More exactly, the Pakenham Arms
This is me in black (if this link works)
(Thanks Stanley)
1: Updated post with full name and link.
Pasquinaders seek flatulists for banter, raillery. No Mexicans need apply.
The email address on this comment will work if you want my mobile no. Which might be handy for emergency recognition purposes.
The email address on this comment will work if you want my mobile no. Which might be handy for emergency recognition purposes.
Since ttaM has it tattooed on his cheek.
Of all people, the Londoners have no respect for tradition?! "Who wants to sex Mutombo?" will be asked to each patron at the pub until you find each other. Those are the rules.
Because "knives out, motherfuckers" would just get you stabbed.
That looks like a great exhibition, thanks neb.
They don't know who Mutombo is over there. It'll have to be "Djemba-Djemba" or "Papa Bouba Diop" or something.
8: Pro-tip: If you use a sign make it BIG.
This seems like a good/terrible place to admit that no matter how many times The Awl refers to England as Knifecrime Island, I still laugh.
"Do you enjoy talking to Americans about feminism and stand mixers?" "Oh, thanks then, I must be looking for someone else."
they'll be getting their plates of meat over to the Pakenham Arms pub ... to piss it up the wall or whatever other gobshite you folks get into across the pond ... this group of mates is so bloody nice, they'd probably even welcome an Irishman!
I see Dick van Dyke is blogging here now that he's awl done wiv chirmeney sweepin.
Don't complain, Gonerill, he works cheap.
It's as if Gonerill thinks I might've just googled "London slang" and poked around the first result for a few minutes till I had enough random expressions for a post. To be honest, I'm really quite insulted by the suggestion.
Actually I suspect he thinks you didn't even bother with that much research.
17: In that case, I'm doubly offended. What, like I don't put in a modicum of effort around here? Geez.
I'm pretty sure a gobshite is a type of person, not an ineffable substance.
Stanley, I believe that the "should" you use in the first paragraph is improper, being reserved in this sense for the first person; in the third person one uses "would", just as one would in American English regardless of the person.
"Should" here is being used as the subjunctive of "shall", and sufficiently old-school British English speakers mark a confusing (to me) distinction between "shall" and "will"; just as such a person would say "I shall see you tonight", that person would say "I should hope so" (or whatever). However, even someone who says that would still say "He will see you" and "he wouldn't do that".
Whereas "I will ..." and "he shall ..." have a different meaning, see.
More than most people want to know about "shall" and "will".
20: I can't imagine I might have intentionally put it there to try to sound like an American trying overly hard to sound like a Brit. I just really can't imagine that.
23: oi, take a lorry to standpipe's blog for a pip, what?
26: eekbeat got an MA in linguistics, but I make no claims of possessing her. Because I'm a feminist.
But not a cunning feminist. According to neb.
Stanley might be a minimally cunning feminist.
no matter how many times The Awl refers to England as Knifecrime Island, I still laugh.
I do too. You know what else made me laugh? Learning that Cecil Beaton's secretary was arrested for glassing a bird in 1957.
[Stanley's response deferred while he popped out to blow a fag.]
You're square at both ends and have questionable content?
35: Do me a solid (do people in Boston really say that? My new roommate is from Boston and says that) and make that my epitaph.
I've heard it plenty of times before, but it wouldn't have occured to me that it was a regional phrase. It certainly could be.
Ok, if the Londoners can arrange a meet-up that quickly, can we make a serious effort at a Bay Area one? Maybe in late May?
Also, while I'm requesting things that won't happen, can someone renew my driver's license for me? I don't want to deal with the DMV, but it appears I can't do it by mail.
36: I cannot consciously remember ever hearing it. Apparently it was used in a Seinfeld episode.
KRAMER: Hey. Hey, would you do me a solid?
JERRY: Well, what kind of solid?
KRAMER: I need you to sit in the car for two minutes while it's double-parked. I gotta pick up some birds.
...
KRAMER: George, do me a solid? Two minutes.
GEORGE: Well, I'm going with him. I'd like to, I've never done a solid before.
36, 37: I have heard it often, thought not since the mid 1990s or so. I also do not think of it as a regional expression.
OK, Bay Area meetup. Let's take this seriously. East Bay or SF? Even though I (and nosflow, last I checked) live in SF, I am going to propose East Bay, as maybe in addition to making things easier for the EB crowd, we might then attract residents of the Sacramento-Arden-Arcade-Roseville Metropolitan Statistical Area. So, Jupiter? (Sorry, I really haven't been to that many East Bay bars, and that one's nice and close to BART.)
The weekends of 5/14-5/16 and 5/21-5/23 are thus far largely free for me. I have something on the afternoon of 5/23. Let's make this happen.
Either side of the bay is fine with me.* It's not that difficult for me to get to BART and I got one of those new-fangled translink** cards.
*Don't even start with "north bay" and "south bay." Those places exist for non-meetup purposes only, which is to say, they barely exist.
**They've got chips like the cards in DC, but work on multiple transit systems in the Bay Area. I'm sure everyone wants to know this detail.
