Re: Two Men Enter, One Man Leaves

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Ogged, you already tried gaying up the blog to erase the feminine yesterday, remember? Try something else.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 3:26 PM
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Have to admit the post title is genius, though.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 3:28 PM
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Hasn't Putin actually killed people? I think he might have the advantage in hand-to-hand combat.

He might lose the "don't be a creepy authoritarian with little squinty eyes" contest.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 3:28 PM
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Last post! Bwahahaha.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 3:28 PM
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Yeah, we had the judo conversation, right? More importantly, why am I still reading this goddamned blog instead of working out?


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 3:28 PM
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Obama has an impressive farmer's tan.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 3:30 PM
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why am I still reading this goddamned blog instead of working out?

I've been wondering this all day long...


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 3:30 PM
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Are there any porn workout tapes? Not just "exercise session devolves into orgy", but "fuck your way to thinner thghs" kinds of things?


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 3:30 PM
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White guys bleed more easily.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 3:31 PM
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Dammit. I tried to post something about how Katherine's last comment on that Other Thread was worth saving for another day. Like next month. Shut down in favor of male torsos.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 3:33 PM
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Thank you, ogged; now I can log off this damned blog and go do something constructive. Or at least throw something at the construction workers outside of my office window who are making a fucking racket.


Posted by: DominEditrix | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 3:33 PM
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White guys bleed more easily.

Assuming they have the time.


Posted by: water moccasin | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 3:34 PM
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Is Putin working on his Hunter S Thompson impersonation in that picture?


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 3:34 PM
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It may be closed, but we'll always have 1000.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 3:35 PM
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He might lose the "don't be a creepy authoritarian with little squinty eyes" contest.

It's about damn time. It's been neck and neck for years now.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 3:36 PM
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Or at least throw something at the construction workers outside of my office window

But feminism would have you believe that the construction workers are the oppressors.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 3:43 PM
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Obama would also lose the crucial kissing four-year-olds on the stomach contest. Shame -- can't win them all.


Posted by: Klug | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 3:52 PM
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I don't get it.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 3:56 PM
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Single combat is a patriarchal institution.

Neither of them has visible body hair...shaving?


Posted by: PerfectlyGoddamnDelightful | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 3:56 PM
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I don't get it.

Great, start 'em young.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 3:58 PM
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Ogged, you should take a hiatus from failing to cite your sources.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 4:11 PM
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Is Putin working on his Hunter S Thompson impersonation in that picture?

That was my first reaction: Is that Hunter S Thompson? What's he got to do with Obama?

All is clear now.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 4:22 PM
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10 great complaint! i agree :)
though Putin is kin, he is a tatarin ircc
i personally prefer his rival Khodorkovski
though that would mean something like Russia in chaos may be



Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 4:57 PM
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Come on. This would not even be close. Putin is a legitimate badass, and a scary man. The far tougher question: is there any other head of state who could plausibly give him a scare in a fair fight? Maybe someone who rose to power fresh out of the miltary, and still young enough to handle himself. I can't think of anyone offhand, even if you go back a ways in recent history.


Posted by: DL | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 5:02 PM
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Maybe the time will come for gigantic robots.

Also, he's none too impressed with Cthulhu.


Posted by: Michael Vanderwheel, B.A. | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 5:13 PM
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Maybe someone who rose to power fresh out of the miltary, and still young enough to handle himself.

King Abdullah of Jordan?


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 5:17 PM
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Putin apparently speaks Tatar reasonably well.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 5:17 PM
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Thanks to the shadows, Obama's head looks kind of odd, like it doesn't belong. I look forward to the Right-wing bloggers involved in the Dan Rather kerning scandal to tell us that it's Photoshopped.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 5:17 PM
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The link in 25 should be the first example they use in journalism school the day they're teaching "the lede."


Posted by: mike d | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 5:18 PM
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is there any other head of state who could plausibly give him a scare in a fair fight?

Hugo Chavez, maybe.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 5:18 PM
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Here's the photo of King Abdullah that made me think of him. Hoo-ah!


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 5:20 PM
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25: The time for giant robots has already come.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 5:21 PM
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Thanks to the shadows, Obama's head looks kind of odd, like it doesn't belong.

I don't know if you can blame that on the shadows. The guy's just got a weird head.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 5:24 PM
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Abdullah and Putin are both pretty tiny guys.

re: western politicians and violence.

