you know whats dumb. a gazillion dollars for sending roboipod to mars, and http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/ is all the better you can post them? thank god for google.
The 27 Club was exactly the kind of indie I needed in my dark night of the soul last night, the kind where nothing much happens except quirkiness, and then you cry.
It fits in a music thread because the movie is about a rock band, and the actors provided the sound track, and then continued to make music as the band described in the movie.
Wikipedia entry on the 27 Club which is not a spoiler.
Actually, of course, a lot does happen in that movie, but it happens inside the lead character, and is shown rather than spoken or discussed.
Third lead is Bono's daughter.
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So I'm thinking the failed bomb in Times Square is the work of domestic terrorists, because foreign groups actually know how to make bombs.
I suppose it could be the work of isolated crazies, and will probably be portrayed as such in the media. Really there is a lot of gray area between "isolated crazies" and "domestic terrorists."
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I swear I went to high school with the guy on the cover of Unfunked 11. But those are all of Apo right?
5:First WTC in early 90s failed. I could go on, al Qaeda has had more failures than successes. Times Square is a more typical AQ target than the kind right wingers go for.
"Bomb" isn't quite right, even. The car would have burned, not exploded. So I think it is the work of choads.
I am a little more interested, or interested by way of cultural comparisons, in the Chinese recently going into kindergartens with long knives.
I guess America has had a couple of those cases.
7: I think he just googles "jewfro", so it's very possible.
Also thank you for keeping the thread plausibly mix related. I was hoping it wouldn't veer too far off topic before mine uploaded.
10: The school attacks in China are very weird.
I swear I went to high school with the guy on the cover of Unfunked 11.
The original file name indicates that his name is Pete, if that helps.
Okay! Yo Versus The Volcano to you lovely people. This parable about the danger of massive forces erupting starts with some down-home American funkiness, soars coolly to Berlin on the great circle route with some neue deutsche Welle, is launched deep into electronic space on in the grip of the ash plume, then raps its way back to the comforts of home and puts on some soothing yacht glitch.
Track listing:
1. Elder Beck --Rock 'n Roll Sermon
2. East of Underground --(Don't Worry) If There's A Hell Below, We're All Going To Go
3. Little Ax & The Golden Echoes -- So Soon
4. Quincy Jones -- Ai No Corrida
5. Blo -- Loving Caring
6. Konk -- Konk Party
7. Freshro -- I Turn My Camera On
8. Grauzone -- Eisbaer
9. Leben Und Arbeiten -- Amanita
10. Kelly Polar -- Sea of Sine Waves
11. Flying Lotus -- Do The Astral Plane
12. Hudson Mohawke -- Fuse
13. Siouxsie & The Banshees -- Kiss Them For Me (7" Mix)
14. Air -- Alpha Beta Gaga (Mark Ronson Remix feat. Rhymefest)
15. Mochipet -- Ride On (feat. Mike Boo & Rashan of Crown City Rockers)
16. Warrior Queen and Heatwave -- Things Change
17. Savath + Savalis -- Journey's Homes
17. Grovesnor -- Dragon Tree
I don't do mixes, but Music. Is. My. Life.
Last night I listened to some Virginia Astley, who channels St Francis and plays piano to comp the chirping birds and bleating sheep.
Also Laura Veirs from Seattle, all experimental, intensely personal, and cool collegiate, as AMG says.
Watched a doc on Baroness Kathleen Annie Pannonica Rothschild de Koenigswarter, who had Parker and Monk die in her NYC apartment, and had 306 cats.
The school attacks in China are very weird
I assume they are the equivalent of school shootings in a society where guns aren't widely available.
Except the school shootings here have largely been carried out by students. From my very cursory scan of the reports of the Chinese incidents, these are mostly adults that don't really have much of a connection to the schools, right?
Yes, but we've had school shootings committed by people who weren't connected with the school.
This thread derailment into terrorism and berzerkers is horrifying and depressing. Can we please get back on the topic of human caterpillars?
I was considering making a mix using only tracks, especially embarrassing tracks, I listened to in my last year of high school (this would have included, e.g., Black Tape for a Blue Girl's "Across a Thousand Blades", Oingo Boingo's "Can't See", NIN's "We're in This Together", along with some The Smashing Pumpkins and PopCanon) but then I realized no one would have any reason to listen to it.
Crap, I just realized that I typed Human Caterpillar instead of Human Centipede. Now fixed.
Human caterpillar is also pretty weird to google.
I included one track I listened to in high school, but that seemed like plenty.
Random musical note: I saw Aloud play in Portland last night. They're a Boston band, so I guess that's why they were stuck opening for a local band that didn't do it for me. But Aloud were amazing. Lead singer Jennifer de la Osa has an awesome set of lungs.
I just heard a ridiculous white kid with a sideways baseball cap bust out the "Black, like my women" line on the (black) woman pouring his coffee. Sheesh.
You Maniacs! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!
People, apo told you not to google. (Er, did I foolishly read the Village Voice review last week? I did. Yes, it's gross. Mostly it's just zeitgeisty in a really depressing way.)
So anyway, I have a mix, but because I was all at the 4 mile immigrants' rights march yesterday I was too busy to upload it, and this morning is May Day brunch. (I got up at 7am and made little potato crisps, mini empanadas, cake, roast asparagus, artichoke dip and some other stuff. Now I await guests.)
Anyway, mix later. But it's completely awesome!
And happy May Day weekend to all!
My mistake, I don't know why I wrote caterpillar.
human Centipede, with millipede and velocipede to come in the sequels.
You wrote caterpillar because that's what I'd written in the post originally. I only just changed it in the past hour or so.
Wow, I'm really unsettled just reading about that. I'm having trouble shaking the image. The LA times says the director treats the characters as real people, which just makes it worse.
Flowers. Butterflies. Little hoppy bunnies. Squirrels laughing in the trees. Puffy white clouds.
27: Maybe he's just a big fan of Airplane!
Blo -- Loving Caring
I had a BLO track (Gotta Get Me a Better Head) on my mix, but ended up thinking it didn't quite fit with the rest and replaced it.
I only have one album by them but every single track on it is utterly phenomenal.
I've got Chapter One, Step Three, and Phase IV, but haven't been able to track down Phase II.
I have Phases: 1972-1982, which I assume is a greatest hits from the Phases records?
39: No. That's the album with the shitty songs. The greatest hits are much better.
It's a compilation from across all of their LPs.
29 was what I assumed apo had in mind.
I assume they are the equivalent of school shootings in a society where guns aren't widely available.
Fuck yeah! UK! UK! UK!
Sweet! A new Unfunkked!
I'm at work, I'll have to put something up later today.
27: I had a relative who used the reverse ("white and sweet, like our women" while pouring himself a double-double) at my (not white) sister's wedding. Classy.
We could just go back to the game we were playing on this thread.
I continue to like my women the way I like my talc: soft, with pearly luster and perfect cleavage.
Purely hypothetically, if one were to want to make a mix that contained songs that one did not personally own, how would one go about procuring such songs freely?
Shocked that our first President would ask such a question? You should see my library fines.
49: Who here would know such a thing? For shame!
Use a search engine for mp3 blogs to try to find what you're looking for (e.g., http://chewbone.blogspot.com/ ). Or do a Google search for what you're looking for + "Rapidshare" or "Megaupload" or some other upload/archiving site.
or just go to the Pirate Bay directly...
Incidently, George Washington didn't need to worry themselves about being dobbed in for downloading in nl, making home copies no matter the source is perfectly legal, but would be in trouble for offering mixtapes.
Don't the kids today have those tape decks that can record from the radio?
downloading in nl
Newfoundland? Nepal?
"dobbed?"
Don't these people speak English?
"Dobbed in" is excellent midlands English. It means "betrayed to the authorities"...
is excellent midlands English
NO SUCH THING
Dude in surveillance footage seen walking away from "car bomb" was white and 40ish. Can we round the middleaged white dudes up and put them in camps, yet?
Can we round the middleaged white dudes up and put them in camps, yet?
NO!
Don't the kids today have youtube?
5: So I'm thinking the failed bomb in Times Square is the work of domestic terrorists, because foreign groups actually know how to make bombs.
How long has it been since al-Queda set off a successful detonation in the West? 2005, I think? They don't have to set off successful bombs, and they've got that figured out by now. Cf. the guy who set his nuts on fire.
OTOH, there was a post on this blog a long time ago about the guy who set off some black powder in a steel army ammo box in front of the recruiter's office in NYC. (I think that was in Times Square too, but don't hold me to it.)
I could see it being either al.queda, or this other anti-recruiter type, but it's not a tea bagger - they would use guns and go all kamikaze or some such shit.