I'm leaving the Bay Area for the summer 5/19, and doing Bay to Breakers 5/16, so prefer the 14th or 15th. And Jupiter would serve, I think.
Has Jupiter always been there? I've gone by that block probably hundreds of times, but very few times in the last 10 years.
Jupiter's been there for at least 15 years.
(And it's an excellent meetup spot.)
Teo! You coming to the meetup?
Ah, forgot about Bay to Breakers. I guess that Sunday is out for me, too--unless we wanted to have a 12K travelling meetup.
And TransLink is way badass. And it was only deployed 10 years behind schedule, or something.
Also, the 15th is probably a bit better for me, since on the 14th I'd have to cross the bay at commute hours with commuters (not that that's that big of a deal, since my hours don't run all that late).
The 15th is pretty much impossible for me to make, but no worries. (I do love Jupiter's, though.)
47: I always associate that spot with the cookie shop which may or may not still be nearby. I guess I never really noticed bars as a kid.
Also, um, isn't Jupiter's usually quite crowded on weekend nights? I've been turned away a few times.
Eh, the 14th is fine for me if it's better for everyone else.
52: Please, (): It's Jupiter, not Jupiter's. No possessive. There is no entity named "Jupiter" that possesses the establishment; it simply has a name of its own. Evidence: [1], [2]. Don't be like those people who call the bakery in my neighborhood "Arizmendi's" or the pizzeria across the street from that bakery "Milano's".
Josh did it too! I believe that it is colloquially referred to as such by denizens of the East Bay. (Of which I am not one, but I've only ever been to Jupiter('s) with East Bay people.)
Josh did it too!
I did *not* write "Jupiter's's".
56: That doesn't narrow things down terribly.
Arizmendi is colloquially referred to as "Arizmendi's" by denizens of the Inner Sunset, but that doesn't make doing so any less of a sin against man and God.
Or it's terrible at narrowing things down. Anyway, I'm apparently not far from Otto's apparent neighborhood.
I'm likely to be around that weekend. Jupiter is boring; we should do something actually fun, like taking Cheeseboard pizza up to Codornices Park, but besides that, I'm in.
Love that Otto took charge of this.
I already know that everyone loves Jupiter and it is easy and we'll default to there. I'm not raising a real objection. But it is boring, and too loud and they don't have anything but beer. Can't we find a taqueria with a patio and pitchers of things that aren't beer?
Teo! You coming to the meetup?
Sadly, no. But I'll support you from afar.
But it is boring
And what, we're not exciting enough for you?
Codornices has a nice view, I guess, but aside from the secret little waterfall, I don't know that it's worth going all the way out there.
There's Henry's, a quieter hotel bar south of campus, though it's farther from BART. Or there's Triple Rock.
Triple Rock (which I like) has to be more boring than Jupiter, no? Unless the roof somehow beats out the garden and fire pit? It may be that I don't quite understand Megan's rubric for labeling things boring, though.
Triple Rock will be even noisier than Jupiter, and doesn't have anything other than beer and wine.
As long as we're meeting-upping, no one else is going to be in Salinas, Kansas, June 10-13th, right?
Okay, just checking.
I have no strong opinion on anywhere as long as we can hear each other reasonably well. We can save interesting places for activities centered around places.
(Given that it looks like I can't come, I don't even know why I'm making running commentary on Berkeley bars. But it's fun!)
We still haven't picked a day, have we?
Yeah, could you come 5/14, Parenthetical?
Maybe. Fridays aren't great for me for a variety of reasons. But don't plan around me! I am so not the life of the party.
Is anyone coming to the meetup going to be the life of the party? Do we have a designated party life?
I think that's fake accent, Otto.
Yes, the sober are always the most lively.
We are also still missing any word from nosflow and essear (if he is indeed going to be in the area).
Megan's rubric for labeling things boring
Only serves beer, which I don't drink. Service is slow; food is slower and not even ethnic. Place is too loud to talk. Boring.
Codornices has swings and basketball courts and the big slide, and when you want to eat, you can take your pizza across to the rose garden for the view. Even just a regular food place would be better than Jupiter, because then we could get a meal.
71: Then why don't we go to a place? Museum? Park?
As much as I like museums and parks, I doubt they make for great meet-ups for a group of people. Museums can be pretty loud anyway, and when they're not they usually want you to shut up too.
I have gotten so, so drunk at Jupiter waiting for my dealer to open his evening hours. Bone-idle motherfucker.
Dealers have hours? Are they typically posted on their Yelp listings?
You mean Salina?
They must have had a vowel movement I hadn't heard about.
I don't expect to be free the weekend of the 15th, but the next weekend should be fine.
How about … Thalassa? I have no idea how crowded it gets on the weekend, tbh, having only been there once on a Monday, but it seems fairly capacious. Serves non-beer.
Also, is there more than one Arizmendi?
I had a sazerac in Berkeley early this evening. Today reinforced the lesson that commuter rail in this area is awful. Maybe I'll have to rent a car for part of the time that I'm here.
Commuter rail is great here, if you have a car. (Actually, still not so much, but it was mostly designed for car/rail combinations.) It was even worse when there was no easy Caltrain/BART connection, although the Dumbarton bridge route can be scenic.