Previous generations were, of course, littered with guys who'd seen serious active service in wars.

More recently, iirc, Paddy Ashdown [ex SBS and Commando ] always refused to say whether he'd killed anyone.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 5:29 PM
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Abdullah and Putin are both pretty tiny guys.

Ah, then Putin won't be able to get as much judo leverage against him. Even better.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 5:31 PM
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30: Chavez was my first thought as well.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 5:33 PM
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The look on Obama's face suggests he ate Putin.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 5:43 PM
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Maybe Chavez circa 1992 or so. Now he's 53 and pudgy.

I don't know enough about Abdullah, but Wikipedia tells me he went to Deerfield. That has to count against him in the toughness category, unless he was a recruited hockey player...

Of the three suggestions, I'd have to pick Paddy Ashdown with the special forces background, but it still seems that an ex-KGB is not a bad bet.


Posted by: DL | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 5:46 PM
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Once we elect President Kimbo Slice, he'll show Putin what's what.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 5:51 PM
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ex-KGB or not, Judo is bad-ass. Putin wins!

Maybe Idi Amin would have bitten his throat out, though.


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 6:06 PM
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Wasn't Abdullah an opthamologist?


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 6:39 PM
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That's Syria, Wrongshore.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 6:40 PM
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Yes, of course Putin wins. But what about backup? I have to imagine that the Hulkster could kick some KGB ass.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 6:44 PM
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Musharref was a commando; he seems to have had more talent for that than for being president of Pakistan.


Posted by: JWP | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 6:46 PM
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I don't get it either. But at least my excuse is that I'm a girl.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 6:58 PM
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45: Sexist.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 6:59 PM
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Musharref was a commando

For that matter, so was Ehud Barak... coincidence? I think not!


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 7:01 PM
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47: So is the closet Islamofascist thing OK if Israel did it first?


Posted by: Not Prince Hamlet | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 7:11 PM
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Speaking of Israelis, Ariel Sharon was quite a badass in his prime, and to this day he can take a punch without flinching.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 7:13 PM
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46: If you can't beat 'em, give up, I always say.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 7:14 PM
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I'm sure there are world leaders who could take Putin, it's just that we don't know what most world leaders look like.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 7:29 PM
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Speaking of presidential photoshopping controversy...


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 7:32 PM
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No one mentions Bush? He's reported to be extremely fit. I believe I've read that he can bench his body weight a dozen times or more, which is not bad for his age.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 7:32 PM
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51: ...when they were children.


Posted by: Merganser | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 7:34 PM
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52: OMG, they AIRBRUSHED him?! How are real men supposed to live up to media portrayals of these impossible, artificial standards? I'm feeling oppressed.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 7:34 PM
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Ariel Sharon was quite a badass in his prime, and to this day he can take a punch without flinching.

Is nobody else going to point it out? Okay, fine: of course he doesn't flinch at a punch these days, what with the irreversible coma and all.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 7:36 PM
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55: Full story about Sarkozy. Feel the oppression, BL.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 7:39 PM
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And I think 56 belongs on Standpipe's blog.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 7:40 PM
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Let me agree with B. this once. Homeoerotic masochistic fantasies, etc. Not that there is anything wrong with that.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 7:41 PM
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Yes of course you're right, Stanley. I don't know what I was thinking.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 7:43 PM
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Too late, JM. You've been sent to Standpipe's for now.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 7:48 PM
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31: King Abdullah wrestled for Deerfield.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 7:58 PM
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The crazy thing is, since Vox makes a blog for you whether you want one or not, there is actually a blog called "Standpipe's Blog" now. Oops.

Naturally, the blog here known as "Standpipe's blog" goes by another title altogether.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 8:08 PM
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Why would you sign up for Vox if you didn't want a blog?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 8:11 PM
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Might you be using vox's privacy settings to exclude me, Standpipe Bridgeplate?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 8:12 PM
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63.2 belongs on Standpipe's blog.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 8:16 PM
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Why would you sign up for Vox if you didn't want a blog?

So I could leave a comment on someone else's Vox blog.

Might you be using vox's privacy settings to exclude me, Standpipe Bridgeplate?

Certainly not, young Ben. You see the same thing that I see. There simply aren't any posts. "Standpipe's Blog" isn't a real blog.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 8:22 PM
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Ben, your question is answered on...... oh, never mind.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 8:23 PM
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You see the same thing that I see.

