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Pharmaceuticals don't have side effects, you socialist.

But I have heard the same. Start with the patch.


Posted by: baa | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 2:34 PM
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The tiny machine-elves tell me that FL is full of crap.

Actually, the warning is appreciated. I haven't started it yet but it's one of the things Rah and I would both want to watch for; only I am going to be taking it, meaning I'll have the assistance of someone who's not on it when assessing any effects.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 2:39 PM
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Were these side-effects you describe things like severe irritability and intense craving for a cigarette?


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 2:42 PM
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Good call. I'd extend this recommendation to anything that futzes with hormones or endorphins. You are no longer a reliable narrator; have a friend or partner monitor this for you.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 2:42 PM
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Also.


Posted by: PeaDub | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 2:43 PM
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You know, you didn't actually tell us what the psychological effects are. Was he lifted onto clouds of good will towards all humankind? Did he decide he was a blueberry muffin? If I'm in for a free high with this thing, all the better.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 2:45 PM
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6: But that would just give you an incentive to lapse and then try to quit again, McMuffinpants.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 2:47 PM
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Pfft. Nobody's ever a reliable narrator. Your judgment of mood wouldn't be affected if you didn't want it to be affected.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 2:51 PM
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A friend of mine had a lot of success with it, negligible side effects. He'd tried W/llb/tr/n before and that made him REALLY WEIRD -- his doctor told him he should probably never do coke, as his brain seems hyper-sensitive to that kind of chemical, whatever it's called.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 2:57 PM
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Several people mention that they want to try using Ch/n/t/x to quit smoking.

What about the addiction to baroque google-proofing? How does one stop that?

And what is "Ch/n/t/x"?


Posted by: PerfectlyGoddamnDelightful | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 2:58 PM
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8: Your judgment of mood wouldn't be affected if you didn't want it to be affected

Yes, our "little men" are always in complete control, except when they decide not to be, but they really still are then, too.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 3:01 PM
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PGD - it's a drug that simultaneously inhibits the body's processing of nicotine and makes smoking less pleasant (the doctor told me if it worked it would make them "taste funny" in an unpleasant way as it ramped up). One takes the drug and smokes normally for a week, then tries to quit smoking while staying on the drug for 11 more weeks to make relapse less likely.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 3:02 PM
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Why are we googleproofing a pharmaceutical?


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 3:02 PM
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And what is "Ch/n/t/x"?

It's slang for crystal meth.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 3:03 PM
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13: We don't want to hurt its feelings, Brock.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 3:05 PM
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12: and what is the name of this mysterious compound? All I ask for is the missing vowels.

13: I don't think there is a "why" to googleproofing around here any more, I think it's a compulsive tic.


Posted by: PerfectlyGoddamnDelightful | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 3:05 PM
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16.1: u, u, o, i, æ, and y, not in that order.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 3:06 PM
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It's so the pharmaceutical companies' online marketing campaigns won't be undercut by having people who google drug names end up here instead of the company's site.


Posted by: Not Prince Hamlet | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 3:07 PM
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Can't someone design a real Antabuse for smoking? That makes you puke and turn green and writhe in agony? This would also help us non-smokers indulge our increasing sadism toward the smoking population. It's not enough to see them huddled outside office buildings in the cold!


Posted by: PerfectlyGoddamnDelightful | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 3:07 PM
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I'm sorry, should have said "Can't someone design a real Ant/b/s for smoking?"


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 3:08 PM
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16: follow the link in 5.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 3:08 PM
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Best of luck with the quitting, McManley.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 3:10 PM
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Posted by: ////// /////// | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 3:12 PM
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Why would anyone want an Antibes for smoking? Other than the smokers.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 3:13 PM
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I Google-proofed on the half-formed thought that it might ward off spambots that would only serve to aggravate our kind hosts. But all I got were hurt feelings only a cigarette can cure.

