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Congratulations!


Posted by: beamish | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 12:02 PM
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I'm doing my best not to take this as a back-handed compliment.

See, that kind of thinking right there is why you're such a miserable cuss.


Posted by: OPINIONATED STANLEY'S MOM | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 12:15 PM
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Aw, shucks, Ma'.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 12:28 PM
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So what's new, Stanners?


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 12:30 PM
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High on the dope?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 12:31 PM
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4: Yeah, nothing specific. She might have been projecting, since I had just showed her how to put songs on her newfangled iPod Touch. Hey, come to think of it, maybe Moby can show her how to use that double-commenting feature his iPod has.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 12:36 PM
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Moms always (okay, some moms, some times) say things like that that throw you for a loop. It's pretty cool.

Or am I reading this wrong?


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 12:37 PM
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Speaking of parents' concern for their children, and SF stories, this one is fantastic: Second Person, Present Tense. The setup is that a teenager has overdosed on a drug that turns you into a philosophical-thought-experiment-style zombie, and now her parents want her to reidentify with the self she felt herself to be before.


Posted by: x. trapnel | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 12:48 PM
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Or am I reading this wrong?

No, I think you pretty much got it.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 1:09 PM
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6: It requires an iPod, an iffy WiFi, and lack of patience.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 1:37 PM
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Speaking as a mom... Moms sometimes have a tendency to worry to an unhealthy degree about the emotional wellbeing of their offspring and thereby spend an excess of time scrutinize said offspring for indications of joy or distress. When I was a teenager, my mom annoyed the crap out of me by constantly asking why I seemed depressed. (The answer to which, to a significant degree, was "because my mother is driving me crazy with her projections of depression onto me.") Now, much to my dismay, I catch myself asking just a bit too often if Rory is "okay."

In sum, just be glad your mom sees you as happy and appreciate the comfort and joy that brings her.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 2:00 PM
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The story linked in 8 is really lovely, thanks!


Posted by: Rah | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 2:08 PM
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Re: the OP: I'm inclined to suspect that the reason your Mom's comment surprised you is that you weren't actually monitoring your internal state, but rather being present in the moment. Very likely a good thing, IME.


Posted by: Rah | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 2:12 PM
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OT: Here's an impromptu Ask the Mineshaft from a friend of mine. Suppose you had just discovered that you have, like, thirty Facebook friends in common with S/ook-Y/in L/ee. (Some of whom are even, like, actual real-life friends.) If you were tasked to go about converting this situation into Totally Having Sex With S/ook-Y/in L/ee, in a way that didn't either alert the common friends in question to the gambit underway and also didn't come across as Internet stalking, how would you do it?


Posted by: Jefferson Lee Wainwright | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 2:35 PM
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Oh, that link doesn't work. But those of you who know who S/ook-Y/in L/ee is will know why my friend is asking this question.


Posted by: Jefferson Lee Wainwright | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 2:39 PM
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Moms sometimes have a tendency to worry to an unhealthy degree about the emotional wellbeing of their offspring....

Sometimes.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 2:41 PM
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Short Bus II, Longer and Harder ?


Posted by: Uncle Bob | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 2:46 PM
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17: With any luck.


Posted by: Jefferson Lee Wainwright | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 2:51 PM
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14: It's my impression that some actors/models/entertainers will Facebook friend anybody. That many common connections might not mean anything.


Posted by: Todd | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 2:55 PM
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+ /bloggers


Posted by: Todd | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 2:56 PM
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19: Yes, but we're talking S/ook-Y/in here. She's Different. She's not like those other phonies.


Posted by: Jefferson Lee Wainwright | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 2:58 PM
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(Or so thinks my, ummm, friend.)


Posted by: Jefferson Lee Wainwright | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 2:58 PM
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19: Its true. Some celebrities have pages where you "like" them to get them in your twitter feed. Others have it said up so you can "friend" them. Right now I "like" Lady Gaga and am "friends" with Ayun Halliday. But neither would know me from Adam.

Why not try friending her and then sending lots of gushing fanboyish messages? It probably won't work, but its kinda fun in itself.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 3:02 PM
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Setting the hopefully-faux psychosis of 21 aside for a moment, I should probably add that given the size of the Canadian arts community, some of the friends-in-common likely (in at least three cases certainly) do actually know S/ook-Y/in, if not necessarily well. Though it involves a celebrity the situation is probably, or at least possibly, closer to beind friend-of-a-friend.


Posted by: Jefferson Lee Wainwright | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 3:09 PM
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I should probably add that given the size of the Canadian arts community....

And its low-hanging fruit.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 3:11 PM
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25: You don't understand! It's cold! There was shrinkage!