Anyways: Something from high school: Iron Maiden - Gangland (3:48)
Something from after high school: Husker Du - Books About UFOs (2:49)
Somewhat later that that: Skinny Puppy - VX Gas Attack (5:37)
m, it's hot today... i kinda like it
Investigators were reviewing similarities between the incident in Times Square and coordinated attacks in the summer of 2007 that targeted a Glasgow airport and a neighborhood in London of nightclubs and theaters. Both incidents involved cars containing propane and gasoline that did not explode. Those attacks, the authorities believed, had their roots in Iraq.
Yes! Clearly it is the same people, who have spent the last 3 years carefully refining their technique for making cars that do not explode.
You have to admit, they've really got it down.
Can we round the middleaged white dudes up and put them in camps, yet?
This would be a godsend for the academic job market.
The place I went for pizza just now had the local news on and they were discussing the story. According to them, the police are now thinking it was just this one guy, acting alone. He may have made his getaway on the subway.
Whoever did it, it put the police on edge in Pittsburgh. The linked article has one of the best first clauses ever used in the history of journalism. "A microwave oven containing a possible explosive device and pasta..."
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I just saw a commercial for this cremation place. "Won't it feel good to have that settled?"
WTF?
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I don't have enough new stuff around to make a mix, but have you guys seen the best music video of right now? (AWB showed this to me and I'm obsessed.)
66: I'd image that the "Immediate Services Needed" involves Harvey Keitel and a trip to the junkyard.
I watched the Sunday talking head shows this morning -- something I rarely do -- and was ... interested? ... to note how many of the commercials were about home improvement, lawn care (chemicals chemicals!), and so on. I hadn't quite thought that was the demographic for those shows.
It would somehow be amusing to see the cremation place's commercial in that time slot as well.
69.1: People up early on Sundays and politically engaged enough to watch talk shows? I'd guess they're an overwhelmingly home-owning demographic.
69.2: It was during 60 Minutes.
70.1: I'd guess that, yes. What I didn't guess was that they would be the Scott's lawn seed, chemicals to help you avoid having to weed those pesky flower beds ... types of home owners. Home owning is apparently much more complicated than I imagined!
It is, but renting means you have to worry about a pipe breaking and the landlord seeing the grow lights when he comes in without notice.
Clearly, the lawn commercials are aimed at the vast right wing conspiracy. The first step toward fascism is concern with a perfect lawn.
The first step toward fascism is concern with a perfect lawn.
By that criterion, I'm Trotsky.
And I'm whichever commie it was who unintentionally grew a field of wild onions in lieu of a lawn.
It would actually be pretty funny to have a poll on the importance of a kempt lawn broken down by political affiliation. Someone around here must have a pile of research funds just sitting idle, right?
whichever commie it was who unintentionally grew a field of wild onions in lieu of a lawn
Khrushchev, foreshadowing the corn campaigns.
Of fertilizer and pre-emergent herbicide?
And … I have now uploaded an admittedly rather lazy mix. Title: My Iron Lung. Featuring: mostly Peter Brötzmann. Track list:
1. Rempis Percussion Quartet - Black Book
2. Peter Brötzmann - Baritone Sax (Lonely Woman)
3. Sonore - Death Can Only Kill Me Once
4. Peter Brötzmann, Fred van Hove, Han Bennink - Paukenhändschen im Blaubeerenwald
5. Peter Brötzmann Chicago Octet/Tentet - Azis
6. Last Exit - No One Knows Anything
7. Zu & Mats Gustafsson - The King Devours His Sons
8. DKV Trio - Double Holiday
Zip file: Here.
DS's file failed for me earlier. Let's try nosflow's...
DS's? What am I talking about? Sifu's. But I like DS's mixes, so he should make one.
As long as I'm serial commenting, I should thread-merge and say that apo's mix was a happy end to today's lawn mowing. Well done again, sir.
Thanks, Stanley! I've downloaded neb's and tweety's, but won't really get a chance to listen to them until tomorrow.
Also, I love this.
Okay, uploaded here and here (I only realized after I uploaded them that my file size limit has increased, but screw it). This is an adjusted version of a mostly-metal mix I recently made for a friend who's creating some mostly-metal wall art for me.
RAWK OF AGES.
1. Call It (Dialogue) - No Country for Old Men
2. Rock of Ages - Gillian Welch
3. This Tornado Loves You - Neko Case
4. Way Down in the Hole - Blind Boys of Alabama
5. Sugar Man - Rodriguez
6. Magic Man - Heart
7. Ballroom Blitz - The Sweet
8. Infancy of a Disaster - Donita Sparks & The Stellar Moments
9. Shove - L7
10. Dirty Slut - (Artist Unknown)
11. Is Your Metal Heavy? - The Muscle Bitches
12. Princes of the Universe - Queen
13. Renegade - Styx
14. Nightrider - Queensryche
15. Symphony of Destruction - Megadeth
16. Quest for Fire - Iron Maiden
17. Snap Your Fingers, Snap Your Neck - Prong
18. Science - System of a Down
19. Starborn, Part III: On a Forever Road - The Chronicles of Israfel
20. War Pigs - Faith No More
Thanks for all the great-looking mixes, everyone. I'll have the opportunity to listen to them tomorrow.
67: That Janelle Monae track is freaking amazing.
Here is a significantly more varied as to musicians and probably even a little easier to listen to being much poppier mix that I happen to have lying around, but which reuses some stuff from previous mixes made available to the unfogged-going public:
1. Good Good - Clouds
2. Brian Eno - Golden Hours
3. Josh Millard - O Superman
4. Ra Ra Riot - Dying is Fine
5. Bonnie "Prince" Billie & Tortoise - Thunder Road
6. Frog Eyes - Sound Travels from the Snow to the Dark
7. Sun City Girls - Apna Desh
8. Marika Papagika - Dervish
9. Janet Bean & the Concertina Wire - One Shot
10. Eric Dolphy - Feathers
11. Arto Lindsay - 4 Skies [apparently a mainstay for me]
12. Jose Gonzalez - Teardrop
13. TV on the Radio - I Was a Lover
14. Akron/Family - Part of Corey
15. Oso - Wade the Tide
16. Devotchka - Last Beat of My Heart
17. Mi and L'au - Philosopher
18. Scott Walker - Sleepwalkers Woman
19. Final Fantasy - The CN Tower Belongs to the Dead (Many Ives version)
That Janelle Monae trackhairstyle is freaking amazing.
FTFY.
(give it about 10 min before you download)
The Ballad Of Billy The Kid - Billy Joel
Heidegger in Harlem - The Negro Problem
Rosa Parks - Outkast
Bonnie And Clyde - Serge Gainsbourg
Patsy Cline - Jenny Toomey
Bella Abzug - Sarah Dougher
Jacques Derrida - Scritti Politti
Ponce De Leon - Splitsville
Rene and Georgette Magritte With Their Dog After the War - Paul Simon
John Wayne Gacy Jr - Sufjan Stevens
Ken - The Negro Problem
Sigmund Freud's Impersonation of Albert Einstein in America - Randy Newman
Richard Pryor Addresses A Tearful Nation - Joe Henry
Frank And Jesse James - Warren Zevon
Among the famous people not included in this mix are Joseph, Joshua, Jesus, Pretty Boy Floyd, Stalin, Castro, Grace Kelly, Janet Shaw and Alex Chilton.
96: We should probably just be happy that he didn't include Mika's "Grace Kelly." (Then again, I like that song. But my bad taste has already been recorded in the archives.)
I like that song too. It's in the longer version of the mix.
OK, why not? Here's One Bland Mix.
Modern Painters - Destroyer
Here Comes My Hand - Bodies of Water
Railroad - Piero Umiliani
Naked, If I Want To - Cat Power
Ageless Beauty (Most Serene Republic Remix) - Stars
Better Days (Featuring Micachu) - Speech Debelle
The Snowball Effect - Barry Adamson
I Need Meat - The Jazz Butcher
Slug Song - The Clean
Roboxulla - The Jealous Girlfriends
Beautiful - Clem Snide
Hung Out - Red Pens
Run to Your Grave - The Mae Shi
Bearbones - Total Babe
Kissed You Twice - Jacobites
Kites - Lucinda Black Bear
It's Not Alright - Lambchop
Mouths To Feed - The Epochs
Non, Non Rien N'a Change - Les Poppys
There is a fundamental, unbridgeable divide between people who list tracks "title - artist" and those who list tracks "artist - title".
The narcissism of unbridgeable differences.
Now repeat after me: is it for this I've hunted?
(In other words, I <3 Destroyer and I hope this means Mr. Blanding's mix will introduce me to other things I will less than 3.)
Oh dear, I just misused an apostrophe.
Holy shit, Styx.
I feel obliged to share the tale that Styx supposedly attended my mom's high school, a tale that I think is at the very least generously misrembered. For starters, Chuck and John Panozzo were fully ten years her senior, so I kind of doubt they were "playing all the parties" when she was in high school. Moreover, in keeping with family tradition that I continued, mom was a real dork in high school; I doubt she was attending "all the parties".
