Re: Organizational tips for disorganized people

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I stuff my credit card and ATM receipts into a big envelope and when it gets full, I close it and write, "Misc. Receipts To MM/YYYY".


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 12:47 PM
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I place my papers in random folders or containers and sometimes remember to label them.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:00 PM
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Pro tip: outline your weekly schedules in the form of incredibly unclear obfuscatory charts.


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:04 PM
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I have a wire basket on my desk that I put papers in. Sometimes, when it gets overly full, I see if I could maybe throw some of them away or put them someplace else.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:06 PM
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You're all way too organized and neat, as is the linked person.


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:09 PM
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I have a room in my house that I put papers in. Sometimes I put them in a different room.


Posted by: MAE | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:11 PM
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But when I turn something up that actually improves my life, I feel like I hit a home run. My life got better when I switched from using drawers to using shelves, to hold clothes.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:12 PM
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I also have piles of paper on my desk. And on my floor. And on my window sill. And on my filing cabinets. And I have cardboard boxes full of paper. And a bookshelf with piles of paper on the shelves. I also have one of those standup metal things on my desk you can put papers and files into, but I filled it with paper a while back, and it's been long enough that I think none of that paper is likely to actually be relevant any more -- I suspect I could throw it all out without looking at it, if I rescue the instructions for making a many-party conference call.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:13 PM
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Mocked! I'm being mocked!


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:13 PM
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No, that actually all sounds like pretty good advice. Better advice would be to divest yourself of all possessions other than a staff, a saffron robe, and a begging bowl, but you do what you can.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:15 PM
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God, my friend-who-divorced's apartment is so marvelously spare. I'm so jealous. And yet I love my things.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:16 PM
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I have been bringing coffee in a thermal mug and my breakfast (yogurt; hard-boiled egg) in to work with me every morning. It feels like a minor miracle of preparedness.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:18 PM
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Bringing yoghurt and a soft-boiled egg would be more impressive.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:20 PM
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Don't talk to me about yoghurt. This morning, I was packing lunches for the kids, and was trying to send Newt off with a container of leftover tzatziki (and other things, but he likes the tzatziki). There was a little less of it than I wanted, and it seemed a bit thick, so I figured I'd bulk it out with a couple more spoonfuls of yogurt.

And only too late realized I'd stirred in Buck's fershlugginer sweetened vanilla yogurt rather than the decent, Godfearing plain stuff, rendering the tzatziki absolutely inedible.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:32 PM
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I bought myself a paper shredder so that I now have a place to stack papers on top of.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:32 PM
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Great. I had at least a dozen comments worth on insight on yoghurt.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:33 PM
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The prepacking thing is essential, especially with kids. I'm going to Europe tomorrow and I'm already mostly packed without doing anything because I keep all necessary travel-sized toiletries ready to go in my carry on. With (multiple) kids you have to do it you'll forget a toothbrush/some random medicine/etc.
Other thing that works is keep an electronic document that lists all the things you packed last time you traveled. Pack all those things, if you don't need something take it off/mark it as trip specific (e.g. snorkel gear) if you forgot something last time add it and you won't forget it again.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:37 PM
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Every couple weeks I bring in a loaf of bread, a sliced ham (ie not the 10-slice stuff packaged like sandwich meat) and a bunch of sliced cheese, and a jumbo pack of granola bars, and that is my lunches and snacks at work. And diet cokes. Keep it depressing, that's what I always say.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:39 PM
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You eat 14 day old sliced ham?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:40 PM
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It gets slimy after less than a week.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:40 PM
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I whole-heartedly agree with 17, but if I weren't married to Jammies, it would never happen. Fortunately I am and it does.

Also, I complained about my keys, and Jammies produced a carabiner, which has been awesome for keeping them connected to my purse.

I've undertaken such a meticulous study on how to pretend to be an organized person that I think it ought to be a course that gets taught. It can't be a self-help book, obviously.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:42 PM
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SP you might be too organized to participate in this thread. You might be far too organized, with your advance meal preparation day and extra freezers and multi-stage child dropoff accomplished by bicycle and I don't even know.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:42 PM
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I keep my keys in my pocket and try to wear the same pants every day.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:42 PM
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20: It doesn't get slimy the way the sandwich meats do. I'm sure that's not because it's been injected with a Hostess factory's worth of preservatives, but merely because of the slicing technology.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:43 PM
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23 is me, minus "same".