Posted by: Jefferson Lee Wainwright | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 3:17 PM
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I've had the opposite thing happen, where a fairly well-known Brit jazz musician friended me. Presumably because I'd bought one of his CDs from his own label, and I assume he was friending some people who'd ordered from him. When I added a quick comment back he did indeed reply and we got into a conversation re: mutal acquaintances [someone I played with once played in a band he once played in, etc].


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 3:49 PM
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Surely it's mostly unnecessary to point out that Jefferson's friend is being creepy?


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 5:24 PM
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28: I'd think.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 5:26 PM
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27: did you do him? It's germane.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 5:27 PM
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Isn't this just the well-known thing called a blog-crush/celebrity crush/just plain crush? What should you do to advance your chances? Well, um, seriously?


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 5:40 PM
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I once asked out a local Austin celebrity - J/ohn E/rler from Mr. Sinus Theatre. He said yes and we swapped info, and it never came to pass in a way that made me feel mildly dissed.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 6:07 PM
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Another great zombie short story


Posted by: F | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 6:08 PM
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I did not actually have a crush on him, although I generally like comedians. I just bumped into him around town more than once in quick succession and thought it might be fun to go out on a date with him.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 6:09 PM
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I met G/rant Ac/hatz's lawyer, and told him to let me know if my true love is ever "on the market."


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 6:21 PM
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Having now read the story in 8, which is indeed great, there are some remarkable similarities to the story I linked.


Posted by: F | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 6:35 PM
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31 Isn't this just the well-known thing called a blog-crush/celebrity crush/just plain crush?

Doesn't it seem creepier somehow since Jefferson('s friend) has seen video of her having sex? Or maybe my creepometer is miscalibrated.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 6:41 PM
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29 to 37.1


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 6:46 PM
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37: Oh. I didn't look up who S/ook-Y/in L/ee was.


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Doesn't it seem creepier somehow since Jefferson('s friend) has seen video of her having sex?

Film, surely?


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 7:01 PM
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The story in 8 is good.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 7:06 PM
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40: It is even creepier if he filmed her having sex.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 7:08 PM
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Am I alone in thinking this makes it less creepy rather than more? It he/she wanted a cheap thrill, well, the movie's out there. Maybe I'm being too charitable, but if it's just a crush or a curiosity thing, and no real stalking involved, then no harm done.


Posted by: F | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 7:08 PM
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You guys are the best.


Posted by: Pauly Shore | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 7:08 PM
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What am I missing about this celebrity that everyone else seems to know? That she has sex in a movie?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 7:12 PM
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45: Non-simulated sex in Short Bus.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 7:15 PM
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45: Yes, of the regular (not simulated) kind. I had to google it.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 7:15 PM
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45: you haven't heard of Shortbus?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 7:16 PM
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Pwned, pwned, pwned-y pwned.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 7:16 PM
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And I get pwned by people who just know this stuff.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 7:16 PM
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Well, I've heard of it now.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 7:17 PM
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Is it good? The wikipedia page makes me think that I'd get bored. But maybe that's because it's a movie.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 7:19 PM
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Sifu has posters.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 7:19 PM
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52: I've heard it's kind of terrible, but that could be false. There's a guy who sucks his own dick in it, so that's something.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 7:21 PM
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Is it something?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 7:23 PM
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It's some kind of a thing.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 7:25 PM
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52: ogged liked at least part of it...


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 7:25 PM
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shanticarson.com no longer exists. Too much clicking?


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 7:29 PM
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Not enough satisfaction.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 7:31 PM
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I had a lot to say in that thread. I guess I have heard of Shortbus.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 7:31 PM
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Relatedly, no one can be 100% fabulous and also publish their website with iWeb.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 7:31 PM
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What about a fabulous iSpider?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 7:32 PM
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That's why you have iRobots.txt


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 7:33 PM
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Too much clicking?

I have no idea, but probably.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 7:35 PM
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But in fact, that made no sense. Never mind.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 7:36 PM
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I'm fabulously sick of grading.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 7:41 PM
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Entertain me!


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 7:47 PM
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Look!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 7:48 PM
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Kay, I'm ready!


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 7:49 PM
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Who's Kay?


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 7:50 PM
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The movie is flawed and amateurish, but certainly not terrible. Worth watching if it shows up unless you have a problem with seeing explicit sex or explicit sex of a type you're not into (there's something for almost everyone to be not into).


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 7:50 PM
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It's only 101 minutes long, so it passes my first test of watchable movies.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 7:53 PM
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In sum, just be glad your mom sees you as happy and appreciate the comfort and joy that brings her.