My own (and Will's!) high school has Gwar as alleged legendary alums, a story I've never bothered to actually verify. Maybe every high school has their supposed rocker alums?
This dude went to my high school, three years before me. He played dances as "DJ Marvin" before settling on his mature rap name.
misrembered
Man. I totally cannot spell lately.
And I suppose this guy isn't actually famous, but he did go to my high school, and they did play CBGBs, where I saw them once or twice.
Huh. Apparently, Will and I can also claim Aimee Mann as a sorta-famous-rocker fellow HS alum.
Real Famous People!
That is a great theme, and I have a song to contribute. This is one that I've been meaning to blog, but I'll post here first. The song is "Tell Me Why You Like Roosevelt" and I have two versions worth hearing.
First a relatively contemporary (1993) recording from Sid Selvidge, and is a good place to start because both the words and tune are relatively easy to follow.
Second an awesome blues version from a 1964 Friends of Old Time Music concert, performed by McKinley Peebles, a NYC street musician and friend of the Reverend Gary Davis.
Um, Zac Efron went to my high school. Post my time there, but my sister was a classmate. Pretty sure that's as close as we get to a famous "musician."
110: Very nice.
I too love the famous people theme, k-sky, and am curious to see the track list for the long version. I'm also now distracting myself from the work on my desk by thinking about what might go on a version from my collection.
106! Young MC was very beloved by me when I was a child.
"Young" is really his surname!? I haven't been this surprised by an absence of pseudonymity since I found out Chevy Chase's real name was "Cornelius Chase".
113: Me, too! I still have the cassette single of "Bust A Move", and it tends to find its way into our house's one functional cassette player whenever we have friends over.
115: Remember this track? I used to do the whole thing from memory when I was 10. (I am not watching the video, so no guarantees as to what that is.)
116: Can't watch from work, lamentably.
New New Pornographers streaming at KCRW.com. Essear. And the rest a' yer.
Long list of Real Famous People. Most of the ones I took out were songs named after musicians.
That is a great mix, k-sky.
Same goes for Mr. Blandings'.
Long list of Real Famous People.
I notice that the song I linked is not on that list!
When I saw your mix I was thinking about tracks that I have in my collection that would meet that standard. Several of them are on that list (including two of the three songs in the "triptych of ... artists as heroes" from here ) but not all of them (e.g., the "ballad of Sacco and Vanzetti", though I'm not sure I have a copy of that).
Not high school, but someone I knew in college is in k-sky's mix.
123: Damn, dude. I knew you were kinda old, but you went to high school with Ponce de León? Wow.
124: Don't be silly. He went to school with the Magritte's dog.
K-sky, I love that you have "Hey! Bo Diddley" on there. I had reserved a spot for that on my list. I was kind of expecting to see "Pablo Picasso", though.
121: I haven't downloaded yours yet, Sifu! I am sure it will be awesome. I was working my way up from the bottom.
I notice that the song I linked is not on that list!
And Stalin is. What does that tell you?
(It's whatever I had lying about in my iTunes some months ago. Which did not include that gem.)
129: neb, your mix solicited from my roommate the following question: "Dude, what the fuck are you listening to?" But I've been enjoying it, so thanks.
Actually, he said, "i was waiting forever when the music will begin and there are noises
but, really, my cows".
The Famous People idea is sort of irresistible. The mix itself is pretty good, too. (Well, TBH I find duets by Serge & Charlotte Gainsburg to be super-creepy and skin-crawly, but all the other stuff really has It. Especially that "Richard Pryor Address a Tearful Nation" track.)
It would make a good supplementary mix idea -- call it the K-Sky Famous People Challenge. I had a quick look through my library earlier today and doing a mix along those lines would dredge up some really good tunes I hardly listen to otherwsie, which is always a positive thing.
Things are super-hectic with work right now and I haven't yet had a chance to listen to any of the other mixes, even the Unfunkked and Sifu's. I'll rectify that tonight.
Ignoring the songs already mentioned, there's "I Wanna Be Your Joey Ramone", "Julie Christie", "Dear Justice Letter", Mastodon's "The Czar" songs, "The Death of Ferdinand de Saussure", "Sylvia Plath", "Lloyd, I'm Ready to Be Heartbroken". Brilliant mix idea.
"I Wanna Be Your Joey Ramone"
Followed by Joey Ramone's "Maria Bartiromo".
Just glancing through my CDs at work I see a couple more "Michael Caine" (could be a good opening track) and "Piazza, New York Catcher"
By "Julie Christie", I actually meant Yo La Tengo's "Tom Courtenay", although there is a Julie Christie song out there.
There's some kind of a six degrees game in this (with Bo Diddley as a minimal isolated loop).
"Sweet Caroline" for the Neil Diamond contingent.
Someday I will really have to figure out all of this mix uploading stuff.
Famous people songs:
"Free Nelson Mandela" The Specials
"Free Satpal Ram" Asian Dub Foundation
"[a whole bunch of songs about Haile Selassie]" [a whole bunch of reggae artists]
"Who Killed Davey Moore?" Bob Dylan
"The Ballad of William Worthy"; "Joe Hill"; "Jim Dean of Indiana" Phil Ochs
Oh, The Special A.K.A. to be more precise.
I been meaning to say that I've been listing to the mix C'mon Stink, which K-sky posted to his blog some months ago. I listened every day in the car for several weeks now. I was going to link to it, but I think it has gone away.
"[a whole bunch of songs about Haile Selassie]"
Don't forget "Marcus Garvey" by Burning Spear.
I appear to have a song called "Why Did You Reject My Steve Perry Fan Fiction?" that seems appropriate.
Oh, good point. I actually do find Burning Spear kinda forgettable though, which is too bad really, because he plays First Avenue at least once a year. Saw him once to say I had and haven't gone again. Lee Perry and Joseph Hill (of Culture) were much more memorable.
And nobody's mentioned "Bela Lugosi's Dead"! Shocking.
Or, um, "Rock Me Amadeus". Oh the celebrity mix is gonna get eighties'd up for sure.
Would everything by the band "Natalie Portman's Shaved Head" be included?
I don't think it counts if it's in the band name.
There's also Fatboy Slim's "Michael Jackson".
151: and Negativland's "Michael Jackson".
re: Young MC.
I always liked 'I Come Off' because of the fantastic Aaron Neville sample.
Oh, and "(I Feel Like) (Gerry) Cheevers (Stitch Marks On My Heart)".
What about something like "The Ballad of Dorothy Parker" (Prince) which has no actual connection to Dorothy Parker beyond the title?
Wesley Willis has quite a few such songs. My favorites are "Alanis Morissette" and "Richard Speck".
Ted Knight of course recorded "I'm In Love With Barbara Walters", available here.
Decemberists, "Valerie Plame"
Unrest, "Cath Carroll"
Bauhaus, "Bela Lugosi's Dead"
Dogs Die in Hot Cars, "Paul Newman's Eyes"
The World/Inferno Friendship Society, "Peter Lorre"
Rancid, "Harry Bridges"
Squirrel Nut Zippers, "The Ghost of Stephen Foster"
10,000 Maniacs, "Hey Jack Kerouac"
New Pornographers, "The Mary Martin Show"
Bree Sharp, "David Duchovny"
Bananarama, "Robert DeNiro's Waiting"
!!!, "Me and Giuliani Down By The Schoolyard"
The Kinks, "Mr. Churchill Says"
Bo Diddley, "Mr. Khrushchev"
Mark Knopfler, "Song For Sonny Liston"
Crackerbash, "Song For Lon Mabon"
Atom and His Package, "Pumping Iron For Enya"
Spoonie Gee, "Mighty Mike Tyson"
DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince, "I Think I Can Beat Mike Tyson"
Aaron Carter, "That's How I Beat Shaq"
I could do a reasonably bumpin' dancey mix along these lines. Good idea, k-sky!
Who are Lloyd and Caroline in real life?
Thanks for the good words about C'mon Stink. rob. Maybe I'll put it back up -- using dropbox for mixes means they don't come down automatically (free 2GB limit).
Let's have some Real Famous People mini-mixes!
Guildo Horn, "Ich mag Steffi Graf"
Die angefahrenen Schulkinder, "I want to make love to Steffi Graf"
105: Maybe every high school has their supposed rocker alums?
No, by the way. My high school didn't. However, I have a friend who came from the same tiny Alberta town as Nickelback.
Maybe every high school has their supposed rocker alums?
Oo I know the actual Cath Carroll that Unrest were singing about. Wasn't at school with her though.
As long as your mix has "That's How I Beat Shaq" and "Mr. Khrushchev" on it, I'll download it.
Could someone with front page posting rights please put up an announcement to the effect that a London meet-up will take place on Wednesday the 5th, at the Pakenham Arms, from about 7ish, with some people trickling in a bit later?