Mostly it's just annoyingly slow. It doesn't seem reasonable that it takes noticeably longer to go 30 miles up the peninsula into SF than it takes me to go 50 miles from central NJ to NYC. (The category of "things that make me appreciate NJ Transit" isn't huge, but there you have it.)
I think that's an issue of at-grade crossings, but I could be wrong. Back when I was paying attention to transit issues, there were some proposals for Caltrain electrification that looked pretty good because they would improve the tracks too. The early BART plans had BART running all the way down the peninsula.
Also, is there more than one Arizmendi?
The one in my neighborhood is the flagship, but there are also "sister cooperatives" in Oakland, Emeryville, and San Rafael. Cheeseboard and the Arizmendis are also somehow related.
Or maybe things were slow today because a train hit someone.
I should have read the page I linked before I hit post. Cheeseboard -> Arizmendi Oakland -> Arizmendi SF, it seems. Also, note that Arizmendi is on its way to Valencia Street, and they're hiring..
I have actually never been to any Arizmendi or the Cheeseboard.
And also, I think I'm almost certainly going to be in Berkeley on the 16th, regardless of anything else that's going on. I know many people can't make it to a general meet-up that day, but if anyone wants to get a burrito or something, I can make that.
Megan is right. Jupiter is boring.
(Not that I'll be there; I'll be hundreds of miles to the south. But Megan is right!)
Why don't we just go to Fresh Salt, like usual, then?
Transcontinental commuter rail is awful. Sure, you cross New Jersey quickly, but that's about it.
Huh, I really like Jupiter. I've only been there a few times but it certainly didn't strike me as boring. But, I live in the sticks.
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Having (embarrassingly) just seen Twilight: New Moon, I don't understand how Team Edward or Team Jacob is even a choice.
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Transcontinental commuter rail is awful.
Can this be done? What's west of SEPTA?
My friends always choose it, so I imagine Jupiter is fun for people who like beer. But my experience is consistent.
i bought a fifth of gin for the freezer and just poured some. i feel so waspy right now.
"things that make me appreciate NJ Transit"
SEPTA is definitely in this category.
I like SEPTA. NJ Transit doesn't go anywhere. I never took it anywhere other than the Trenton-NYC route.
a fifth of gin for the freezer
Your freezer drinks gin? Or, like, you're storing it there?
Do people really store booze in the freezer beyond college? It seems so, uh, "woo! college! no parents! woo!" to me, but perhaps it's a generally practiced thing of which I was unaware.
You should store akvavit in the freezer, because it needs to be drunk maximally cold. Emerson would have told you this, but he's retired. The idea of frozen Scotch curdles the blood.
It's practical if you're likely to want to drink it straight and cold -- we've got a bottle of vodka infused with Concord grapes that a friend makes (usually, she sticks with cranberry) in there that Buck nips at on a semi-regular basis.
The idea of frozen Scotch curdles the blood.
Actually putting ice in Scotch curdles the Scotch. It also ruins the taste, which is why you shouldn't do it.
I've always sort of wanted to do the 'freezing a bottle of vodka into a block of ice' thing for a party -- Martha Stewarty in a drunk kind of way. But I never remember beforehand.
Do people really store booze in the freezer beyond college?
Just vodka for us.
114: Ice luge at LB's next party. You heard it here first.
Vodka is nice straight from the freezer, too.
Freezing Scotch results in a small team of ginger-heidit ninjas paying a short visit with a long chib.
Nobody actually does keep brown liquor in the freezer, even in college, right? That'd just be weird.
Martha Stewarty in a drunk kind of way
Martha Stewart froze flowers in the ice when I saw her do it on her show.
Also, liquor luges fall into the category of Things One Shouldn't Do After College (If at All).
Lick her luge? I don't even know her luge.
Lick her luge? I don't even know her luge.
I'm more of a bobsled man, myself. (I'm not sure what this means, but it seems bawdy.)
College has liquor luges? I don't know what that is, but now I wish I'd gone to college and found out.
It really does give "Cool Runnings" an entirely, unpleasantly, new meaning. I think.
an ice sculpture of Michelangelo's David spewing vodka from his penis
I so, so wanted one of these for our wedding. Not a David necessarily, but an ice luge with the liquor coming out of the penis. Though given the overall level of drunkenness achieved anyway, it's probably a good thing we didn't have one.
Re the original post:
Every Other Saturday
Every other Saturday's me half day off
And it's off to the match I go
I like to take a stroll along the Anfield Road
Me and me old pal Joe
I like to see the lasses with their red scarves on
I like to hear the Kopites roar
But I don't have to tell that best of all
Is when we see Liverpool sc-o-o-o-ore
We've won the English League about a thousand times
And UEFA was a simple do
We've played some exhibitions in the FA Cup
We are the Wembley Wizards too
But when we won the European Cup in Rome
Like we should have done years before
We gathered down at Anfield
Boys a hundred thousand strong
To give the boys a welcome ho-om-me.
Why don't we just go to Fresh Salt Frjtz, like usual, then?
