red Sox win, the more votes Schilling will get. The future of the nation demands that one root for the Indians.

P.S. note also the homophobia of Red Sox fans, as evidenced in comment #40.


Posted by: marcus | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:55 PM
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48 - Well, on a purely technical level, Vermeer was among the greatest of all time. Hopper was good, but Vermeer in a league above.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:56 PM
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58: It's no problem. Off topic is normal here, so on topic stuff has to be noted.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:58 PM
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56: I'm not going to search through his wordy-ass archives to find it, but the gist of what he said was that he realized that by publicly campaigning for Bush he tarnished the experience of the World Series win for a lot of people, and he felt badly for doing that.

He's still a moron, don't get me wrong. But he genuinely did seem to understand why people would be pissed, and genuinely seemed remorseful. FWIW.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 9:59 PM
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Thanks for that link at 57, eb.

And @! The Schindler referenced there was my undergrad advisor. Made me laugh - everything there very typical of his 'academic' interests.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 10:01 PM
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I should hope fucking not.

It would be interesting to know how Armsmasher came to express himself this way, instead of with the more conventional "I should fucking hope not".


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 10:06 PM
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63 made me very happy. I clapped my hands in glee.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 10:08 PM
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And as chance would have it, I am right now grading an exam question about word order.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 10:09 PM
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Now that 61 has given me license to go off topic, to 62 I say: All of that may be true, but he's still a giant sack of crap. Still, I regret having maligned the organization's good(ish) name, particularly because I'm not that invested in either team.


Posted by: anmik | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 10:09 PM
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I had a total mancrush on Schilling, back when I thought he was just a millionaire athlete/wargames nerd. (He bought out a bunch of titles that Avalon Hill had let go out of print.) Only too late did I realize that he was a sniper eye-customizer.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 10:11 PM
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64: I asked myself a similar question, because it seemed almost stronger with the "fucking" coming later, but I couldn't figure out why.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 10:21 PM
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OT: Magpie and I are going to be in Austin the weekend of November 10 and 11. Anyone up for a meetup?


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 10:22 PM
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More conventional?


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 10:27 PM
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Consider.

But also consider and consider, and then consider whether googlefight is remotely reliable.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 10:30 PM
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Maybe he meant "I fuck, hoping not."


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 10:31 PM
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I should, fucking, hope not


Posted by: feldspar | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 10:32 PM
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I should hope, fucking. Not!


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 10:32 PM
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I should hope. Fucking knots!


Posted by: feldspar | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 10:35 PM
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The lang=en_GB makes me think that they're triggering some wacky localized search in an attempt by google to be helpful. I hate localization. Why can't everyone just speak English?


Posted by: Jake | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 10:36 PM
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Also the owners of googlefight appear to be SEO scum, so I wouldn't be surprised if Google is screwing with them somehow. None of which contradicts Ben, per se, but just may shed light on his results.


Posted by: Jake | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 10:38 PM
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73: "I should hope, fucking not" is closer to the author's true intent.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 10:38 PM
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79: I realized that after teo and feldspar offered better versions, but thanks for making that explicit. Jerk.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 10:40 PM
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None of which contradicts Ben, per se, but just may shed light on his results.

My second two "consider"s were searches conducted through the firefox google thing, so I don't see how any light could be shed on my results through information about googlefight.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 10:41 PM
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77: I think it's sad that in this age of hyper-globalization, we cannot even discuss a localized search without calling it "wacky"


Posted by: feldspar | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 10:42 PM
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Which word order are you less likely to see appear in the sand on a beach, unwritten by human hands?


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 10:43 PM
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If the words have been unwritten, then you won't see them at all, eb.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 10:44 PM
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80: I appreciated the vote of confidence.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 10:44 PM
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That's Antonello da Messina. Also, Richter's Lesende is pretty great.


Posted by: Vance Maverick | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 10:45 PM
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85: Fucking comity!


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 10:45 PM
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unwritten s/b not written


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 10:46 PM
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You know what else are pretty great, Vance Maverick? Polmo Polpo's Like Hearts Swelling and Lasse Marhaug & Nils Henrik Asheim's Grand Mutation, especially the latter, which kicks all kind of ass.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 10:47 PM
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I really, really want to see the set of Richter abstracts that Robert Storr put together for the Venice Biennale, but I couldn't find anyone to pay me to go this year.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 10:47 PM
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Bill Frisell's Richter 858 is a swell album as well.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 10:49 PM
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72.3:consider[...en-US%3Aofficial&hs=hR0&q=%22i+hope+fucking+not%22&btnG=Search]

Now that Osama ben w-lfs-n has invented the word, would someone look in the 2017 OED and tell me what hopefucking is?

max
['Since it seems to pair up nicely with sportfucking.']