But do we see it the same way? HMMMM.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 8:24 PM
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Let's describe what we see in the language of sense data and compare results.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 8:27 PM
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70: I can't see it at all!


Posted by: Thomas Nagel | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 8:29 PM
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"Standpipe's Blog" isn't a real blog.

That explanation surely belongs on Standpipe's blog.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 8:32 PM
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It could be the first post!


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 8:37 PM
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That explanation surely belongs on Standpipe's blog.

I really don't know what you're talking about.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 8:39 PM
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Exactly.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 8:40 PM
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I'll leave while you folks to sort out use and mention. Toodles!


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 8:41 PM
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What is this "Standpipe's Blog" anyway?


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 8:44 PM
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It's like ogged getting laid: never happens, but it's always right there.

[cross-posted to the blog in-question]


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 8:46 PM
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"while you folks to"

ZOMG PROOFREADING ERROR.

I knew the person commenting wasn't the *real* standpipe.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 8:51 PM
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You're on crack. The real Standpipe proofreading errors all the time.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 9:00 PM
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I'm sure there are world leaders who could take Putin, it's just that we don't know what most world leaders look like.

I'm not so sure. Nowadays all the world leaders are either young but nerdy (Rafael Correa, Daily Show correspondent John Oliver), or tough but old. Or, of course, both old and nerdy, in the traditional manner. GW Bush is probably in the top 5% for physical fitness, but he doesn't know any fighting techniques, unlike his father.

King Mswati of Swaziland might be a good choice. He looks pretty tough and is only 39. But his decadent lifestyle has probably made him a softy, and judging from photos he doesn't spend his free time working out.

My pick would be Paul Kagame, a longtime military tough guy who is younger than Putin (but still 50). He's awfully tall and skinny, though, which is not good against a judoka.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 9:12 PM
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81: King Mswati of Swaziland might be a good choice

Well, he did have to beat out 66 half-brothers to become King, so he has that going for him.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 9:18 PM
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Yahya Jammeh led a military coup at 29 and is now 42. Another possibility. Also, he is publicizing an antiparasitic herb mixture that also happens to cure AIDS.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 9:38 PM
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Prime Minister Stephenson King of Saint Lucia looks very imposing, but there's hardly any information on him on the internet.

OK, no more of this.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 9:43 PM
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76,80: You can't have your use and mention it to.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 10:05 PM
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Ned,

he doesn't know any fighting techniques

Doesn't he, though?


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 10:53 PM
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86: That's almost as precious as this moment from last night's SOTU address:

Rep. Barney Frank was on his cell when President Bush passed by and joked, "Tell him I said hello." Later, the openly gay congressman told him it was his boyfriend on the line, reports Matthew Huisman of the Boston University-Washington News Service. "Oh, okay, I hope he appreciates how open-minded I am," Bush said.

[source (scroll down)]


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 11:13 PM
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tous les hommes naissent libres et egaux MAIS...


Posted by: Matt F | Link to this comment | 01-30-08 11:33 PM
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Hey, are we counting guns? 'Cause there's that South African dude Zuma that keeps singing about his machine gun.


Posted by: Klug | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 12:52 AM
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#39: Once we elect President Kimbo Slice, he'll show Putin what's what.

Sure, Kimbo has done well in backyard political debates on YouTube, but he will get destroyed as soon as he goes up against leading professional politicians in televised panel discussions.


Posted by: Gaijin Biker | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 12:55 AM
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Kimbo Slice will run this, where this is America.

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Why didn't anybody tell me Jackass 2 was so fucking funny?

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Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 1:00 AM
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Ned's mention of Stephenson reminded me that John Compton was a witness in a case. The most impressive person I've ever met, going away.

He might not have been able to do judo when I met him -- he was already in his mid-70s -- but was every bit as deadly just raising his eyebrows.


Posted by: Nápi | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 5:31 AM
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Why is Mr. Bean president of France?


Posted by: strasmangelo jones | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 6:02 AM
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Why is Mr. Bean president of France?

Why is a semi-domesticated chimpanzee president of the United States? This sort of shit happens, hadn't you noticed?


Posted by: OneFatEnglishman | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 6:58 AM
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I gave up on America's ability to keep apes out of the Oval Office a while ago.


Posted by: strasmangelo jones | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 7:04 AM
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Why is a semi-domesticated chimpanzee president of the United States?

It's a representative democracy.


Posted by: Nápi | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 7:04 AM
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Why is Mr. Bean president of France?