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Is it fair to call the guy who just got arrested for the NYC car "bomb" a half a teabagger? Because, while he did spend the last 5 months in Pakistan, he did so because he lost his Wall Street job and had his house foreclosed on.
Also, you fortysomething white guys escape internment once again -- but watch it!
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136: That's funny. Didn't Beck go apeshit when they decided to process underwear-bomber dude through Justice rather than putting him on the next flight to Gitmo for a proper waterboarding? What an asshat.
136: Hey, wow. I think he's practically back to being a white guy, then.
Is this a different Faisal Shahzad? Comic Sans: objectively not bad-ass.
I'm in for the same weekends mentioned: 5/14-16 works, as does 5/21-23. This weekend is out though. I'm excited! I missed the July 2007 one and kick myself about it every day. Sometimes, I even cry.
So. Anyone else scared shitless by what's going on in Korea?
141: I sure as hell can't figure out why Kim would go visit China now, of all times.
I do not, in fact, get Fox News on my TV, as we get only the over-the-air signals. I mean, local Fox, sure, but they're all weather, weather, weather, U.Va. students killing each other, weather.
144.penultimate: I saw that last night and almost commented upon it. ACC lacrosse players--history's most privileged monsters.
I sure as hell can't figure out why Kim would go visit China now, of all times.
To stay?
Huh. I hadn't caught this odd little detail until I read the Post at lunch:
Huguely [...] was quoted in a 2006 Washington Post story defending his former Landon teammates, who were among the Duke University players involved in a controversial sexual assault case. They were later exonerated.
Further to 149: That's gonna be one awkward ten-year HS reunion.
147: Kathleen Parker. Well, it depends on who has to file first, I guess. Also, he said it was alcohol poisoning first?
That kid should not be allowed to graduate without taking remedial statistics first.
Considering that the USA Today calculated 857 college student deaths from 2000 to 2005, how does one school manage to escape unscathed?
153 is correct.
i realize vodka is more traditional, but i hate that tasteless shit.
maybe its collegeish, but while i'm out of school, i'm not employed enough to buy good gin. in college, i kept frosty mugs for beer in the freezer. those four mugs were just about the only glasswear we didn't break.
i'm glad LB posted.
i hate that tasteless shit.
Vodka is supposed to be tasteless. Vodka is what you drink when you want to get loaded with the minimum amount of extra calories and the minimum degree of distraction.
'swhy I only drink bisongrass vodka.
Thai Buffalo soldiers thank you, Nosflow.
My dealer had hours, yes: noon to 3 and then 6:30-9. I still have his number engraved in my brain, I've always been kind of curious if he sold it to someone else when he exited the biz. I can't imagine he's still alive, out of jail, and dealing, but one never knows.
So, nothing was decided about a Bay Area meet-up?
You have to keep the conversation alive, dude.
I had to go to sleep and then was offline all day. I'm not the only one trying to get a meet-up to happen.
I'm fortunate to say that I was never involved or associated in one particular college trend in all of my four years - violence or murder.
But he has two weeks of his undergraduate (whoever that is) to go - so there's still time for him to be the victim of a tragic, motiveless depantsing and forcible head-shaving.
I'm not recommending that anyone should do that, I'm just saying.
You call that collegiate violence? This is collegiate violence.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Oxford
"Ordnance was cast at St Mary's College, the mills in Osney became a powder factory and New College the magazine. At New Inn Hall the requisitioned college plate was melted down into "Oxford Crowns" and at Carfax was a gibbet."
The Roundheads make the faculty and students at Patrick Henry look like a bunch of wusses. We need fewer Chads and more Suffer-Not-Injustices.
is the London meet-up starting soon?
Re 131:
You are a scouser,
A ugly scouser,
You're only happy on giro day,
Your mum's out stealing,
Your dad's drug dealing,
Please don't take our hub caps away.
(descant: You are My Sunshine)
Couple of hours yet.
Incidentally, if anyone wants to know how to recognise me, it turns out I'm not wearing an Oxford shirt today. Instead I'm wearing a long sleeve black and grey t-shirt with a faded picture of Monkey (from the Japanese TV show) on it. And an overcoat. I'll also be carrying the most recent Private Eye.
I am sorta kinda setting off now as have sent off first-draft of book proposal and don't want to be thinking "which button is UNSEND AND DELETE" any more...
Remarkably I am largely in black: black hoodie, black scarf, black jumper, grey jeans w.hole in knee, sandals. Fluffy green pencil case, for no apparent reason (as it's a pub).
Obv if I arrive first I will have taken all my clothes off possibly no longer be wearing eg my scarf.
We want pictures and drunken commenting. Well, more drunken commenting.
I've just got in, so after a quick shower I'll be on my way. Hopefully there before 8. I'll be wearing a scruffy looking brown cord jacket, blue jeans. the previously mentioned leather satchel-thingie and/or camera, and prob. have a scarf on.*
* because mrs nattargcm thinks with a scarf I'll look less like a mugger. I'm not sure why she thinks looking less like a mugger is desirable, though ..
Is it just me, or do the Brits seem more concerned with their ability to locate one another in the pub than anyone's ever been for a meet-up on this side of the pond? Clearly, this difference is illustrative of an important cultural difference between our two peoples.