Posted by: max | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 10:51 PM
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What on God's green earth are you on about, max?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 10:53 PM
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I didn't see those either. I did see a roomful of Richter abstracts in the Biennale in 1997 -- very very beautiful stuff (though with that deliberate chill).

Can you point me to some samples, Ben w-lfs-n? Or give a frame of reference?


Posted by: Vance Maverick | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 10:54 PM
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I should say I haven't found anyone yet who will send me this year. Bidding is still open, folks.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 10:55 PM
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That comment wasn't really directed solely at you, Vance.

Seems as if you can get track one from the Marhaug/Asheim here, and there are samples of the Frisell on the Amazon page, though I should note that the first thirty seconds of the first track aren't really representative.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 10:58 PM
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Venice Biennale

Armsmasher, can you explain this to me? I thought there was only one biennale. Like, that it was a thing. But my dad was invited to be in a biennale this year that I think was in Florence, not Venice, and I saw a "biennale" of printmaking once in Cairo. What's the deal?


Posted by: m. leblanc | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 11:12 PM
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Thanks, that sample is nice. Tasteful ;-). More seriously, it seems still to be in the musical realm of much post-'60s electronic music. Back ca. 1990, I remember people asking, as a wry commonplace, "Why is there no fast electronic music?" Now, obviously, we're all familiar with e.m. that has a fast pulse...but I think the question stands.


Posted by: Vance Maverick | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 11:14 PM
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There was an article somewhere recently on the mad proliferation of biennial exhibitions. (The Whitney is another one.)


Posted by: Vance Maverick | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 11:15 PM
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Having worked on the first Taipei Biennial in 1998 and the first Yokohama Triennale in 2001, can you speak to this year's experience of directing the first Singapore Biennale? ... from this, which is not what I was remembering.


Posted by: Vance Maverick | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 11:19 PM
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Biennials are on the wane stateside but seem to be popping up in places that are just coming around to a contemporary art tradition (e.g., Istanbul, Moscow). There's only one Biennale, and that's Venice, which was the first. But there are any number of biennales—that just means a show that happens every two years.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 11:20 PM
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Oh, and sorry I missed you while you were here. I just finished my review of Wack!, actually.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 10-16-07 11:21 PM
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Yeah, dude, that was lame how you were like, out of town or whatever other important thing you were doing. Although going to Wack! with Becks meant we basically got to look at porn together for like 3 hours. So.


Posted by: m. leblanc | Link to this comment | 10-17-07 12:17 AM
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And now I have to google Wack! And then go to sleep.


Posted by: anmik | Link to this comment | 10-17-07 12:53 AM
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Magpie and I are going to be in Austin the weekend of November 10 and 11. Anyone up for a meetup?

Sure!


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 10-17-07 5:54 AM
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Me too.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-17-07 6:52 AM
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He's the Edward Hopper of the 17th Century. Lonely people love him -- e.g., grad students, cat ladies, Ogged, etc.

Interesting.

This was the painting that struck me the most at the Chicago Art Institute, or possibly the Chicago Institute of Art. Not sure why. And that leads us into the other new thread about Chicago.

But there are no more Cubs games.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 10-17-07 7:24 AM
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Stillness and emotional upheaval, all at once

"A certain quiet intensity" is the phrase you're looking for.

That Vermeer site is amazing. Too bad I never have time to explore collections like that as throughly as I'd like.

The Astronomer is one of my favorite Vermeers.


Posted by: Populuxe | Link to this comment | 10-17-07 8:53 AM
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I did some neuropsych testing recently, and it seems that my visual-spatial IQ stinks.

The facial recognition stuff is really hard. There's one bit where you have to look at people's eyes and describe qhat they're feeling or doing without the benefit of seeing the rest of the face. It was really challenging for me.

One of the faces looked like GWB in his 30's. I told the post-doc, and she agreed that it looked like a younger Bush. I said that that fact might affect my interpretation of his expression.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 10-17-07 10:17 AM
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105, 106: Sweet! Does sometime on the 11th work for you guys? We have a commitment that Saturday evening.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 10-17-07 11:23 AM
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Count me in too, as long as Sir Kraab remembers to remind me. How about brunch on the 11th?


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 10-17-07 12:54 PM
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Mmmm, brunch -- sounds good. Where's good these days?

Heebie, you and Jammies free?


Posted by: Magpie | Link to this comment | 10-17-07 8:50 PM
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Just a quick update, Sir Kraab and I will be out of town this weekend but let's talk on Monday or Tuesday and settle on a plan.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 10-18-07 2:08 PM
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