Actually, anecdata that it might be negatively mood-altering makes me think I should wait one more week as I will also be on-call this week, a state that is also negatively mood-altering. I would rather start it in a circumstance including fewer factors that could cloud assessment.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 3:15 PM
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i am so sure that i can start and quit smoking whenever i want without any medication
don't know how i can quit procrastinating
online instead of concentrating on what i'm doing though


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 3:17 PM
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Supplement any drugs with the website whyquit-dot-com. The site is all about the cold turkey quit (so ignore that part) but when I was quitting (not cold-turkey) there was a ton of useful information there that gave me ah-ha moments. Those ah-ha moments, in turn, have allowed me to keep my quit for over three years with the certainty that I'll never start again.

Good luck!


Posted by: tamens | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 3:23 PM
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don't know how i can quit procrastinating
online instead of concentrating on what i'm doing though

We'll send you some drugs, read.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 3:23 PM
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And what is "Ch/n/t/x"?

Ch(ai)n (-wielding domina)t(ri)x. That's how I quit.


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 3:26 PM
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link in 5: apparently the most Chan/tix can do for you is to replace an addiction to nicotine with an addiction to Chan/tix. And that's if you're lucky.


Posted by: PerfectlyGoddamnDelightful | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 3:32 PM
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30: So it's pretty much the perfect drug, at least until it goes off patent.


Posted by: Not Prince Hamlet | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 3:35 PM
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Don't believe that stuff about side effects. I had a girlfriend taking an anti-depressant that warned of "sexual side effects," but she hardly wanted to have sex at all.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 3:40 PM
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slightly related, I had to ditch my nuvaring this week as it was making me feel like absolute hell.


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 3:44 PM
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33: Did it make you fat? My gf thinks it's making her fat.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 3:52 PM
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I lost weight actually because I was nauseous all day and miserably depressively mood swing-y. But they do say it can cause weight gain, 3-5lbs. Which would hardly make one fat.


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 3:55 PM
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I think my Nuvaring is making me fat.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 3:55 PM
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Yummm, some pretty serious psychological effects.

But I might quit smoking, feel better and live longer, so gotta pass.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 3:58 PM
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Thank goodness for 36. Based on 35 alone I would think that our slothful habits and consumption of rich, buttery foods had something to do with it, or that it correlated meaningfully to my own recent weight gain.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 3:59 PM
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Put your Nuvaring right back in, McManus!


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 4:00 PM
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Birth control is the worst, man. Like this anti-smoking drug, you're just coasting along going, "Oh my God, why I am I such a heinous bitch and gaining weight and crying and not all into sex anymore? Guess the awesomeness of youth is wearing off me and I'm becoming a deeply unlovable hateful freak. Sigh." And everyone else is all, "Yeah, guess so." My doctor suggested maybe I was eating too much and I should go into therapy.

I started feeling better within a few days of ditching the pill.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 4:21 PM
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That's how I've been feeling and that coincides pretty much with the Nuvaring and the marriage. Such a convoluted causal chain! I never used to have problems with the pill, but I think I've outgrown hormonal birth control.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 4:29 PM
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I had no problems with either the pill or the mirena iud, save getting pregnant on both, but the nuvaring really destroyed my brain.


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 4:33 PM
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I know whenever people talk about gaining weight on the pill, Apostopher pops in and links to studies showing that the pill doesn't cause weight gain. Which may be true for the average population, but I know whenever I took it, I'd be really hungry all of the time. So, true, the pill didn't directly cause weight gain as a side effect, but something in my brain would change and I'd be hungry all the time and if I didn't keep it in check, I'd eat more and gain weight.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 4:40 PM
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My doctor suggested maybe I was eating too much and I should go into therapy.

Sounds like a brilliant medical mind there.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 4:41 PM
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Also, after everyone was talking about the fertility awareness stuff the other day, I went and looked it up on the Planned Parenthood site. It talked about tracking ovulation by charting your temperature every morning and recommended that for best results you should take your temperature anally.

My first thought: "That's silly. If a woman wanted to have something stuck up her ass every day, there'd be a much easier way not to get pregnant."


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 4:44 PM
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I know I gain weight on the pill. I tried NuvaRing, but for the life of me couldn't figure out where to put it.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 4:45 PM
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If a woman wanted to have something stuck up her ass every day, there'd be a much easier way not to get pregnant

... laydeez.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 4:46 PM
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You using one of these , there, Becks?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 4:54 PM
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Dudes and laydeez, the pill is AWESOME and quitting smoking SUCKS.