I can be emailed if anyone wants contact details, or a mobile phone number or something. I have no idea how we'll recognize each other, but nworb werdnA says he'll have a brightly coloured laptop bag, and I'll probably be carrying [or have sitting on the table] some sort of ancient looking camera.
My high school has had no famous ex pupils, as far as I know. The village has a couple of explorers and killers of the foreign-man, and some engineers and the like.
And this bloke:
http://www.patfullerton.com/lh/costars/fin.html
Donovan's "Bert's Blues" (Bert Jansch), (((Powerhouse Sound)))'s "Shocklee", 90 Day Men's "Even Time Ghost Can't Stop Wagner", A Hawk and a Hacksaw's "For Slavoj", Haden's "Song for Ché", Aaron Bennett's "So What Do You Think about John Stevens?", Eels' "Grace Kelly Blues", Andrew Bishop's "Hymn for Hank Williams" (though perhaps I should start excluding musicians—indeed, I shall, though it means omitting "Like Dylan in the Movies"), Guy/Gustafsson/Strid's "Schrödinger's Cat" (and the similarly-named Science Group song), Belle & Sebastian's "Marx and Engels", PopCanon's "Robert Coover", Bill Frisell's "Hymn for Ginsberg", Palace Brothers' "Pushkin", Brainville's "The Revenge of Spartacus" and Hanns Eisler's "Spartacus 1919", Comets on Fire's "Rimbaud Blues", Glenn Jones' "One Jack Rose (That I Mean)" (couldn't resist), David Sylvian's "Emily Dickinson", Robert Wyatt's cover of some other group's "Stalin Wasn't Stallin'" and Scott Walker's "The Old Man's Back Again (Dedicated to the Neo-Stalinist Regime)" (though if we allow dedications the list gets really long), Decemberists' "Song for Myla Goldberg", Del Ray and the Sun Kings' "One Small Step (Neil Armstrong Version)", Dälek's "Who Medgar Evers Was", El Guapo's "John Hinckley Knew This One", Glenn Jones' "Richard Nixon Orchid", Guided by Voices' "Tour Guide at the Winston Churchill Memorial", Gutbucket's "OJ Bin Laden", Hatfield & the North's "(Big) John Wayne Socks Psychology on the Jaw", John Zorn's "Spillane" and "Godard", and a whole lot more but you know what? this is really boring.
Maybe every high school has their supposed rocker alums?
Every huge wealthy suburban high school, probably.
re: explorers:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bruce
this is really boring.
I have reached this point.
You know when opera singers were way better? Before sound recording.
Lloyd is Lloyd Cole of "Are You Ready To Be Heartbroken". Longest wait for an answer song ever. I will take a shot at a minimix when I get home.
No famous rockers from my school, just Ric Flair, the Nature Boy.
169: It will be sort of more interesting when we can post some actual mixes in response and not just lists of songs.
Julius Eastman, "The Holy Presence of Joan of Arc"; King Crimson, "Neal and Jack and Me"; L'Ensemble Rayé's "Genghis K."; Lambchop's "Sharing a Gibson with Martin Luther King Jr."; Lozenge's "Just Like Emily Dickinson"; People, "The Story of Subjective Experience (Ethan Hawke, the Man of Men's Men)"; Leo Smith's "Betty Shabazz: A Consistent Voice of Love, an Inspiration for Life"; Miriodor's "Mata Hari" (must be plenty of other bands with songs named for her) and "Le fantôme de M. C. Escher"; Mission of Burma's "Max Ernst"; Moving Gelatine Plates, "World of Genius Hans" (ok, Hans was a horse); Muffins, "Under Dalí's Wing" and "Amelia Earhart"; Nico, "Julius Caesar"
It will be sort of more interesting when we can post some actual mixes in response and not just lists of songs.
Is something stopping you?
You need to have the list of candidates before you can make the mix, anyway.
I got the request in 167, so no other main pagers need to come along and put up a more clever post than mine, you got that?
As for the celeb song thing, How about LL Cool J's "Mama Said Knock You Out," since his mother's quite famous at this point. I mean, she's LL Cool J's mother, ya know?
Anal Cunt, "Harvey Korman is Gay"
Anal Cunt, "Your Cousin is George Lynch"
Anal Cunt, "Hitler Was a Sensitive Man"
Anal Cunt, "Hey, Aren't You Gary Spivey?"
Anal Cunt, "Morrissey"
Anal Cunt, "Eddy Grant"
Anal Cunt, "Guy Lombardo"
Anal Cunt, "Otis Sistrunk"
I am a great fan of The Weakerthans' Our Retired Explorer (Dines With Michel Foucault in Paris, 1961) but I keep forgetting to rip it from CD.
However, I have a friend who came from the same tiny Alberta town as Nickelback.
When I found out they were from Canada, I was shocked. We can deport them, and someone from ICE isn't on this case like five minutes ago? WTF, ICE?
What I'm saying is, you should buy your friend this shirt.
Peter Kowald did a duet with Barry Guy called '"Das Schweigen von Marcel Duchamp wird überbewertet"'.
181: We tried to cover that song; harder than it seemed.
177.2: Sure, being at work. I don't post mixes from work, my library is on my home system.
Phillip Greenlief's "Portrait of Anna Akhmatova" is nice.
Wikipedia claims (with a caveat) that there >30,000 high schools in the US alone (seems a bit high to me), so maybe you do run out of schools before you run out of "famous" musicians. Another way to look at it is for a high school with a grade size of 500, there will be 25,000 or so students in attendance over a fifty-year period (adjustment for your desired grade size left as an exercise for the reader)--what is the average music fame rate?
We have no rock stars of note among the alumni of my high school, although we can claim one member of an embarrassing nostalgia act.
188: If you're looking specifically at rock stars, though, demographic characteristics come into play, and as Ned noted in 170 wealthy suburban schools are likely to be hugely overrepresented.
My wife went to her high school reunion a couple of years ago. She was looking forward to meeting up with her best friend from high school, who she had lost touch with. This friend was mistreated by the other kids at her school, so my wife wasn't sure if she would show up. Not only did my wife's friend show up, she showed up with her rock-star husband. All of the people who were mean to her then suddenly found reasons to fawn over her now. It was like watching everyone's high school reunion "look at me now!" fantasy come true.
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176 is cock-slapping.
I went to two high schools; both have amusing rock-n-roll star alumni who I won't name to protect the pseud.
176 is cock-slapping.
Is that like "176 is tits"?
I won't name to protect the pseud.
So, for what reason(s) will you name them?
192 -- There was a guy at my HS reunion who married a Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue supermodel and brought her to the reunion. It was nice to see that someone had acheived a goal that they'd set for themselves at age 15.
No rock stars or anyone else famous outside of the state went to my high school, but many prominent local figures such as Al Hurricane did.
198 is funny.
I don't think anyone from my high school class has achieved any kind of success that anyone not their friend would brag about. However, my high school occasionally attracts a degree of attention for its prom, and whether or not John Mayer shows up at it.
Despite being over 100 years old, my high school has no famous alumni. A few minor pro athletes, a few local TV people, and that's it.
A few minor pro athletes here as well. Mostly hockey players who were there on scholarship. And one of history's greatest field hockey players. Wow, she was a ditz. Not your typical focused and driven athlete.
200: Is the school's motto "Our student body is a Wonderland"? Because if it is, at least one person needs to get punched.
188: Yes, yes. I forgot to add "demographic adjustments left as an exercise for the reader".
204: clearly Ben's high school has that covered.
I'm going to have to wait until tomorrow to do a "famous people" mix, but I'm still planning on making one.
Pierre Vervloesem, "Emile Zola's Jacuzzi"; Plastic People of the Universe, "Metro Goldwyn Mayer"; PopCanon, "Rene Rene" and "Mina Loy"; Praxis, "Warcraft (Bruce Lee's Black Hour of Chaos)"; Present (and Univers Zero), "Jack the Ripper"; Red Television, "Ghost of Emile Zola"; Residents, "Hitler was a Vegetarian"; Richard Thompson, "Al Bowlly's in Heaven" (and "Roll Over Vaughn Williams", and "Mingus Eyes", and "Dear Janet Jackson", and "Alexander Graham Bell", and "Don't Sit on My Jimmy Shands"); Robert Ashley, "In Sarah, Mencken, Christ and Beethoven There Were Men and Women" (and whatever the similarly named Tortoise tune is); Robert Wyatt, "Chairman Mao"; Led Zeppelin, "Hats Off to Harper"; Ry Cooder, "Jesse James"; Scott Amendola Band, "Cesar Chavez"; Slapp Happy, "Michelangelo"; Sleeping People, "Fripp for Girls"; Snakefinger, "Save Me from Dali"; Sofia Gubaidulina, "Hommage a T.S. Eliot"; Songs: Ohia, "Steve Albini's Blues"; Spaceways, Inc., "Rothko Sideways"; Big Black, "Kasimir S. Pulaski Day" (and Sufjan Stevens, "Casimir Pulaski Day"); Sun Kil Moon, "Pancho Villa"; Sunn O))), "The Gates of Ballard"; Ted Sirota's Rebel Souls, "Chairman Fred (I Wish Fred Hampton Was Here)"; Thee Silver Mt. Zion Memorial Orchestra & Tra La La Band, "Teddy Roosevelt's Guns"; Rickie Lee Jones, "Chuck E.'s In Love"; Tom Waits, "Jitterbug Boy (Sharing a Curbstone with Chuck E. Weiss, Robert Marchese, Paul Body and The Mug and Artie)"; USAISAMONSTER, "Tecumseh"; Vinny Golia, "Schwarzenegger"; Leo Smith, "Angela Davis".