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:43 PM
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For awhile I had some weird little tuna-salad kits consisting of a can of premade tuna salad packaged together with some crackers stuck in the back of a drawer for nights when I was working late enough that I really needed to eat something before I went home. They were disgusting, but that was part of the point, because if there's palatable food where I can get at it I'll just eat it, so to keep food around for when I'm actually hungry it has to be kind of foul.

Then I ate them all on various late nights, and haven't remembered to replace them.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:45 PM
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My drawer has cashews, jelly beans, and candy corn.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:46 PM
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I could keep a drawer full of cashews, jelly beans, and candy corn around for about an hour. Then it would just be a drawer.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:49 PM
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22: SP:this thread::Sifu Tweety:chart thread.


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28: you wouldn't eat the drawer? That's willpower!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:51 PM
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28: Maybe if you also used it as a sock drawer the snacks would stick around longer.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:51 PM
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I'd keep my keys in my pocket, if I wore pants.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:51 PM
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29 me. Got to fix this remember personal info issue. A pain.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:52 PM
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My drawer has tabasco and espresso pods. It used to have cashews. Soon, it won't have espresso pods, I bet.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:53 PM
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This changed my life. I evangelize for it passionately whenever I hear someone talk about losing their keys. Since I bought one 16 months ago, I can count the number of times I've spent more than five minutes thinking about where my keys are before I leave the house.


Posted by: Tia | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:54 PM
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32: Spike is Miley Cyrus!


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:54 PM
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31: You talk as if there weren't also socks in the same drawer.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:55 PM
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28: I bought them all this morning. The jelly beans are half gone.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:55 PM
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I also have piles of paper on my desk. And on my floor. And on my window sill. And on my filing cabinets. And I have cardboard boxes full of paper.

That would describe me as well . . .


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:56 PM
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Now I'm hungry, and I want Moby's jelly beans. Stupid commenters with snacks in their offices.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:56 PM
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37: Sorry for underestimating you!


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:57 PM
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Admittedly, while I'd eat basically any amount of candy corn if it were within reach, I'm bemused by the idea of buying it.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:57 PM
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42: You think it magically appears in candy jars on other people's desks?


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 1:59 PM
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I actually never see it in person other than as Halloween decor.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 2:00 PM
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Oh this poor, poor student. Such a nice guy. Keeps saying "I think I get it, except for all these extra steps" while rubbing his head like he has a migraine. The test is Friday.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 2:02 PM
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You think it magically appears in candy jars on other people's desks?

Not exactly.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 2:03 PM
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45: don't eat him!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 2:03 PM
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I think most of my organizational strategies are predicated around the idea that I don't have a very good memory for things like "where I left the keys." (On the other hand, I memorise random shit all the time without even trying. Brain, be more useful!) So, everything has to have a home, and everything must go in its home. This works great until my husband moves my keys and I spend 5 minutes looking for them.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 2:05 PM
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47: Right. The migraine is probably kuru.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 2:06 PM
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Most of my organization system is described in 4. However, although I never got Getting Things Done done, one tip that I absorbed was using a filing system with strictly alphabetical hierarchy. There are some informal topic headings, e.g. Medical/Kaiser, Medical/Explanations of Benefits, etc.

Once every couple of months I haul out the label maker, divide up the pile between the recycle bin and a pile of things that should be filed, and then in another few months I find the label maker again and put the things from that pile into folders. It has proven helpful on several surprising occasions that led to me actually finding something in my files.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 2:06 PM
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I used to read Lifehacker daily and every now and then I'd get enthusiastic about one of their ideas. So, like, a few of the power cords in my entertainment center are labeled. I have this growing feeling that I should buy a lot of Command hooks.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 2:09 PM
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Oh god, this student is going to fail so badly and does not seem to realize how woefully many more steps there are.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 2:09 PM
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huh, those are the hooks that Jammies uses everywhere. I didn't realize they were so strong.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 2:11 PM
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I'm right here, heebie.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 2:11 PM
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see, that would have been funnier if it was right after 52.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 2:12 PM
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17: Nah, I just forget shit for my kids all the time. It's pretty painless.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 2:14 PM
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Oh god, he's a math major.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 2:23 PM
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29: Then it would just be a drawer

Sometimes a drawer is just a drawer.