That is all.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 5:06 PM
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Oh, but thank you for your concern, Labs. No, seriously. It's nice to know you care.

D'you know, there's really no way to say that kind of thing without sounding witheringly sarcastic.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 5:07 PM
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A quick anecdote on Chaoduyfv***ntix: my friend who's been on it a while said the only side effect he'd had was remarkably intense dreams, and pleasant ones at that. Actually the word he used was more like "pleasurable", come to think of it, & his eyes were a bit glazed as he discussed it...

The anecdotal downside is that when I saw him last night he lit a cigar, though only briefly (I think 3rd time for the same cigar) & socially (everydamnbody else there smokes).


Posted by: Rah | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 5:13 PM
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So, true, the pill didn't directly cause weight gain as a side effect, but something in my brain would change and I'd be hungry all the time and if I didn't keep it in check, I'd eat more and gain weight.

I used to refer to the phenomenon as "the invisible baby wants a pizza."


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 5:22 PM
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And whatever the invisible baby wants, the invisible baby gets.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 5:31 PM
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51: Effexor does that too. I totally love the Effexor dream effect.

Maybe I *should* get Chanwhateverthehellitisx, and see if doubling up is even better!


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 5:35 PM
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for best results you should take your temperature anally

Eew. Then you not only have the annoyance of taking your temperature every morning, you've gotta wash the thermometer every day, too.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 5:48 PM
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you've gotta wash the thermometer every day, too

What? Why?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 6:17 PM
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I had to ditch my nuvaring this week as it was making me feel like absolute hell

Bummer. BR and I are together because of the Nuvaring.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 6:34 PM
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BR and I are together because of the Nuvaring.

Funny, that's not the story I heard.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 6:42 PM
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I told you that in confidence!!!!


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 6:44 PM
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The Nuvaring seems to have played a surprisingly dramatic role in a number of narratives ....


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 6:45 PM
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60:

If they only made in colored, you would know when it came out!!!!


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 6:47 PM
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59: Dude, what are you talking about? It was, like, the second thing she told me at la grande fiesta. I like asking how people met; it's a more fun party question than "What do you do?"


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 6:47 PM
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Wait, you got together because you found her nuvaring hanging on you?


Posted by: Sybil Vane | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 6:48 PM
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45: That's bizarre. I've seen a lot of termperature-based fertility-awareness information and that's the first thing I've ever seen that recommended using an anal thermometer. It makes some sense that it would probably be more accurate, but Jesus.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 6:48 PM
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Witt:

You were not paying attention. My dad the ob/gyn. Her friend the NuvaRing rep/pimp. Hook my son up and sell more Nuva Rings.

All about the NuvaRing sales.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 6:49 PM
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Wait, you got together because you found her nuvaring hanging on you?

haha But, one day, my then-fiancee and I both asked each other about this clear round thing that had been sitting on our dresser. We suddenly had this OH SHIT look and realized it was the Nuva Ring that had come out.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 6:51 PM
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I am stupid. I don't think of NuvaRing as a drug, so I didn't connect your 57 to the story I heard.

(But I did so hear the story! And if BR's reading this I hope she does not feel that I am violating the sanctity of off-blog communication.)


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 6:53 PM
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She is pissed and disappointed with you Witt. We are very private people who do not share every intimate detail with Philly girls.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 6:54 PM
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you've gotta wash the thermometer every day, too.

That makes it taste funny, Blume.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 6:57 PM
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Apostopher pops in and links to studies

Not this time! It's a brave new world!


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 6:58 PM
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54: whoah. I have a friend who complained bitterly about that effect - she felt exhausted by her dreams every time she woke up, and needed much more sleep to feel reasonably rested. That lots of them were intense *and* unpleasant probably didn't help any.


Posted by: Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 7:05 PM
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Chin Tax? Chain Tux? Chorion Tix?


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 7:07 PM
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Someone I know described Ch/n/t/x as "the best anti-depressant I've ever taken."


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 7:07 PM
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People, don't name your kids things like Jim Smith. I promise you, it will present them with a host of difficulties later in life.

Like when they try to rent an apartment and their common name comes up with 8 evictions over a 14-month period, some of which are spaced 2 to 3 days apart.