Let's all pretend that second sentence contains a synonym of "difference" the second time that word appears, shall we?
175: whereas we are comfortable to have the occasional commenter (*cough* ari */cough*) sit in the bar staring at the meetup for 2 hours unsure if he should go talk to them or not.
177: ari did that? I do not recall this happening, but that's really funny.
175: Presumably the British (technically, southern British and especially London) aversion to talking to strangers.
176: I recommend pretending instead that the first instance of "difference" never existed. Because I'm a feminist. No, wait, I mean editor. I always get those confused.
re: 175
Knife-crime, innit. Staring at strange blokes in the pub isn't without its risk. Plus, by discussing outfits we make sure we don't clash. It wouldn't do to all turn up in the same outfit ...
I am wondering who the culturally-appropriate person is for the British commenters to be sexing? "Who wants to sex Peter Crouch" hasn't the same appeal.
177: Or simply never making contact, like Brock at his first in Boston.
Peering around in a vaguely nervous way works really quite well IME.
The weather in London must be grim -- two people wearing scarves in May?
WHO WANTS TO SEX RONALDO?
That may get more responses than you were intending, though.
It wouldn't do to all turn up in the same outfit ...
Have I ever told the story of one of my early dates with Buck? I had this very nifty suit I wore to work that day, a hand-me-down from a fashiony friend. A doublebreasted navy chalk-stripe pantsuit, sort of a forties gangster look, but tailored for a woman, with a nipped waist. I looked great, in a vaguely not-entirely-heterosexual sort of way, but great. Until I showed up at the opera and realized that Buck had also worn a navy chalk stripe suit that day. We looked like a vaudeville act.
Nah, we broke up shortly thereafter, and didn't get back together for a few months after that.
Look, all it takes is one person ostentationlessly carrying this book, and everyone else will recognize him. There must be a place you can buy or borrow it in London.
The weather in London must be grim -- two people wearing scarves in May?
13 degrees C? Merely fashionable.
ostentationlessly
Unostentatiously?
Meet-up history question - Does the "Pakenham" in "Pakenham Arms" refer to Gen. Ned Pakenham, the British general killed in the Battle of New Orleans? Somehow, creepily, this all may be related to the oil spill off Louisiana...or Blackwater aka Xe Services. I haven't decided yet.
His body was returned in a cask of rum and buried in the Pakenham family vault in Killucan in Westmeath, Ireland. General Pakenham was also known for a surly temper and a relative was recorded as remarking "The General has returned home in better spirits than he left."
So, have any of the Brits actually located each other and started drinking, or at least exchanging decorative scarves?
Did they all get shitfaced and stab and/or glass each other already? These guys are no fun.
More importantly, is there a karaoke bar nearby?
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Someone probably ordered a Scotch on the rocks, and violence broke out.
COME AND GET ONE IN THE YARBLES, IF YOU HAVE ANY YARBLES, YOU EUNUCH JELLY THOU.
So what was the thread I was commenting in earlier? this mobile-broadband-on-a-train list like dialup without the excitement.
PHWOAR! DRUNKEN TRAINBLOGGING FROM NWORB!
I'd be up for a EBay meetup, but not on the 15th. Either the 14th or the 16th would be fine. I am much duller than Megan, and find the Jupiter pleasant. (Also, there's a sandwich/pasta appendix to it for actual food. Maybe not in the evening?)
EBay meetup
A++++ Would have awkward pint again.
Having read Nworb's comment on the festivities in the other thread, my appetite is but whetted. Where are the brawls? Where's the general agreement on the depressing unfortunateness of American politics? Where are all the vowel sounds?
208: There's the exciting possibility that they're still out drinking, and that would likely mean we're in for a forthcoming river of comments in a tiercely manner.
i: i am tierce-wise, what else would i be
ii: it is like the FIRST ATTAINMENT OF THE NORTH POLE with myself as DR FREDERICK COOK*
iii: i have an awesome couplet from taTU which applies here but you are all too meagre to withstand it
iv: all present were boys hence we spoke of:
A: WAR and EMPIRE
B: the backing up of all relevant archives
C: SPORT**
iv: everyone is lovely and awesome and UNFOGGED EAST is a fixture by which you can SET YR WATCHES and indeed REFASHION YR LIVES
v: there is never a v, i hate v
vi: i am tierce-wise, what else would i be
*In a good way, as if there were another
**Actually no one talked of sport much but the pub was fat with its rituals -- the secret secret about sport is that BOYS HATE IT TOO but dursn't lose face so pretend to like it and know much
vii: i have nworb werdna's glasses and he has the explanation for my awesome name, what can possibly go wrong?
212: why do you have his glasses?
BECAUSE WE ARE AT THE NEXT LEVEL
He took at least two pint glasses away from nworb so as not to be hit in the face with them.
211: I am irrationally enthralled by tierce's decision to number that list in small roman numerals. And by pretty much everything else about the list.
The 14th or the 16th are equally good for me. We can also default to Jupiter, which was always the fate of the meet-up anyway.