Posted by: Some Pivotal Ptent of Nonrepresentational Art | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 2:26 PM
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Does he know about my amigo Khan Academy?


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 2:29 PM
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il le met sur le cafe.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 2:33 PM
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59: He does. I've told him myself.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 2:40 PM
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I introduced myself in the previous thread and was told to look at the archives. Having taken a brief look, I wonder why you don't want to hide your shame. This used to be a pro war blog!


Posted by: Roger the Cabin Boy | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 2:43 PM
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I've fantasized a few times about just selling everything I own. And then starting again. There'd be much less stuff, but it'd be better stuff. I'd only have two cameras, but they'd be great. I'd have 10% or even 5% of the books, but nicer editions, and everything else would be kindle. I'd have half the records/CDs, but ditto. Far far less shit, and the shit I'd have, would be last-a-lifetime-one-time-purchase-shit.

LB's 8 is me. Although I have an attic now, so stuff is either in one big box of papers/receipts in the attic, or in two drawers next to my desk. Those two drawers are a total mess, and I regularly take ages to find important thing.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 2:46 PM
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Welcome, Roger. You mean me hide my shame?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 2:47 PM
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That would be a pro-war and pro-torture (in a limited, specific sense that I never really understood. But not the bad kind of torture) blog.

The Archives are large and contain multitudes.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 2:47 PM
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to 64 I didn't see you making to pro war case but yeah I'm just curious why the emphasis on looking at archives. Just keeping up with current threads asks a lot of a person and this was clearly a very different blog back when.


Posted by: Roger the Cabin Boy | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 2:54 PM
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66: Because without the archives you will not get most of the inside jokes and oblique references.

Not that the archives help all that much.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 2:56 PM
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Also, to be fair, LizardBreath did direct you to a specific subset of the archives.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 2:56 PM
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For example RTFA is itself a kind of inside joke you might or might not get if you'd read the archives.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 2:58 PM
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Meh. Dive in and eventually you'll absorb the in jokes by osmosis or find yourself curious enough to RTFA.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 2:58 PM
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Not to be confused with RFTS


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 2:58 PM
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Also, I was kidding. There is no homework required before commenting.

(What does it mean: (A) to reset the TiVo? Be brief. (B) to stop masturbating to a celebrity? Be bold. (C) to sex Mutombo? Be brutal.)


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 2:59 PM
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Your answer to 72(C) presumes facts not in evidence.


Posted by: Mutombo | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:01 PM
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72.1 is a lie. None of us are ever kidding.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:01 PM
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72 No idea to any of the above. I've seen references to C but not the others that I recall.


Posted by: Roger the Cabin Boy | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:02 PM
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72:

A) To sex Mutombo
B) To grieve
C) To welcome someone to a meetup


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:04 PM
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That's why it's important to read the entire archives.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:04 PM
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Also, I have no shame or I keep it so skillfully concealed that it has never been detected.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:04 PM
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There are generally more than enough gags I do get to make this a worthwhile site. I don't need to collect them all. My funny bone gets tired as it is.


Posted by: Roger the Cabin Boy | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:06 PM
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It's all for fun, but if you don't read the archives eventually your IP will be banned.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:06 PM
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You at least got a fruit basket, right?


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:07 PM
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In the long run, everyone's IP will be banned.


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79:
Maybe if you'd practiced on the archives your funny bone would have more endurance.

Most of us read the archives a lot as teenagers.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:07 PM
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Benquo kids. He's still a teenager.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:08 PM
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No one listens. I said there wasn't any homework, which means that you didn't have to actually answer the questions. That was an example of the homework that doesn't exist.


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85: To provide an actual example of a thing that doesn't exist is heroic, to put it mildly.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:10 PM
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82: I hate my fucking browser.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:11 PM
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If you want me not to do my homework you need to make it more of a chore.


Posted by: Roger the Cabin Boy | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:11 PM
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Piker. I can not do work even if it's trivially easy. In fact, that describes the work I'm not doing right now.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:12 PM
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If I might make an earnest suggestion, Roger: try reading threads from 2008. If you're looking to delve into some history.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:14 PM
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86: It also comports with the analogy ban.