I'm less happy than ever before, actually.
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Maybe you'd be happier if you listened to Blöödhag, Neb.
212: Hey. I'm right now listening to "Annihilation in Allah" which I first heard on one of your broadcasts (although does not count as being about a "real person') . It has become a favorite pick-me-up of mine, and I thank you for that (as well as Henry Kaiser in general).
Victoria - The Kinks
Gene Autry - Beulah
The Ballad Of Bjorn Borg - The Pernice Brothers
Franz Kafka At The Zoo - The Clean
Johnny Mathis' Feet - American Music Club
Levi Stubbs' Tears - Billy Bragg
Rrose Selavy's Valise - The Aluminum Group
Valerie Plame - The Decemberists
Tania - Camper Van Beethoven
Grant Hart - The Posies
Joan Of Arc - Bitch Magnet
Shatner - The Wedding Present
Whatever Happened To Corey Haim? - The Thrills
Captain Lou - NRBQ
Just Like Betty Page - The Jazz Butcher
I Know Where Syd Barrett Lives - Television Personalities
Evel Knievel - BMX Bandits
Knievel - Scud Mountain Boys
Raymond Chandler Evening - Robyn Hitchcock And The Egyptians - Robyn Hitchcock
Let's Save Tony Orlando's House - Yo La Tengo
(Sometimes I Feel Like) Fletcher Christian - Mekons
Initials B. B. - Mick Harvey
Not Even Stevie Nicks... - Calexico
The House That Jack Kerouac Built - The Go-Betweens
Max Ernst - Mission Of Burma
II Duce - Big Black
Madonna, Sean, And Me - Sonic Youth
Famous people: they liberate us from boredom, from driving around, from the hours between five and seven in the evening.
Whatever Happened To Corey Haim? - The Thrills
He's dead, you sick bastards.
Captain Lou - NRBQ
He's dead, you sick bastards.
Max Ernst - Mission Of Burma
He's dead, you sick bastards.
I might make one of these tomorrow. We'll just have to see how much I feel like actually working.
217: Sifu: I have a question for you over here.
There's also "John Wayne" by Thomas Dybdahl and Woody Guthrie's Lindbergh song.
Whatever Happened To Corey Haim? - The Thrills
"Junky Jews" by Clem Snide would be a good companion piece (it is about, though not titled after, real famous people).
And then there was that guy's song about Paul Krugman.
I am glad to have been of service, JP.
222: Well, some of us are pretty much out in the wilderness on some of this stuff, and need all the help we can get.
Here's">http://www.divshare.com/download/11263230-b17">Here's one that includes no famous people in track titles. I've actually been listening to more uptempo stuff than this lately.
1. Cucurrucucu Paloma, Lola Beltrán
2. Colour Green, Sibylle Baier
3. When The Haar Rolls In, James Yorkston
4. Deshkar, Rashid Khan
5. The Beauty Of Sorrow , Pauline Oliveros
6. Red Moon, The Walkmen
7. C'est Si Triste Sans Lui, Cleoma Breaux and Ophy Breaux w/ Joseph Falcon
8. Close My Eyes, Arthur Russell
9. Sweet Tooth, Dave Rawlings Machine
Yikes. Pre-coffee link fail. This is it.
Good stuff, Bave Dee!
219: My favorite John Wayne song is "John Wayne Was a Nazi" by MDC.
I noticed that people were listing songs about famous people -- well, in addition to "Hurricane", Bob Dylan also wrote, "Lenny Bruce", and "George Jackson".
Veering off-topic: I have a friend who teaches freshman comp at one of the local universities and occasionally sends me winning sentences from her students' papers. I wanted to share the latest batch:
An individual's identity is a huge part of their makeup.
Because of the massive increase in divorce rates, awareness needs to be presented to society; therefore people can be aware of what is going on in the world.
Not all who sleepwalk are hysterical.
But in the Christian religion some historians don't find the upcoming apocalypse to be absolute.
These theories on theological apocalypse cannot be complete proven or disproven until such an apocalypse would occur.
[If the earth is ejected from the solar system,] the oceans [would] freeze solid where only micro bacteria would be able to survive the initial freezing, but these forms are only projected to live about 30 billion years.
The study of the relationship between mother and son is very significant in that the serial killer, being male or female, needs to be cared for in the right way.
Women who are struggling financially seem to be able to support themselves and live a better lifestyle when receiving an abortion.
Unfortunately for China, [voluntary abortion of female fetuses] has led to the "missing girls" epidemic and as the males grow older, missing brides arise.
I'm surprised nobody included Ozzy Osbourne's "Mr. Crowley", Peter Gabriel's "Biko", or R.E.M.'s "Man in the Moon". Maybe those were too obvious?
230: I think "Man in the Moon" doesn't count because, while about AK, his name isn't in the title. But I dunno!
"Chatterton" -- Serge Gainsbourg
"Sacre Charlemagne" -- France Gall
"Political Song for Michael Jackson to Sing" -- Minutemen
"Andy Warhol" -- David Bowie
"Song for Robert Zimmerman"* -- David Bowie
Also, hahah, "Casey Jones" -- Greatful Dead
*Is that the name?
"Stand Down, Margaret" -- The Beat (if first name only of famous person is ok).
his name isn't in the title
Ah, okay then.
228: Also the embarrassing "Joey".
231: That is of course the only reason I omitted "Candle In The Wind".
I was sorry not to be able to include Jonathan Richman's "Vincent Van Gogh" ("the baddest painter since Jan Vermeer") and Guadalcanal Diary's "Michael Rockefeller", omitted because I only have them on vinyl.
My own (and Will's!) high school has Gwar as alleged legendary alums, a story I've never bothered to actually verify.
Stanley, this story is true. The drummer was a classmate of mine. He was a very nice guy in HS.
The drummer was a classmate of mine.
They've had five different drummers.
I did not know that Biko was the name of a person.
Everyone should have five different drummers...laydeez.
There's your Unfogged Fun Fact™ for the day, then.
I stand by my statement!
As I said, the drummer was a classmate of mine. (Brad Roberts.) 1989 to present.
Apo is correct that there have been multiple former drummers.
Josh Marshall: "That said, it is hard to say that anyone's been treated very unfairly. If a brash new political protest group had come on the scene audaciously announcing themselves as the 'd--k l--kers' -- oblivious to the slang meaning of the phrase -- it seems like it would be expecting too much of their political opponents not to have a touch of fun at their expense, even after they'd realized their error in branding and come up with another name for the club."
I say that whichever candidate wins today's Democratic primary and gets to take on Richard Burr for NC's Senate seat should absolutely start a Dick Lickers Political Action Committee.
JMM should just ask the supporters of this congressman how they dealt with the unfair barbs from opponents who disrespectfully said his name out loud.
My highschool has had a number of famous alumni, the best know probably being Gordon Parks and Charles Schulz. Noah Levi, of the Honeydogs and the first iteration of Golden Smog, was a friend of mine. These folks were a few years before my time and these guys several years after.
237 is amazing to me. I guess it just shows I'm old.
I have conceived of a mix so esoteric that no one may care to listen to it—and yet you will find it fascinating nonetheless. It's going to take a while, because I had to order several out-of-print discs to assemble it. Stay tuned!
"Bonsoir, John John" by France Gall is about JFK Jr., so if "Sweet Caroline" counts, then it does, too. Hmph.
It would really help me out if someone could come up with a recording of John Tuder's plainchant from the Pepys MS. Anybody?
228: Also the embarrassing "Joey".
Embarrassing because it's a lousy song, or embarrassing because it glorifies a gangster?
I think it was actually Jacques Levy's (Dylans' co-lyricist) idea to write a song about Joey Gallo.
250: Truly Jesus and CA should run away and get married. They could listen to "With Heart and Voice" together on the radio each week.
251: The latter.
Noah Levi, of the Honeydogs and the first second iteration of Golden Smog,
Chris Mars was the original drummer.
252: It did occur to me that if no one else wants it, you could pass it on to CA. But of course you'll want it, because it's going to be awesome.