I don't suppose other people like going out to brunch? I always like going out to brunch. (I know I talked about going out to brunch here before. That's because I consistently think it is a fun meal to eat out.)
16th it is! Sunday brunch? In SF, maybe? Boogaloos?
Needless to say it doesn't matter to me, but the problem with doing meetup at a brunch is that you're dealing with an indeterminate number of people arriving over a wide range of times, which makes places that like you to sit down and order and eat and then move on somewhat difficult.
Plus, who would condescend to eat at a place with a name like that?
221: Plus, what to do when it's 3pm and the place is closing and you're all still talking, because it turns out you all get along swimmingly? It's a bit early for the karaoke bar.
222: the website will surely improve your opinion of them. They're vibrant yet down-to-earth! They have a hip urban crowd!
What brunch place would you rather go to, neB?
Nah, the website won't make you like them better. But the food was good.
Well, I think Sifu's right about brunch generally, but I'd rather go to Brenda's French Soul Food or that place in Cole Valley.
I heard the Chicago meetup was way cooler than the one in London. Way.
211 possibly the top meet-up comment of the POE (post-Ogged era). Certainly so in the non-US division.
Then you heard wrong Di. We explained WAR.
Wins Above Replacement? Have baseball stats been exported to cricket now?
At first I thought TEGWAR was TENGWAR.
What a dork!
236.1: How is nosflow like Google search?
Well, I think Sifu's right about brunch generally, but I'd rather go to Brenda's French Soul Food or that place in Cole Valley.
I've heard decent things about this place. Save me a doggy bag OKTHNKS.
237: Well, for starters, both of their servers are geographically really close.
I am still bloody waiting for the night bus home.
240: now that is some drunken liveblogging! Could you make an audio recording of yourself cursing shoddy bloody bus schedules?
Brenda's sort of is, but there are long lines all the time, and it's just completely unworkable and let's face it, brunch isn't a very good idea.
241: TEGWAR is a little bit closer.
Worse. Bus turned up while I was talking bollocks to po-mo about my research but totally failed to stop. Half an hour wait and now on next one. F'cking transport.
Hah! And Po-Mo's there! Best transport liveblogging ever! Have you made fun of Po-Mo's accent yet?
Maybe they have "man talking bollocks" sensors.
Po-mo gone. Reduced to adjectiveless typing via shaky iPhone on bus.
Yep. It's still 8 pm as far as my body's concerned, so I bugged ttaM with questions about my misunderstandings of his academic work until he told me to go the fuck home.
No one got knifed though, so I understand that this is a successful end of a night in britain.
The idea that a bus equipped with a "man talking bollocks" sensor would not use said sensor to increase the number of men talking bollocks it was carrying is absurd.
Reduced to adjectiveless typing via shaky iPhone on bus.
You can't put one by us that easily, ttaM.
No one got knifed though, so I understand that this is a successful end of a night in britain.
Quite the opposite, sadly.
248: INTENSE!
Still no night bus home? And my friends here all mock me for not wanting anything to do with the bus system!
Just got on bus. So I assume half hour gap between buses
Are you asking "Is it like an event-oriented M-on-N model in which air defense system outputs are generated on the basis of a probabilistic analysis rather than a set of Monte Carlo runs?
Sort of.
adjectiveless typing
You're not allowed to do this kind of irony around us Americans, it just causes major malfunctions.
I should also add that the Londoners are absolutely lovely people, none of whom made fun of my accent.
(258 was me).
256: Oof, well, best of luck and my apologies once again for that missed bus.
Also, with my semi-drunken state and deep-down feeling that it's dinner time, I'm very lucky that I brought a bunch of peanut butter twix for reasons that still evade me. Otherwise I would've gone to the Chicken Cottage near my hotel, which can best be imagined by non-uk commenters as Popeye's, if it were open til 4 and served falafel and hash browns. I.e. A late-night visit would have probably somehow been worse than a couple peanut butter twix bars.
which can best be imagined by non-uk commenters as Popeye's, if it were open til 4 and served falafel and hash browns.
I swoon.
I still haven't figured out who stole Nworb's glasses.
Originally, I mean. Obviously tierce ended up with him, but I suspect he was a patsy.
With them. With them! AWKWARD TURTLE.
Maybe he *hired* tierce to carry his glasses.
Apparently I've reached Delgado Gardens.
Maybe he *hired* tierce to carry his glasses.
Had he just had surgery?
265: hanging on every update, here!
I swoon.
Seriously, this place is amazing. Their spicy mountain burer features a piece of breast meat fried in a spicy batter, then topped with a slice of cheese and a freshly-fried hash brown. All that is topped with a bit of lettuce and just a dab of spicy mayo for flavor.
All that, plus you can get an extra 5 hot wings to go.
Pardon me, I seem to be drooling on this iPhone.
Shaa Road. With extra vowels.
(Also, there's a sandwich/pasta appendix to it for actual food. Maybe not in the evening?)
The last time I was there, in the evening, I ordered a salad that ended up being enough for dinner, and also a small plate that was more than enough food and fantastically tasty to boot. So yeah. There is food in the evening at Jupiter.