Because Segolene Royal is too sexy for France, and also comes from a terrorist family.

Trivia: Segolene was born in Dakar.

Weird trivia: Royal sued her father because he refused to divorce her mother and pay alimony and child support to finance the children's education. She won the case after many years in court, shortly before Jacques Royal died of lung cancer in 1981. Six of the eight children had refused to see him again, Ségolène included.[3]

Website searches for nude pictures of Segolene


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 7:18 AM
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I feel your lack-of-sexy-world-leaders pain, Emerson.


Posted by: strasmangelo jones | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 7:22 AM
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"He can be so touchy". Marginally SFW.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 7:26 AM
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95:Racist

Obama's Beef

Guest post by Jeffrey Tulis at Balkinization


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 7:30 AM
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92" interesting!

Note the name of the third person pictured on this Saint Lucia government website. I couldn't really say what career that name best suits him for.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 8:18 AM
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Ha!


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 9:35 AM
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I see a future in modeling for Putin--if Soldier of Forturne magazine buys out L.L. Bean.


Posted by: Populuxe | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 10:03 AM
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Soldier of Bean?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 10:05 AM
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Soldier of Bean?

According to stras @93, the French army


Posted by: OneFatEnglishman | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 10:12 AM
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Or "L.L. Fortune."


Posted by: Populuxe | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 10:19 AM
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So, if Obama wins in November, will he be the first US president to have distributed topless photographs of himself?

(THE VOICE IN MY HEAD: No! William Howard Taft OH GOD NO I THINK I'M GOING BLIND)


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 10:44 AM
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Sizeist.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 10:45 AM
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107: No.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 10:50 AM
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And.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 10:51 AM
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And this bad boy. (It's his sculling outfit.)


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 11:16 AM
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96 wins the internets.


Posted by: Not Prince Hamlet | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 12:01 PM
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96 is funny, but it does not with the internets. 111, however, might possibly be a finalist in the "win the internets" contest.

Royal sued her father because he refused to divorce her mother and pay alimony and child support to finance the children's education.

That's really fucking cool. Good for her.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 12:15 PM
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This Kleiman post lays out the non-scary explanation for Obama's appeal to conservatives really nicely.

/pimping Barry O


Posted by: Not Prince Hamlet | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 12:34 PM
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114:Weber on Authority esp read charismatic authority

Ya know, we sometimes talk as if the differences between leaders, inspirational figures, authorities, etc are perfectly clear, and as if authoritarianism is always and everywhere bad.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 12:59 PM
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Leadership's Relation with Management

Facile list of distinctions, but this is MBA "science". Clinton vs Obama?


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 1:15 PM
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La la la la la la la


Posted by: Not Prince Hamlet | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 1:15 PM
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"The second type of authority is Rational-legal authority. It is that form of authority which depends for its legitimacy on formal rules and established laws of the state, which are usually written down, and are often very complex. The power of the rational legal authority is mentioned in the constitution. Modern societies depend on legal-rational authority. Government officials are the best example of this form of authority which is prevalent all over the world.

The third form of authority is Charismatic authority. Here, the charisma of the individual or the leader plays an important role." ...from the Wiki link at 115

I haven't yet figured out why process liberals who have such a great investment in "rational-legal authority" would be attracted to a charismatic figure. Working on it, read Hannah Arendt last night on the differences between movements and parties.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 1:25 PM
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I met someone last summer who had worked for Teodoro Obiang. He had some fucked up stories to tell. It doesn't sound like he would win in any hand-to-hand combat (schizophrenic meth heads can be unreliable in that way), but dude has minions.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 1:31 PM
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Interesting! I was hoping that Eve would become the Grace Kelly to Equatorial Guinea's Monaco soon, but it looks like their relationship is over.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 1:35 PM
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Oudemia-

I tried, but my VCR gets crappy reception on PBS; would it be possible for you to send along the Parthenon show from NOVA?

I have no vaguely-discreet way to express my email, but will do so if nec.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 1:42 PM
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Sure thing. It is sitting happily on my Tivo. Is their an email link on your blog link there? Otherwise you can email me at gmail.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 1:45 PM
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122: Sweet Jesus. "Is their"? Seriously? I'm going to go drink Nyquil.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 1:54 PM
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You can watch the whole thing online, dinosaurs.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 3:29 PM
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Resolved: Obama and Putin are either naturally hairless or wax their chests.


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