Any gentlemen interested in attending the Dick Lickers staff development session, do let me know.
Speaking of Dick Lickers, I never, ever get tired of these stories. Apparently, no more reliable indicator of closeted homosexuality exists than being an anti-gay activist.
Apparently, no more reliable indicator of closeted homosexuality exists than being an anti-gay activist.
With the possible exception of marrying Liza Minnelli.
256: Ouch. Did you see that the dude adopted a sixteen year old boy four years ago? The kid's the same age as the rent boy his adoptive father got caught hiring. Even assuming the kid wasn't mistreated, that's got to be awfully weird.
On the subject of famous/eminent musical alumni, it's pretty hard to top the Alpha Boys School in Kingston. Its students went on to pretty much invent ska and reggae.
Back on the subject of mixes: I've uploaded my own entry to the K-Sky Famous People Challenging Invitational Open.
A couple of these tracks probably came from Unfogged mixes, which are getting to be a substantial presence in my music library -- I think the Neon Neon one is originally from one of ttaM's mixes, the Legendary K.O. track is probably a Sifu selection, and I notice that the Ted Sirota track appears in neb's endless list above, which may or may not be coincidence. I'm starting to lose track of that sort of thing to be honest, so apologies to anyone I've ripped off without acknowledging.
I was distressed to find that some of my best material is stuck in a virtually obsolete format that no sane person uses anymore, Windows Media Audio. Probably most people will be unable to open these files, but I currently have no means of converting them, so for those few who'll be able to play them I've included a couple of selections as bonus tracks.
(Oh, and if you're thinking track 19 breaks the rules, just listen to the lyrics.)
FAMOUSER.
00 Time For You To Leave, William Blake (Dialogue) - Gary Farmer & Johnny Depp
01 Chi Mai (The Life & Times of David Lloyd George) - Ennio Morricone
02 Blame It On Cain - Elvis Costello
03 Dolly Parton's Guitar - Lee Hazlewood
04 Hang On St. Christopher - Tom Waits
05 Bo Diddley 1969 - '68 Comeback
06 Jezebel - Frankie Laine
07 Chairman Fred (I Wish Fred Hampton Was Here) - Ted Sirota's Rebel Souls
08 What's Yr Take on Cassavetes - Le Tigre
09 Diana Ross - The Concretes
10 Weis & Hickman - Melt Wizard
11 Helen Keller - Lima Charlie
12 Bukowski - Modest Mouse
13 Lady Day - Richard Swift
14 William of Orange - The Caribbean
15 A Picture of Arthur Bacon - French Disco
16 Michael Douglas - Neon Neon
17 George Bush Doesn't Care About Black People - The Legendary K.O.
18 Me & Jesus the Pimp in a 79 Grenada Last Night - The Coup
19 Fame - GZA
BONUS TRACK ONE Kristara Barrington - Zoo Story
BONUS TRACK TWO On Brecht (Epilogue) - Ute Lemper
BONUS TRACK THREE Letter to Neil Armstrong - Tons of Fun University
Reached by New Times before a trip to Bermuda, Rekers said he learned Lucien was a prostitute only midway through their vacation. "I had surgery," Rekers said, "and I can't lift luggage. That's why I hired him."
I have to think this story doesn't hold much water. How much did he pay for someone ostensibly to carry his luggage?
virtually obsolete format that no sane person uses anymore
Don't lose hope, DS. Another year or two, and the wax cylinder will be back with a vengeance among the hipster crowd. Mark my words.
07 Chairman Fred (I Wish Fred Hampton Was Here) - Ted Sirota's Rebel Souls
Hooray!
255: Is attendance mandatory if I want to be a member in good standing?
258: Co-founder of the FRC!
261: He has high esthetic standards -- sleek, supple young porters command a premium in the luggage carrying marketplace. Seems perfectly plausible to me.
Of course, someone's already gotten to wikipedia.
Did you see that the dude adopted a sixteen year old boy four years ago? The kid's the same age as the rent boy his adoptive father got caught hiring. Even assuming the kid wasn't mistreated, that's got to be awfully weird.
Extremely weird not only because of the age similarity, but because Rekers is a prominent advocate against homosexual adoption rights.
Erm, 267 should be retracted, I guess, since Rekers probably doesn't consider himself gay.
Although hopefully he's given the matter at least some thought.
253:
Huh, I don't think I ever knew that. I had forgotten about the first EP, though.
I'm looking forward to downloading your mixes, Mr. Blandings. Our tastes are largely coincident.
OT: "Joe Lieberman is a coward"
http://www.theagitator.com/2010/05/04/yella-joe-lieberman/
OT: "Joe Lieberman is a coward"
http://www.theagitator.com/2010/05/04/yella-joe-lieberman/
The new Unfunkked is really excellent, BTW. Extra marks for the inclusion of the Big Pimp Jones dialogue tracks.
The first few tracks of Yo Versus the Volcano are sounding dope too, but now I have to go out.
How much did he pay for someone ostensibly to carry his luggage?
May I handle your bag, sir?
"Boy, you sure seem to have a lot of baggage, sir."
"Thank you. Perhaps you could take my steamer trunk."
"Here, I've wrapped my package for you to handle."
I know you all are joking, but am I the only one who thinks that is an implausible excuse? It's too weak to be believable--I'd think if Rekers were lying, he's have come up with something better than that. Maybe he's just a terrible liar; I don't know. (That would be hard to believe for an old man who's been closeted all his life.) But, on the other hand, it seems like it couldn't possible be true. So I wonder if something else is going on here.
"Why do these homosexuals keep carrying my luggage?"
280: This is going to be one of those conversations with you that makes my head hurt, but I'm assuming that Rekers hired the guy as a sex worker, rather than to carry his luggage, and the 'carry his luggage' thing was a desperate improvisation like 'I have a wide stance'. I'm not clear on what you're speculating about as a third alternative other than Rekers is implausibly telling the truth, and Rekers hired the guy as a sex worker and is lying incompetently.
but am I the only one who thinks that is an implausible excuse?
What? This is completely believable.
On a different note, if you're pregnant and you have sex, your baby can get pregnant and you can deliver your own grandchild. It's true.
This is going to be one of those conversations with you that makes my head hurt
I'm not exactly sure what that's supposed to mean, but I'm sure that I'm insulted.
The "wide stance" thing was much more plausible as a desperate improvisation than this, don't you think? By "third alternative", I guess I was wondering if maybe he was doing undercover research for a new book, or something. It's just hard to believe that someone who deliberately hired a sex worker wouldn't have been able to come up with anything better than "I wanted help carrying my luggage". But, as I said, maybe the guy's just a terrible liar. I'm just not sure how he'd have managed to hide things until now, if that were the case.
From the article Apo linked:
In his interview with New Times, Lucien didn't want to impugn his client, but he made it clear they met through Rentboy.com, which is the only website on which he advertises his services. Neither Google nor any other search engine picks up individual Rentboy.com profiles, any more than they pick up individual profiles on eHarmony or Match.com. You cannot just happen upon one.
To arrive at Lucien's site, Rekers must have accepted Rentboy.com's terms of use, thereby acknowledging he was not offended by graphic sexual material. He then would have been transported to a front page covered with images of naked, tumescent men busily sodomizing each other.
Then Rekers must have performed a search. Did he want a "rentboy," a "sugar daddy," or a "masseur"? In what country? And what city? If Rekers searched for a rent boy in Miami, he would have found approximately 80 likely candidates. He must have scrolled down the first page, past the shirtless bears and desperate ex-models, and on to page 2. There, at last, was Lucien.
Sometimes, when I need someone fit and able-bodied to follow me around for the weekend, lifting my bike on and off the train, I go to WellHungPoolBoys to pick out an assistant. I suppose I could just ask a conductor, but I feel like WellHungPoolBoys vets their assistants better. They have extensive training programs to assure me that one of their people will lift my bike onto the train just right.
Come to think of it, "I was doing undercover research for a new book" would have been a more plausible excuse.
Isn't Rekers saying that he particularly sought out a sex worker for the opportunity to convert him during the trip?
I do that with my assistants too, as soon as they're done lifting and carrying.
It does help to explain why these folks are so sure that sodomy laws and shaming are the only reason there's any straight sex happening at all.
288 gets it right. Tell Mr. Rekers that there are billions of people in the world who never hear the voice of Satan in their ear tempting them to do homosexual things, and that most people don't need constant reminders of God's disapproval in order to avoid gay sex, and he flat-out will not believe you.
I'm just not sure how he'd have managed to hide things until now, if that were the case.
He probably didn't, and it probably wasn't coincidence that somebody was at the airport to get photos of his arrival home.
I hadn't seen the news in 287 (but I haven't read anything about this other than Apo's link), but that strikes me as the sort of more polished excuse someone like Rekers would offer if he had actually been trying to hire a sex worker. If that's what he's saying, he's clearly guilty. (NTTAWWT.)