Oh, hah hah, didn't read the rest of the thread. The point above is moot!
And I can't make it that weekend at all, so have a great time!
211.iv: all present were boys
Why did I think that Ginger Yellow was coming, and think that Ginger Yellow was a girl? I see there was no comment in this thread from Ginger Yellow, however.
Brain melt, apparently.
Ginger Yellow was going according to that other thread, and Ginger Yellow is of the male persuasion. (I previously made this mistake.)
The point above is moot!
Is not!
Shaa Road. With extra vowels.
At last!
is of the male persuasion.
It occurs to me that this does not mean what I thought it meant when I typed it.
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Holy shit! The Whigs are playing in town tonight? What am I doing talking to you people?
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Just off the bus. Home by 3am hopefully. On tenterhooks I hope.
On tenterhooks I hope.
Fuckin' A, yeah. Who cares what happens on Lost?
So, to finally reply to 81's We are also still missing any word from nosflow and essear (if he is indeed going to be in the area).:
I'm still confused about my schedule. Because I had this awesome idea that one weekend while I'm out here it would be fun if I snuck sneaked away to Yosemite, seeing as how it is near the top of my "places I haven't ever been to but should have" list. But it's not all that close and getting there seems like a lot of work. So perhaps I will just stay in the Bay Area for each of the next 3 weekends. And then I have to figure out if I can meet up with people I know IRL any of those weekends, although various travel schedules seem to make that difficult.
There's also how I feel like I've been doing nothing but talk to people since roughly when my plane landed and I might need at least one weekend of shutting myself off from the world to be a happy introvert.
But of course there's also that meeting you all sounds like great fun. So, um, please, go on planning, I'll figure out what to do eventually.
272: But he did comment, in 168, I believe! That's how I was able to figure out who he was, after coming back home to find this thread.
277: Glad to hear you're home safe! (or nearly)
And I suppose I should sleep if I want to get anything of use done tomorrow morning... Life would be much easier
sometimes if the earth really was a flat disc with no timezones and a cool-looking edge falling off to the void.
But of course there's also that meeting you all sounds like great fun
Booze helps.
279: I might need at least one weekend of shutting myself off from the world to be a happy introvert.
Shorter essear: "Sex not grex."
Life would be much easier
sometimes if the earth really was a flat disc with no timezones and a cool-looking edge falling off to the void.
We'd have been well-rid of that Columbus fucker.
Not to mention Columbus himself.
Booze helps.
On that note, I tend to prefer places that serve booze in non-beer forms if possible. For whatever that's worth.
273: Ginger Yellow is of the male persuasion
Oh. I kind of love it when this kind of confusion, or blurring, occurs. I thought Witt was male for the longest time -- until UnfoggeDCon2. Oh.
But [Yosemite is] not all that close and getting there seems like a lot of work.
It's 3 hours driving, and you're unlikely to find yourself anyplace closer. It'll be beautiful this time of year.
Ah, heck, I've already said too much.
Said too much?
Obviously tierce ended up with him, but I suspect he was a patnsy.
I'd rather go to Brenda's French Soul Food or that place in Cole Valley
Zazie? Zazie is awesome, although I prefer La Note in Berkeley, which was started by a former Zazie's employee. Neither one is good for a brunch meetup, but either one is better than Boogaloo's which is a) always slammed and b) in the Mission.
Yes, Zazie. I grant its unsuitability for a brunch meetup. Reverie down the street would be better, but of course neither is near bart.
I like Aunt Mary's Cafe quite a bit, on the Oakland side, near MacArthur station.
The 16th, as previously discussed, is the Bay to Breakers, meaning that both Otto and Minivet can't attend that day.
279: I'd go to Yosemite, if I didn't think I'd be likely to have the chance to any time in the nearish future. On the other hand, I've been to Yosemite and wonder how much you can really get out of a weekend. I suppose if you can show up Friday night, you get all of Saturday and a fair amount of Sunday, which gives you enough time for some hiking (if you're into that sort of thing).
For just getting away without going too far, I'd look into either some of the local regional parks (like Sunol/Ohlone both of which involve hiking), or somewhere more widely known like Pt. Reyes, where you don't have to do as much walking. Henry Coe State Park is suppose to be nice, too, but I've never been there.
Sunol is even known as the little Yosemite Valley! Though frankly, the comparison just diminishes the value of Sunol, which I find lovely but nothing like what you get in Yosemite. You can do a long hike in the hills and then hike in the valley, along the river, which is really pleasant. Just try not to hit your head really hard on a branch, like I did.
Pt. Reyes is far more impressive, and the hike to Alamere Falls is wonderful, though often well traveled. You can stop and swim at one of the lakes, then head on to the beach, or vice versa, if the weather is nice enough.
If you go to Yosemite, let me suggest that you spend time one of your days in the high country. The valley is fantastic but it's over populated and you've sort of already seen it.
You mean that Yosemite is actually the big Sunol, right? I suggested Sunol/Ohlone for its relative obscurity (although I guess it might still be busyish on weekends). It might be too late in the season, though, since it's probably not all that green anymore and Murietta Falls isn't going to have any water unless there's just been a storm. Pt Reyes can get downright crowded sometimes, but is a more traditional choice.