Posted by: bill | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:14 PM
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90: Was that before it went to shit? Roger, you may have noticed that a recent episode of Breaking Bad was titled "Ozymandias" because it was about how this blog went to shit and all that is left is a vaguely scoldy statue.


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CharleyCarp- I think I'm beginning to catch on. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to goof off.


Posted by: Roger the Cabin Boy | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:19 PM
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all that is left is a vaguely scoldy statue picture of the inside of someone's colon.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:20 PM
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The blog originally went to hell in '05 or so, around the time I showed up, and when Bob disappeared.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:20 PM
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Speaking of the quirkiness of unfogged, I love how teraz got dinged for logical inconsistency after cooking an amazing dinner in the charts thread.


Posted by: torrey pine | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:22 PM
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(The dinner was impressive, too, but in a serious way, not a quirky way.)


Posted by: torrey pine | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:23 PM
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92 -- I think you and I were both posting under different names, for at least part of that time. Anyway, I picked that year not because it had gone, or has since gone, to shit, but because I'd guess that evolution in commenter population and commenters' thinking has changed much less in the ensuing 5 years than in the previous 5 years.

Just like fashion.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:24 PM
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Someone should make a "Best of Unfogged" set of links to go with the fruit basket. My personal version would consist mostly of links to comments by urple.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:24 PM
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Did I know CharleyCarp posted under a different name? If so, I forgot it.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:26 PM
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63: no guitars?

I've done a lot of purging* in my life. Once the number of things I own gets above a certain point, I panic and feel trapped and have to cull. It might be at a lifetime high right now, even inside a sub-1000-sq-ft apartment, and I probably devote 30 minutes each day to thinking about how to gratuitously ditch things that it would be perfectly sane to keep.

It is a little creepy that, much as I prefer small sets of valued possessions, I also prefer small sets of valued friends and worry about keeping track of everyone above that number. Is it normal for those things to be congruent, or do I TREAT OBJECTS like WOMEN?

* consider it made.


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:27 PM
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99 Who may also have been posting under a different name in 2008.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:27 PM
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I remember agreeing with Brad Delong when he flattered you guys with the comment that he would be a smarter person if he read unfogged, but it requires more attention to read than any of my other blogs and there aren't that many hours in the day I could potentially do it. It is barely within the range of my potential to read the current threads. Trying to make a dent in the archives would kill me. I question anyone could do it.


Posted by: Roger the Cabin Boy | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:32 PM
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103 Who may also have been posting under a different name in 2008.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:35 PM
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On Breaking Bad its just about killing missing the end here. I switched from cable to Netflix a few months ago. Don't spoil it for me.


Posted by: Roger the Cabin Boy | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:35 PM
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102: his comments were lamerf then.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:35 PM
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I question anyone could do it.

Fie! I'm sure everybody here has read every comment on all thirteen thousand posts.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:35 PM
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103: When I started I used an opportunistic delving strategy when things came up in the present, and I now have a fairly decent grasp of them. But they were shorter then and you probably have better time management judgment and impulse reading control.


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Re:101

Oh yes. But good electric guitars are cheap. I would love a nice classical. A friend has a Southwell A-series.

http://www.southwellguitars.co.uk/aseries.shtml

But no amount of decluttering gets me that.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:40 PM
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opportunistic delving

IYKWIM


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:41 PM
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RtCB, you should definitely read this classic thread (at least the first 30-odd comments).

Also the Brock egg saga, beginning here, although it's probably better if you have some acquaintance with Brock beforehand.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:41 PM
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I probably devote 30 minutes each day to thinking about how to gratuitously ditch things that it would be perfectly sane to keep.

You DO have time to comment here more often!


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108 You are a braver man than I. I took a look at some of the old stuff. One problem is that basically all the links have spoiled.


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105- If you can borrow a login from someone with a qualifying cable account, you can watch all the most recent episodes.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:51 PM
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22- Did I mention we bought yet another (expensive) bike for carrying kids, etc? The new Xtracycle.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:53 PM
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115: sweet!


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111 good one

105- Hmmm That might be possible thanks


Posted by: Roger the Cabin Boy | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:55 PM
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110: When the weather's hot and sticky your place is messy and icky,
That's no time for delving dicky.
When things are neatly on the shelving,
That's the time for dicky delving!