284: The thing is, he's totally busted. All the lying skills in the world wouldn't help him in this situation. Even a true but implausible story wouldn't help him: if he really was researching the life of gay sex workers for a book, and so he went on vacation with this guy, no one on earth would believe him. So the fact that his story sounds absurd isn't, I think, evidence that anything non-obvious is going on -- there is no non-absurd story a skillful liar could come up with in this situation.
Even a true but implausible story wouldn't help him: if he really was researching the life of gay sex workers for a book, and so he went on vacation with this guy, no one on earth would believe him.
Well not if he offered that as an excuse, no. That's my point.
He had to have gay sex with a prostitute who advertises his services on rentboys.com to prevent a terrorist attack that would have crippled the nation. This was the only way.
there is no non-absurd story a skillful liar could come up with in this situation
"I did not have sexual relations with that rentboy, Mr. Lucien."
293: 'I was totally just trying to convert him' sounds more plausible to you?
The article says their private emails prior to the trip confirm they'd booked a room with two beds.
the guy's just a terrible liar
The information that he found his friend on that website is not public-- as long as he keeps denying it, there may be someone gullible enough to believe him and keep funding him. He knows his target audience better than you do. Or he's more twisted than JE Hoover and Clyde Tolson put together.
Being closeted or otherwise being a persecuted minority presumably develops simultaneous mutually incompatible self-images beyond the reckoning of soft complacent liberals in a permissive environment.
Here's the ad Rekers responded to.
296: 'I was totally just trying to convert him' sounds more plausible to you?
More plausible than "I just hired him to carry my luggage"? Yes, more plausible by miles. Does it not to you?
297: Oh, that changes everything. Poor guy, I guess he just didn't think about how questionable it would all look to hostile journalists.
My work is blocking 299 as adult content, but I'm willing to speculate that it offers evidence in support of 300.
300: No, more plausible than "I was researching sex workers for a book." Investing plane tickets for two and a hotel room for a week on the chance of converting one guy seems uneconomical, no?
Separate twin beds, no less. Couldn't spring for a double?
Your work blocks rentboy.com? What a buncha prudes.
Investing plane tickets for two and a hotel room for a week on the chance of converting one guy seems uneconomical, no?
Converting him to AN ETERNITY OF HEAVEN from AN ETERNITY OF HELL? Can any price be too great?
299: see, he has talents as a tour guide and interpreter. What's the problem?
OK, how come it's the person who didn't spend a chunk of his professional career representing tobacco companies who wants to spend time parsing which argument fails the giggle test more disastrously?
He wanted hott sex with him at all angles, he didn't want to drift to sleep cradled in his arms! What d'you think he is, nosflow, some kind of homosexual?
You think the ad specifies that he is open to conversion, but don't talk about how he has all the calluses he needs to pick up your luggage?
he has talents as a tour guide and interpreter
And a "travel companion."
303: Hmm... I'm not sure I understand exactly why we're weighing the plausibility of those two counterfactuals, but I'd say they're roughly on par with one another. Neither seems even remotely probable, but both are entirely plausible, and could be offered with a straight face. Unlike the porter excuse.
300: I think you are underestimating both how well confident-sounding bluffing usually works for folks like this guy (until suddenly it doesn't in spectacular fashion), and the complexity and number of levels of deception he was probably operating under most every day of his life. I bet he has successfully run similar whoppers past people a number of times in the past.
I demand at least a queen-size bed (laugh it up, you swine) before I drift to sleep in anyone's arms. I hate sleeping on a twin even with no one else.
Brock, when you were younger, did you get out much? Self-hating members of minorities who collaborate with their oppresors are pretty standard-- Roy Cohn is one recent example.
oh, 302. You are joking.
The great thing about hiring your tour guide from rentboy.com is they can do the job effectively pretty much anywhere. No more hiring one guy in Aruba, another guy in Rio, another guy in Kuala Lumpur, another guy in Fredericton, and so on.
I hate sleeping on a twin even with no one else.
Cowardly and wasteful!
I bet he has successfully run similar whoppers past people a number of times in the past.
He wouldn't be the first man of God to do so.
312: I think I misunderstood your 293 -- I thought you were saying that 'research for a book' was just as implausible as 'carrying my luggage', but 'I wanted to convert him' was way more plausible. Now I think you were asking, 'Why didn't he give a plausible excuse like "research for a book" or "wanted to convert him", instead of something ridiculous like "wanted him to carry my luggage"?' To which I reply, as I said in 292, that even 'research for a book', even though it might be more plausible than 'luggage', still isn't anywhere close to believable -- there just wasn't a lie that, well told, could have gotten him out of this.
I hate sleeping on a twin even with no one else.
I prefer to lie next to someone when I'm sleeping, not on top of them, but this isn't limited to twins--it's true for anyone I'm sleeping with.
Now I think you were asking, 'Why didn't he give a plausible excuse like "research for a book" or "wanted to convert him", instead of something ridiculous like "wanted him to carry my luggage"?' To which I reply, as I said in 292, that even 'research for a book', even though it might be more plausible than 'luggage', still isn't anywhere close to believable -- there just wasn't a lie that, well told, could have gotten him out of this.
Well, it might or it might not be more believable--I think the right question is "believable to who?"--but my point was more about which of those two sets of lies would one be more likely to craft if one were crafting a lie about the situation, and that's where "luggage" fails badly. So badly that it makes me wonder if he wasn't straighforwardly crafting a lie. But the more likely explanation is probably just that he's a terrible liar.
MANY'S THE NIGHT I'VE SPENT WITH NOTHING BETWEEN ME AND THE COLD GROUND BUT A THIN NATIVE GIRL.
So badly that it makes me wonder if he wasn't straighforwardly crafting a lie.
Trying to empathize with the guy, I would guess that: (1) he didn't have a cover story set up ahead of time for getting busted by someone who knew the guy was a sex worker, because he knew if it got that far it was hopeless; (2) he really did recently have surgery; (3) he really did think it was nice having a strong young man around to lug his literal suitcases; and (4) it popped out as the excuse on the tip of his mind when he was confronted.
The 'this is where Brock makes my head hurt' component of this conversation is, what's the option other than 'he was straightforwardly lying' that you're considering? Telling the truth seems absurd, concealing something other than that he was having sex with the guy doesn't make sense, because why wouldn't he have told a better lie to conceal that... what are you wondering about as an alternative?
I'd have gone with something more like: "God commanded me in a vision to seek out this evil, to take upon myself this great weight of sin, to experience firsthand to degradation of our nation's morality, in order that I might better minister the truth of His Word to His people. And I begged Him, with tears I begged Him: "Lord, no, not me," but He commanded me again: "Go. This is your Golgatha. You must carry this cross." And I obeyed. [Pause to wipe tears.] And now I stand here before you, ready to speak with renewed authority on the dark plague of homosexual evil that has infected this great nation."
This is all a brilliant ploy to hide the fact that he didn't have surgery even though he says he did. AND IT'S WORKING!
326: OR "GOD COMMANDED ME IN A VISION TO TERRORISE THESE EVIL BUTTOCKS WITH MY MONSTER WHOPPER".
The 'this is where Brock makes my head hurt' component of this conversation is, what's the option other than 'he was straightforwardly lying' that you're considering? Telling the truth seems absurd, concealing something other than that he was having sex with the guy doesn't make sense, because why wouldn't he have told a better lie to conceal that... what are you wondering about as an alternative?
Writing a book was the only thing I could come up with.
329: But how do you get from "he told a really implausible story" to "so maybe he wasn't really fucking the guy, he was writing a book"? Wouldn't he admit he was writing a book at this point?
Down with which I could not come.
Up with into which I could come.
331: I was thinking maybe he didn't want his cover blown.
This is an awfully weird conversation.
I'm still at work--can anyone tell me if rates are listed in 299?
"And now I stand here before you, ready to speak with renewed authority on the dark plague of homosexual evil that has infected this great nation."
"It's awesome! I cannot EVEN believe I've been bothering with pussy all these years."
338: And the Btock-o-meter takes another upward lurch.
338 isn't personal, obviously--I'm just still wondering about 261.
They should really be listed as "divers".
Teo is more adept at rentboy.com than I am.
346: I'm mostly just amazed such a site exists so openly.
Also, in case this whole graduate school thing doesn't work out, it's nice to know there are other options out there for good-looking tour guides.
350: If you've still got the uniform from the summer job, you can probably charge extra when you're requested to don that get-up.
350: Totally use the picture with the hat. The hat works.
The guy should have gone here instead, although I guess that would be more of a long-term commitment.
Assuming, of course, that LB's taste in younger men matches that of self-hating old closet cases.
355: but teo might prefer to cultivate a clientele more like LB than like self-hating old closet cases. So.
Why are we so sure LB isn't an elderly gay man?
356: You're not understanding the revenue model here.