Isn't it a bit early for the Yosemite high country? I guess if you're not going too far, it's not a big deal, but wouldn't there be snow still up there? I don't think they've opened the pass yet.
298: Yes, of course, Yosemite is totally the big Sunol. Sunol isn't that busy, even on weekends, at least in my (limited) experience. The hills are still relatively green on this side of the mountains - not sure what they're like there.
And, uh, d'uh. Totally forgot about the snow issue. It is too early for the high country. Forget I said anything, unless you like snow-shoeing or hiking in the snow.
Totally agreed on that one, teo.
Oh right, not the 16th. Planning is hard.
I haven't been to any of the outdoorsy places since the 90s, so my non-climate info is out of shape.
The Whigs were great live, in case anybody cares. I did cut out a bit early, because the club owner keeps bugging me to play a show we simply can't play, due to scheduling issues. Take no for an answer, people! It's sometimes the answer.
Uh, out of date. I'm not really in good shape for hiking right now, though.
I just got back from a bachelor party. I have several observations from this and I am still drunk so I am going to make them here.
A) I don't really like bars.
B) My heretofore theoretical dislike of strip clubs is no longer theoretical.
C) I produce some kind of misanthropic field that is strong enough that even strippers avoid me.
D) Given above I should probably just get used to being alone.
Yes, it's depressing to realise from the thread above that by the time I had finished work ttaM and the others were all well away. Ah well, next year in Hammersmith.
I got the glasses back! Tierce is still speaking to me! I was the man in the sun outside the Angel reading the New Yorker. And now I am pretending to work in a large, quiet office.
And now I am pretending to work in a large, quiet office.
Aren't we all.
Okay, it's decided!
The SFBA meetup is on the 15th at 8PM at Jupiter's. People who don't drink beer should get drunk beforehand or bring a flask, and you'll go to Karaoke afterwards.
Or if the non-beer-drinkers are really going to make a stink, you can go to Thalassa. You'd better decide quickly, though, before I decide for you.
Actually it seems like Thalassa kinda rules:
Looking to hone in on your pool skills? Want to unwind a little after work? Tired of going to the City and paying crazy amounts of money for a drink?
YES, YES I AM.
That killer robot can't protect you forever, Tweety.
The SFBA meetup is on the 15th at 8PM at Jupiter's.
Lunch at Pluto's, dinner at Venus, beer at Jupiter, ....
I totally did that on purpose. I swear. It's in the city of Berkeley's.
Anyhow, we've honed in on Thalassa's.
I'm just pointing out that the Bay Area is a center of some sort of cult related to Roman gods and food. Thalassa is a subversive Greek influence.
And therefore, as unfogged is itself both subversive and greek, entirely appropriate. Thalassa's it is! 8PM on the 15th. Be there or, otherwise, square.
the Bay Area is a center of some sort of cult related to Roman gods and food
The larks'-tongue-and-garum pizza at Jupiter is to die for.
Anyone else beginning to worry about Sifu's unhealthy addiction to meetup live-commenting?
I COULD STOP READING ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE GETTING DRUNK ON THE INTERNET ANY TIME I WANT
See, now he's even mixing up his tenses.
dinner at Venus,
Dinner at Venus, a lifetime with Mercury.
I AM NOT HAVING DONE THAT BEFORE. I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT'LL BE WRONG WITH ME.
I probably could have screwed up the tenses more in 330, if I work at it.
Pretty stupid goals, admittedly. Should we get back to planning the bay area meetup?
We might want to wait for some Bay Area people to weigh in.
They're pretty useless. Somebody needs to step in and make some decisions.
309 causes me joy.
I don't know if I can make it on the 15th, but you know if we go to Thalassa's we should be wearing Captain Nemo steampunk costumes. YOU KNOW YOU SECRETLY WANT TO. Also, I have an essay on steampunk as a cargo cult of our own culture that needs a little liquor to let it loose.
335: Yeah, those effete coastal elites are too flippy-floppy to be trusted to be in charge of diddly squat.
The Green Bay Area is more likely to have a meet-up than the SF Bay Area. You can guess why.
I say we do the 14th at Jupiter. If people feel like playing pool, we can head over to Thalassa; it's not like it's terribly far away.
Have y'all been to Jupiter on a weekend night recently? I have found it very difficult to get a table for two or three, much less more than that.
I offer this just as a caution.
Is there anywhere on a weekend night, close to public transportation, that won't be woefully crowded? I rather doubt it.
Richmond BART. Bring your kevlar vest.
341: Point taken. I've just had particularly bad luck at Jupiter.
I may get pizza at Arinelle's. Since I don't drink at all and will be hungry. It'll be like almost every lunch hour during high school, except they have seating now.
I'm thinking that me not being able to make it will mean you'll find a gigantic table at Jupiter upon stepping into the joint.
The 14th at Jupiter sounds good.
344: Jupiter has tasty pizza, and I'll be happy to share with you (since I'm going to want dinner too).
Josh is takin' charge! Pick a time, Josh.