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At least according to my wife.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 3:57 PM
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118 is excellent.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 4:13 PM
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Yeah, I got sick of juggling 3 bikes every day, which means I'm getting rid of the crappy bike I store outside halfway through the commute; it was $70 for a new helmet, new lights, crappy but working lock, and the bike, so I'll sell just the bike for $40 or $50, I've done some repairs on it.
We've now spent $4k on bikes this year, the logic being that it's much less than another car even though we never planned to get another car. But we do drive the one car much less, only getting gas about every 3 weeks now which I'm concerned might be messing it up since we're not turning over the contents of the tank often enough.
Note that I'm just taking this opportunity to demonstrate the bike thread thing.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 4:20 PM
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121: can you get some money for your work or the government or whatever to cover some of that? I'd think maybe.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 4:27 PM
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109: that is an astonishing instrument. I bought a cheap classical guitar on a whim (the 5th string in berkeley is closing, on the off chance that anyone cares/needs a banjo) and am not sure wherr to start, beyong quietly playing arpeggios while sitting on the median on Adeline St. It sounds surprisingly nice for a random made in China guitar.

112: and given that snapshot of my mental life, I am sure it would be wildly enlightening.


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 4:32 PM
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$240 from work.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 4:34 PM
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122: There's a bike commuter benefit, similar to FSAs, where you can put up up to $20/month in pre-tax dollars for bike commuting expenses. But an employer has to participate; I don't know that there's a way to get this benefit otherwise. And it's pretty picayune to begin with.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 4:36 PM
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Plus if we keep the car under I think 6k miles for the year our insurance gives a rebate. We have been running 10k/year.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 4:37 PM
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re: 123

I can point you at lots of good classical guitar sheet music on-line. And some books, if you are interested? My classical is a $700 guitar, and it's really excellent. My old guitar tutor had a high-end factory rather than luthier made guitar ($1500-2000ish) and other than the superficial appearance of the wood, and better tuners, you'd be struggling to tell the difference. The quality of budget guitar building these days is amazing.

Southwell is about the peak of modern guitar building, I think. Prices are very high, although absurdly cheap compared to good quality orchestral instruments (violins, cellos, etc).


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re: 123

Not that I'm some classical guitar guru, but I have done the exams, so have trawled the net for sheet music in the past.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 4:43 PM
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"Roger the Cabin Boy" is a good pseud, but if you feel like switching, be aware that "Wry Cooter" is still available.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 5:05 PM
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Any recs are welcome! You can email me if you prefer. Thanks...


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 5:07 PM
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Oh hey if we're talking about organizing I just spent the last hour or so reorganizing mp3s on my computer, clearing up disk space and making sure I don't have duplicates. Lord knows all the cloud services have their issues but boy do I not miss manually managing my collection.


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Re: 131

A few years ago I deleted everything and re-ripped from CD with lossless files, good tags, and directory names. Scorched earth, I suppose, but it seemed easier than trying to clean up a mess. Took a week or two, just sticking a fresh CD in every now and again.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 5:41 PM
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132: I'm tempted to do that but a) half of this stuff is mixes I downloaded from various places (in fact, just today I found three or four mixes people here posted in 2010 or so that I still haven't listened to and b) I've already done that once already and the thought of doing it again fills me with dread.

(BTW, I'm going to be in London in a few weeks. Anyone up for a meetup?)


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 5:44 PM
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I was pleased to discover Monoprice the other day -- they have electric guitars for around $80-$120 and I couldn't find a bad review for them online.

ttaM, what are your go-to inexpensive-but-goods-delivering electrics?


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123: I want a banjo. What kind of prices are we talking? Also wouldn't mind a decent concert uke. I bet I can get someone to bring it down for me, or at least hold it until I get up there.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 5:49 PM
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k-sky wants all the stringed instruments. Now!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 5:52 PM
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What are you talking about? I don't want a zither.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 5:55 PM
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Well I can't imagine she wants to be zithed but that doesn't seem relevant.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 5:56 PM
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Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 5:58 PM
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Re: 134.last

Squier, especially the various Classic Vibe models, and Yamaha Pacificas. In the UK there's a brand called Vintage, but not sure if they are sold in the US. There's lots of good guitars. But the better Squier models are genuinely excellent.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 5:59 PM
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139: Do you have inside knowledge? The criticism might be wrong if they reveal in November all the good work they've done, but it doesn't seem misguided based on what's known. The operations director where I am confirmed it's supremely weird for board members to have signing authority.