Another lesson: don't rent from lazy asses who can't be bothered to look use their brains.

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Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 7:15 PM
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People, don't name your kids things like Jim Smith. I promise you, it will present them with a host of difficulties later in life.

I reiterate my usual statement in support of unusual names.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 7:23 PM
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my usual statement??


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 7:29 PM
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Yes, my usual statement.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 7:30 PM
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I didn't want to look up the link at work to back up my 45 but here it is. With a nod to apostropher, too:

A rectal or oral basal temperature thermometer can be bought in most drugstores for about $10. Generally, rectal readings are more reliable. But whichever you choose, take your temperature the same way every day.

Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 7:49 PM
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But whichever you choose, take your temperature the same way every day...

...or, if you must alternate, be sure to purchase two thermometers.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 7:55 PM
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One of my father's patents was for a thermometer sterilizer. If you've seen a thermometer sterilizer in a doctor's office, my dad probably invented it.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 8:02 PM
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78 is Teo's usual statement about unusual names?


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 8:07 PM
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80: thermometer fertilizers are something we all have, of course.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 8:12 PM
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Though Rick Santorum might try to deny it.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 8:15 PM
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My publication record, meager though it be, is well-hid. Unintentional appellation steganography.


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 8:24 PM
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78 is Teo's usual statement about unusual names?

Yep. "Rectal" is a much more reliable unusual name than "Oral."


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 8:28 PM
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Just ask Rectal Roberts. His university is much more respectable than his brother's.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 8:29 PM
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86. 'rectitudo et virtus'


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 8:31 PM
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a thermometer sterilizer
thermometers are usually kept dipped in whatever alcohol you have,
very easy


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 8:34 PM
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thermometers are usually kept dipped in whatever alcohol you have

No way am I using my Scotch for that. Well, oral, maybe.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 8:52 PM
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"...uh, you might not want to drink that..."


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 8:53 PM
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Mmmm, peaty!


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 8:55 PM
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My dad used an iodine disinfectant and had a way to sequence them so that they spent enough time in the disinfectant (i.e., didn't use the same one twice in a row.) It also submerged them completely whereas the competing methods often only sterilized one end.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 8:57 PM
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Oral's brother is named Anal, not Rectal. The third brother is named Genital.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 8:58 PM
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Rectal must be a cousin, then.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 8:59 PM
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"Oh my God, why I am I such a heinous bitch and gaining weight and crying and not all into sex anymore?

That's exactly how I feel these days.

Why the hell do they call it Ch/n/t/x in the US and Ch/mp/x in Europe? An in-law who works for M/r/ck tells me that they devote hundreds, if not thousands, of work-hours to inventing the perfect name for a new drug. Do Europeans have some historical attachment to "mp" combinations?

thermometers are usually kept dipped in whatever alcohol you have

Ten year-old Scotch?

(Way pwned by Jesus)


Posted by: Populuxe | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 9:01 PM
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scotch is too weak for desinfection i think
70%-100% alcohol i was thinking, not of drinking variety


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 9:05 PM
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Ch/mp/x

Chumpux?

M/r/ck

Moorock?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 9:13 PM
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70%-100% alcohol i was thinking, not of drinking variety

Not unless you're really serious about it.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 9:14 PM
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Champeux. It's absorbed through the follicles of the scalp.


Posted by: Nápi | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 9:16 PM
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Chumpux?

"Champix," actually. I was just getting into the house style, yo. But "Chumpux" is a good name for a drug. "Champix" sounds more like a breakfast cereal.


Posted by: Populuxe | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 9:21 PM
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"Chumpux" sounds like the drug for chumps. Either that or a drug for making you blow chunks.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 9:22 PM
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No, that's Upchunx.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 9:23 PM
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101: I was thinking little individual pucks of chum.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 9:24 PM
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Either that or a drug for making you blow chunks.

Ah.

"Nausea occurs commonly in people taking varenicline. Other less common side effects include headache, difficulty sleeping and abnormal dreams. Rare side effects reported by people taking varenicline compared to placebo include change in taste, vomiting, abdominal pain, flatulence and constipation."


Posted by: Populuxe | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 9:29 PM
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I was thinking little individual pucks of chum.