It's too weak to be believable--I'd think if Rekers were lying, he's have come up with something better than that.
When people get caught they panic. I hear the dumbest godamn stories all the time. "My god is that the best you could come up with?" is par for the course.
"He's my personal rollerblading trainer."
So I downloaded all the mixes tonight and they are making me very happy. Especially Sifu's, which is why I feel I have no choice but to reward him with a ten-day trip to London and Madrid. Honestly, no choice.
restraints restrictions may apply.
This is all a brilliant ploy to hide the fact that he didn't have surgery even though he says he did. AND IT'S WORKING!
The lengths people will go to commit insurance fraud. No wonder health care is so expensive here.
http://rapidshare.com/files/383656527/inner_reality.ZIP
Something for everyone, everything for no-one but me most likely.
ramones- spiderman
al green- I want to hold your hand
bronski beat- aint necessarily so
nouvelle vague- confusion
rachid taha- rock el casbah
clipse- eyes on me
bow wave- paseracka
konono no 1- kule kule
nils lofgren- like a hurricane
los lobos- I got loaded
champs- tequila
lonnie johnson- death valley is half way to my home
les paul- cheek to cheek
pretenders- tequila (not the one you expect)
dfb- don't fear the reaper
tags suck, sorry. Also the last track is upbeat, best right after bow wave.
I came up with nothing for songs about real people, so went for inner truth, mostly.
I'm stubbornly ignoring the rent boy tangent, pretending I did not see Brock earnestly debating the merits of the "carrying my luggage" defense, and continuing to treat this as a music thread. And you'd best believe I'm downloading the shit out of a mix with Al Green and the Pretenders and the Ramones and Clipse all in one place.
Now that I have some concentrated, relaxed home listening time, I'm also getting a good listen to most of these mixes for the first time. Reportage so far: the Yo vs. the Volcano mix is fucking amazing. I'm curious as to what the story behind the opening "Rock 'n Roll Sermon" track is.
Someone should should make a 'Malcolm McLaren was a very bad man mix'. Sex Pistols, Bow Wow Wow, New York Dolls, & Adam Ant.
m, lots of hit tracks there
You're someone, max.
DS, a nod's as good as a wink to a blind bat
Not to mention "Deep in Vogue" by Malcolm McLaren and the Bootzilla Orchestra featuring Willi Ninja, which came out BEFORE the Madonna song and was TOTALLY ripped off by it.
tags suck, sorry.
I go in and edit everybody's tags to match my classification scheme anyhow.
Among its many other intriguing offerings, I really love the Marika Papagika track on neb's mix. I'm especially enamored by the way it sounds superficially like music from a Hindi film.
(The Gonzalez cover of Teardrop is gorgeous, of course, but I was expecting that.)
I enthusiastically endorse 67:
have you guys seen the best music video of right now?
I know 284 comments' worth of pwnage is no record... but perhaps it's an honorable mention?
lw: The Lonnie Johnson didn't make it into your .zip file.
So I finally put my mix up. As usual, I think, mostly relatively well known stuff, with a couple of exceptions. There's a definite vibe.*
The first track is worth the download alone, so you know you want to ...
Dysthmia, or the Anatomy of Melancholy ...
C.W. Stoneking - Brave Son Of America
Barbara & The Browns - I Don't Want To Have To Wait
Vanessa Paradis - Les Revenants
Artie Shaw & His Orchestra - Nightmare
Miles Davis - Chez Le Photographe Du Motel
Clarence Williams - Jerry The Junker
Karine Polwart - Mirk Mirk Is This Midnight Hour
Wayne Hancock - Cow Cow Boogie
Django Reinhardt - Blue Drag
Jimmy Rushing - Gee Baby, Ain't I Good To You
Roisin Murphy - Through Time
Frank Sinatra - Willow Weep For Me
There's a playlist file, so you should get the tracks in the right order.
* and always, I have the phear that I've used one or more of these before ...
Especially Sifu's, which is why I feel I have no choice but to reward him with a ten-day trip to London and Madrid. Honestly, no choice.
Yaaaaay!
Reportage so far: the Yo vs. the Volcano mix is fucking amazing.
Yaaaaay!
I'm curious as to what the story behind the opening "Rock 'n Roll Sermon" track is.
It's from a collection of weirdo gospel and is, as far as I know, meant entirely in earnest.
This is a pretty epic mixtape thread.
Okay, I now have all the mixes downloaded, everything converted into mp3s (nosflow), tags all edited to my satisfaction, and all piled onto the iPod for absorption over the coming days. The two I've listened to so far (Tweety's and Mr. Blandings' first one) have been awesome. Music threads make me happy. Thanks, everyone who's posted so far!
Anybody know if when you set the start/stop time for a track in iTunes at other than 0:00/End (i.e., using the Options Menu) that gets preserved when other people import the track into their own iTunes or other mp3 player?
Yes re: epic mixes, I need to download everyone else's mixes. They'll be perfect for the commute over the next few days.
Pimping mine again, that C.W. Stoneking track really is stellar.
381: I think so, if you're importing back into iTunes. Other mp3 players I'm not sure.
313 is my bet. This guy is used to making excuses to gullible people who want to believe authority figures can do no wrong. It's hard to overstate the degree to which authoritarian religious followers engage in self delusion - suspension of disbelief is practically a requirement.
The guy is on the board of one of those "therapy can cure gayness" organizations. I doubt all these years he's fooled anyone other than those really anxious to be fooled.
You were right, ttaM. "Brave Son of America" is worth the download all on its own.
378: It's from a collection of weirdo gospel and is, as far as I know, meant entirely in earnest.
Denouncing rock and roll by way of... rock and roll. It's a thing of beauty.
380: everything converted into mp3s
What do you use for conversion software, BTW?
385: Hey, cut that out, you. It's a music thread again.
383, 384: Thanks. I'll experiment with it later. It won't matter for this mix. I tried the fame challenge yesterday and sadly failed. So this morning I just made a maximally genre-confused mix instead (link):
The Mourning After Fame
1. "Que Buena Baila Usted, " Beny More
2. "Return of Django," Lee Perry
3. "Bat Macumba," Gilberto Gil
4. "Eye-Shaking King," Amon Düül II
5. "Eat That Phone Book Coda," Gong
6. "Shadow," Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan
7. "Princes," Gang Gang Dance
8. "Get Tough," CD III
9. "Water Curses," Animal Collective
10. "Catalina Escapes," John Zorn
11. "Lord Can You Hear Me," Spiritualized
12. "Wouldn't You Miss Me (Dark Globe)," Syd Barrett
388: Hey, I just saw Gang Gang Dance a few weeks ago. It was...different.
389: It was really something? You'd never have believed such music was possible?
390: They were really high, that much was clear.
What do you use for conversion software, BTW?
For the oggs, I installed the Xiph Quicktime components so that iTunes will recognize them, which would be sufficient except that iTunes doesn't let you edit the tag metadata on them enough to scratch my OCD organizational itches. So once I import them into iTunes, I use the built-in iTunes converter.
I downloaded Switch to convert the .wma files, but it just crashes. I'll get that figured that out tonight.
It's from a collection of weirdo gospel and is, as far as I know, meant entirely in earnest.
This reminds me that I want Goodbye Babylon.
I really love the Marika Papagika track
The compilation I got it from is tip top. I think I posted some youtube links from it once, but I can't find it any longer. Ah! Here it is.
391 to pretty much all of 388.
Also I'm wondering when I started using "dig" sincerely and unselfconsciously.
XLD is pretty good for anything-to-anything audio conversion.
I usually use foobar2000 for conversion.
Missing Lonnie Johnson and more blues
http://rapidshare.com/files/384042016/blue.ZIP
369: You're someone, max.
Fair point, but I don't have all the vinyl. Or the plastic. Luckily, I'm young at heart so you get a youtube playlist:
Malcom McClaren Was a Bad Man (click this link and hit play all or click single songs):
1) Friend Or Foe - Adam Ant
2) Holidays In The Sun - Sex Pistols
3) Go Wild In The Country - Bow Wow Wow
4) Desperate But Not Serious - Adam Ant
5) Red Patent Leather (live, actually three songs) - New York Dolls
6) Anarchy in the UK (studio) - Sex Pistols
7) Ant Rap - Adam And The Ants
8) C30, C60, C90 Go (live) - Bow Wow Wow
9) Stand and Deliver - Adam & The Ants
10) God Save the Queen (studio) - Sex Pistols
11) Baby Oh No (12" Remix) - Bow Wow Wow
12) Kings Of The Wild Frontier - Adam & The Ants
13) Aphrodisiac - Bow Wow Wow
14) Pretty Vacant - Sex Pistols (HD)
15) I Want Candy HD - Bow Wow Wow
16) Goody Two Shoes - Adam Ant (HQ)
17) Bow Wow Wow - Do You Wanna Hold Me?
m, he was, he was