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135: I doubt that these are prices that would entice you to an out-of-area transaction: I'm sure they have one or two cheap banjos, but there is more of the $3000 new banjo selling for $1800 and that sort of thing. (Which is great if you're in the market for an $1800 banjo, but not so much for the rest of us.)

Are you coming to the Bay Area soon? I might be willing to part with my poor low-end 90s Ibanez for $80-$120, but it's not exactly the guitar of anyone's dreams but mine as a teenager. 24 motherfuckin frets and a Floyd Rose. I think its sentimental value to me probably far outstrips any actual value to ANY other living human being.


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 6:18 PM
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Do you have inside knowledge?

Come on if I said I did would I look like a genius in two months?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 6:23 PM
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113: One problem is that basically all the links have spoiled.

Really? That shouldn't be so. I'd had the impression that once a thread was archived, the URL was permanent.

Classic unfogged threads:

- penis stretching

Okay, I just got hung up looking for that, then finally realized that it has indeed been linked upthread. Cripe.

Many of the memorable developments around here are a tad painful. The SWPL threads, f'instance, which were indeed early 2008.

I'm not sure what RTFA does add at this point.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 6:51 PM
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External links have spoiled which is a general internet problem.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 6:55 PM
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She's only concerned about penis links.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 7:01 PM
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Whatcha mean, external links? Sorry for density, but I haven't experienced this when going to links in the archives. I know that link spoilage is a general internet problem, but I thought it was, um, a function of site administrators not making the relevant pages static. Or something.


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Whatcha mean, external links?

He means all the links to Standpipe's blog. And to apostropher.com.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 7:11 PM
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And that reminds me: who's responsible for curating the blogroll these days? Because that person is doing a lousy job. There are probably people who rely on the blogroll to find other interesting blogs to read. That's how the blogosphere works.


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147: Links to "external" things. Hard to follow some discussions without the linked referents.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 7:15 PM
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149 goes in my special urple collection. Because i'm a jerk.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 7:16 PM
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149 It's only how the 'sphere used to work. In the golden age. When reading other blogs might remotely be worth the trouble.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 7:19 PM
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So long as we are recalling fond memories, the thread regarding the usage of "crone" -- which may have become several threads -- actually changed my opinions somewhat and made me the feminist I am today. I still do think it's a word that is ok to use in some instances though. As usual I cannot be bothered to go and find old threads. Also I have recently changed my opinion on strip clubs.


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Okay, you jokers (I'm looking at you, urple): as soon as you tell me whether a book in hand lacks blindstamp but is possessed of yellow topstain or not, and is with headband, I'll avail myself of knowledge of "external links". Also interested in any $6 jackets. Deckled edges a plus.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 7:22 PM
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Also the frontis. verso should be sans colophon.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 7:27 PM
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Back to the OP, does "does fold things that don't need to be folded" really qualify as "brilliant"?


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 7:28 PM
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I'm ignoring 154 and 155 because I literally find them unintelligible.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 7:30 PM
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Perhaps I was overly sensitive at 148, since I took the reference to Standpipe's blog to mean that the external links business should be obvious, or quickly googleable.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 7:35 PM
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RtCB, I understand it's a bit of a chore, but if you don't read the fucking archives, I'm not sure the blog will be readable. You may pick up bits and pieces here and there, but you won't understand why people keep randomly shouting "Kobe!" (Hint: it's not entirely random.) And you won't understand any of the references to the "Gayatollah." And you may not even be aware that this is definitely not the underwater sex blog.

Believe it or not, this is why you're the blog's first new reader since late 2007. After that, the archives became too long to read.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 7:45 PM
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I took the reference to Standpipe's blog to mean that the external links business should be obvious

That's sort of funny, because that's not what I meant at all but it's completely true.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 7:47 PM
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There's not a lot of "Kobe"-shouting these days, is there? The old folkways are getting forgotten.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 7:49 PM
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Of course there's still a lot of "Kobe"-shouting. We just don't all feel the need to type out the shouting anymore.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 7:51 PM
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We also bore everyone to death with all of this tiresome mise en abyme.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 7:52 PM
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So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 7:55 PM
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New mouseover!