You ever been shark fishing? Frozen blocks/chunks of chum is the norm.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 9:34 PM
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Shark-fishing? Jesus, gswift, what do you do with them when you get them on the boat?


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 9:36 PM
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(Is that what all the guns are for?)


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105: have I ever been shark fishing? Pff. Duh! Might as well ask if I've ever boxed a wolverine.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 9:41 PM
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Chumpux is for the wives of chumps. Don't ask me what it does (or if it's in my medicine cabinet).


Posted by: Nápi | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 9:42 PM
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Jesus, gswift, what do you do with them when you get them on the boat?

I went in high school. Older guy in our church had a son with a boat and all the gear. He did the actual reeling in of the sharks, the rest of us were just fishing with regular rigs and he'd bust out the shark rig when one showed up. We were hauling in a lot of mackerel and such. When a shark would come, he'd use one of those live mackerel as bait. First shark (mako) we tied to the little platform on the back of the boat. Second one (blue), he shot in the head before we hauled it on board.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 9:46 PM
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On an unrelated note, now that posts are sparse around here, maybe someone could finally carry out Emerson's suggestion.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 9:50 PM
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111: The video seems to have been taken down.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 9:54 PM
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de gevraagde pagina kan niet gevonden worden


Posted by: Nápi | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 9:57 PM
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Curses!

Here's another one.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 9:57 PM
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Well, now I'm embarrassed to have been all WHERE IS WALRUS JERKOFF? WANT!


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 9:59 PM
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110: The lesson here seems to be don't fuck with old dudes at your church.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 10:00 PM
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Second one (blue), he shot in the head before we hauled it on board.

Por encourager les autres?


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 10:03 PM
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The lesson here seems to be don't fuck with old dudes at your church.

Word. Our bishop was an ex police chief. Went shooting with him a time or two. He carried a .38 snubbie in an ankle holster, and he knew how to use it.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 10:08 PM
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An old dude at my church had loaded handguns velcroed to the insides of all his closets. "When they come for me, I'll be ready," he'd say. Shooting gallery in the basement.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 10:10 PM
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119: BTK?


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 10:22 PM
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Very similar sort of dude, actually.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 10:28 PM
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Yikes.


Posted by: TJ | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 10:45 PM
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Nothing about the debate? Hilary and Obama were so charming! I liked them both and they liked each other!

Here is a song about Paris:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R2y_2zQ4_w&feature=related


Posted by: PerfectlyGoddamnDelightful | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 11:10 PM
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@23: I'll take long division for $200.


Posted by: Econolicious | Link to this comment | 01-31-08 11:35 PM
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My sister moved to Wichita shortly after the last BTK killing in 1991.

Wichita is an example of a semi-urban demographic that trends Republican. There are a lot of fair-sized cities like that (Wichita: pop. 357,000), that don't make it onto your map of cities you'd like to visit but still have a lot of people. (St. Cloud, Fargo, Spokane, and Colorado Springs are a few others I can think of). Besides the BTK killer, the aircraft industry and the evil Koch billionaires are very influential in Wichita. I think that a lot of these towns have some kind of military or weapons-industry connection.

I'm sure that there's something out there, but someone has to correct the stereotype of the Religious Right as poor, uneducated, and rural. The ones I'm thinking of have a tech education, live in a medium-sized city, are doing very well financially, and hate both liberals and the liberal arts part of their education.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 02- 1-08 5:04 AM
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95: Don't bother sharing thermometers and having to worry about disinfecting them. Get the temp-measuring version of this one (NotSafeForWork):

http://www.juliansnelling.fr/images/catatimebud.jpg


Posted by: Biohazard | Link to this comment | 02- 1-08 6:51 AM
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It's very unpleasant to feel hated by the Wichita lineman.


Posted by: Populuxe | Link to this comment | 02- 1-08 6:53 AM
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Oddly enough, CNBC just had a bit that says the FDA released a warning on this drug today. Who knew it stood for "Fontana Drugs Administration"?


Posted by: mike d | Link to this comment | 02- 1-08 12:53 PM
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Here it is. And they didn't even resort to googleproofing the name.


Posted by: mike d | Link to this comment | 02- 1-08 1:33 PM
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