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 7:56 PM
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Or maybe that should just be the new "About" page.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 7:57 PM
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Are you allowed to suggest your own comment for mouseover?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 7:58 PM
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164: If you see a green breast, you probably shouldn't put it in your mouth.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 7:58 PM
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Where we perceive a chain of events, he sees one single catastrophe which keeps piling wreckage upon wreckage and hurls it in front of his feet.


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167: I was wondering if that was taboo. But, to tell you the truth, it's not really my comment--it's actually a Fitzgerald quote.


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Besides, 165 was to 146.


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But, to tell you the truth, it's not really my comment--it's actually a Fitzgerald quote.

New mouseover text! For Standpipe's blog.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 8:01 PM
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Fitzgerald really was kind of a wanker, eh?


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161: The old folkways are getting forgotten.

On Xmas Day when it come 100 I gone front comment and shoutd "Kobe!" that parbly ben the las wyld Kobe on the Unfoggyd any how there hadnt ben none for a long time befor that nor I aint looking to see none agen.


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173: I'LL HANDLE THIS MYSELF, ZELDA.


Posted by: OPINIONATED F SCOTT FITZGERALD | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 8:08 PM
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174. Bravo!


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 8:11 PM
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JP, man, you do us honor.


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Deckled edges a plus.

This nice old 8vo, as new,
Reminded me so much of you
That the edges (they're deckled)
Were soon with sperm speckled—
My way of inscribing it, too.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 8:20 PM
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140: thank you!
142: no, thank you. But thank you for the dissuasion on the banjos.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 8:21 PM
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169 is one of my favorite things ever. Some days I wish I was a little more Walter Benjamin. Or even a little more Laurie Anderson.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 8:23 PM
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That's sweet, neb, particularly the 8vo, scarcely read these days, as it causes too many people to protest that they'd expected a full 8 volumes. Sigh.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 8:30 PM
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Many archives links in this thread.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 8:46 PM
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180: Einst├╝rzende Neubauten's "Die Befindlichkeit des Landes" has an odd pastiche of the angel of history in the middle, and might appeal to someone who likes Laurie Anderson. You never know. It was a great favorite of mine in college. (Early stuff is of course better, but I make no apologies here.)

Benjamin's writing is hard to reverse engineer; I have no idea how I'd go about trying to write like him, but it might still be worth trying.


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 8:54 PM
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I really like "Die Befindlichkeit des Landes".


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 8:56 PM
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If I were a really bad reader I might could convince myself that I'd successfully reverse-engineered all sorts of greats.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 9:49 PM
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I'm not sure what I meant by "hard" and "reverse engineer" and "is." That whole sentence was a train wreck.


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 9:58 PM
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But it is time for me to sleep.


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 9:59 PM
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It seemed to me you expressed a belief that you could reverse-engineer writers, though perhaps not Neb. And I would question that assumption, lk.


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It is a belief that I absolutely do not hold. (I seem to have trouble reverse-engineering my own writing.) I think what I meant was something like "it is difficult for me to imagine (to any degree of accuracy at all) what Benjamin's thought process was like while he was writing." But now I can't find the reductio for the proposition that all other minds are entirely unknowable. Anyway, I am both a terrible writer and a terrible reader, really and truly. But you don't need my authorization to draw that conclusion for yourself, and indeed it's rather insulting of me to offer it.


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 10:12 PM
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I don't think you're a terrible reader or a terrible writer. I've tried to emulate other writers, which is probably why the idea of reverse-engineering writers drew up my hackles (caused hackles?). I have anxiety of influence (and a secret fear that someone will reverse-engineer me if I ever write anything good). And that fear is pompous which would also probably cause me to lash out. Sorry.


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Raised your hackles, that's the cliche! You'll have to take it on faith that I'm in a pretty deep trough of verbal incompetence, relative to the rest of my adult life, so I meant the vitriol but don't see it as a permanent state of affairs, not really. But it's true now, and if I die tomorrow... Apology accepted, anyway. A friend once told me not to try too hard, with writing. It's such fucking hard advice to take.


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 09-23-13 10:48 PM
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In fact I suspect you are all very good writers and I am as always an ass.


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191: I have had absolutely no financial success, or critical success, so I would not be the one to give advice. But I do suspect that you can write good prose without trying very hard.


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I suspect, I am suspicious, I am filled with suspicions.


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174!!

And I might be around for a thing in London. Owing to the explosion of my marriage I seem to be living about 130 miles from the city but will move back to a more sensible distance soon.


Posted by: Nworb Werdna | Link to this comment | 09-24-13 12:14 AM
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Sorry to hear about the exploding marriage, Werdna.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 09-24-13 12:22 AM
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Yes, very sorry to hear about the marriage, werdnA.

I should also be around for a London meetup, unless it's the week beginning 21st when I may be in the US.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 09-24-13 1:15 AM
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re: 142.last

If it's a 90s Ibanez, it might be Japanese [rather than Korean, Indonesian, or Chinese]* in which case it might be a pretty good guitar,** and worth something to someone.

* very good quality budget and mid-priced guitars made in those places now, but in the 90s in Indonesia and China it would only generally be less good budget models. Some better Korean made guitars back then, and now Ibanez make some of their solidly good quality models in Korea. My own electric [not an Ibanez] is Korean-made.
** lots of Ibanezs are fanatastic quality guitars, I just mean 'pretty good' because it's a low-end one.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 09-24-13 1:25 AM
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I've undertaken such a meticulous study on how to pretend to be an organized person that I think it ought to be a course that gets taught.

And when you graduate this course you will actually be an Organised Person. Because organised people are simply those who pretend successfully.


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Also, sorry to hear about your marriage, Werdna.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 09-24-13 3:07 AM
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Thanks all. I could do with tips on dealing with angry daughters, but suspect that patience is the only possible thing.


Posted by: Nworb Werdna | Link to this comment | 09-24-13 3:30 AM
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Count me in for a London thing too. Sorry to read your troubles, Werdna.


Posted by: tierce de lollardie | Link to this comment | 09-24-13 4:45 AM
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Sorry too Werndna.


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Neat in general, but specifically posting for essear who had earlier asked about figuring out where things had been at times in the distant past: A much nicer set of paleogeographic maps than I had found earlier. Website, and an in-depth interview with their creator including a fair number of the maps.
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Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 09-24-13 5:45 AM
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fershlugginer sweetened vanilla yogurt

Vla!


Posted by: Martin Wisse | Link to this comment | 09-24-13 5:45 AM
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Nothing against pudding, I fed Buck and the kids chocolate pudding this weekend. Vanilla pudding shouldn't be lurking in the fridge looking like a respectable ingredient, though.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-24-13 5:49 AM
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Lurking like a Red pretending to be a respectable mainstream mayoral candidate.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 09-24-13 5:52 AM
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This, from the piece linked in the OP, is insane:

As fun as it is to test the limits of your sanity by trying to find the right top for your leftovers container when it's 10 PM and you're exhausted and just want to go to bed, avoid the hassle by storing your tupperware with the lids on

Do not even fuck with different sizes of tupperware. Buy a pack of clear plastic quart containers from a restaurant supply store or Amazon. Boom. Universal lids, easy stacking in the refrigerator, nesting for storage. (Advanced students can buy a matching set of pint containers to have easy-to-pack meal-sized containers.)


Posted by: L. | Link to this comment | 09-24-13 1:50 PM
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Storing tupperware with the lids on is nice because then you can keep track of any residual water that you left in there for future use.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 09-24-13 2:03 PM
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I don't have that problem since I poked small holes in the bottom of all my tupperware.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-24-13 2:07 PM
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My eldest had a friend round a few weeks ago, and they tidied up the Tupperware, claiming it was fun.

I should drag myself out to a London meet up, if only to say "ah, sorry" to Werdna in person.

Also I have things to say about organisation, because I am quite organised at some things, but really, being organised is very boring, so I won't.


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204: Thanks! I'm not sure when I'll have time to think more about it, though. I somehow feel forced to spend some time on normal sane projects instead of, like, my crazy moon project.


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210: No one let Moby near their contraception.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-24-13 2:37 PM
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I have a patch kit for an inflatable mattress that should clear up any problems.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-24-13 2:56 PM
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Patching the inflatable mattress sounds like just another way to get into trouble.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-24-13 3:01 PM
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If the inflatable mattress gets a hole, then I need the patch kit back.


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Ribbed for her unease.


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