I kind of disagree, taken with the rest of your comment I guess. Drives me mad when my folks seem too preoccupied with whether I'm happy. Makes me feel like I need to perform happiness, which I am very bad at. I'm not saying this about parents of young kids, but parents of adults should develop some negative capability around their offspring's happiness, for everyone's sake.

re 35, didn't Grant Achatz have his tongue removed or something? I'm not sure what the opposite utterance to "Laydeez..." meant to connote sexual disincentive is.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 7:56 PM
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From an imdb review of Shortbus:

It's nothing heartbreaking or particularly inspiring, but how much can we really expect from a film that has an entire scene dedicated to the National Anthem being sung into an anal orifice.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 7:59 PM
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Fuck this student:

That for every integer c to be attainable by some linear combination of fixed integers a and b, we consider the constraints upon a and b. Their smallest possible difference of integral scalar multiplication must be at most equal to 1. Should this value be, say, some positive integer greater than 1, say n, then only the integers nZ could be attained through said linear combination.

I'm so irritated to wade through this bullshit and determine if it's right.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 7:59 PM
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opposite utterance to "Laydeez..."

Laydon'ts?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:02 PM
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I've heard it's kind of terrible, but that could be false. There's a guy who sucks his own dick in it, so that's something.

It is kind of terrible, and it turns out seeing autofellatio doesn't confer the ability, so even that is of fleeting interest.

I say it's terrible as a huge Hed-head. I really wanted to like it. One thing that bugged me about it was that it had a gay variant on the magical negro, to wit: the magical [transperson/drag queen] in the form of Ju/stin B/ond. Also, for a movie about sexual inclusivity, the people in it are all standard-issue hot, except like they pan past a conspicuously fat person in an orgy scene.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:03 PM
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73 Apparently chemo and minor surgery allowed him to escape that fate. But does one really want somebody with a preternaturally sensitive tongue and obsession with taste? I can just see them pausing and getting lost in the contemplation of the various taste elements and how one could recreate them with the right ingredients and the magic of molecular cooking techniques.


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:04 PM
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75: let's just say wrong and be done with it.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:06 PM
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I went with "Too garbled to read."


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:07 PM
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I'm getting more and more furious at this punk. They turned in portfolios of proofs, so I'm reading proof after proof in the same pretentious hyperbabble voice. JUST SPIT IT OUT, SON.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:10 PM
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Apparently chemo and minor surgery allowed him to escape that fate.

THLACKER!


Posted by: OPINIONATED ELLEN JAMESIAN | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:12 PM
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I liked Shortbus, but then I would. Also, I found an old friend who had disappeared off the face of the earth for all anybody knew, because there he was playing a drum in the marching band at the end of the movie.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:18 PM
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I'm finding it really hard to tell if 75 means anything. I mean, it kind of sounds like he's after the division algorithm or something like it, but jesus. Is this a native English speaker?


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:21 PM
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He is indeed a native English speaker, as well as being about ten times too pleased with his own intelligence. Did you know his IQ is 175?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:22 PM
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Every proof about integers has a unique prime bullshitization.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:22 PM
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Did you know his IQ is 175?

He should put that on business cards, rather than just relying on word of mouth.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:24 PM
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85: Tell him that it is very clever of him to report it in base 8.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:25 PM
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He should also put "Don't hire me because I'm a giant pain in the ass" on his business cards.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:25 PM
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Removing some adjectives, we get, "Their [...] difference [...] of multiplication must be at most equal to one." Their difference of multiplication!


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:26 PM
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I'm pretty sure "IQ: 175" would communicate that just fine.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:27 PM
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Explain that his considerable talents are wasted in a field as hopelessly political as pure math and send him somewhere else, maybe Chem. E., just as you would underperforming admin staff.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:27 PM
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Theorem: every person who feels the need to know, and especially to tell others, his (it's usually "his") IQ is actually an idiot.

Proof: the proof is by exhaustion.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:30 PM
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Not to brag, but he's pretty sure I have a pretty high IQ, too. Also did you know he's an autodidact?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:31 PM
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Did he learn that word all by himself?


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:34 PM
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94,95

This has always been one of the more irritating bits on being a professor. Psst. If I'm really as smart as you say I am, I'm smart enough to know you're just kissing my ass.


Posted by: F | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:34 PM
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It doesn't have much to do with intelligence, but piloting an autodidactyl takes plenty of skill.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:36 PM
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To his credit, professors can be amazingly dumb.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:36 PM
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I feel like Standpipe checks in just often enough that he/she* doesn't get the exclamation points of long absence. So: Standpipe!!

*what, I know his/her gender but Parsimon ze'd him/her so I'm wondering if he/she prefers to remain agendrous. Which isn't a word.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:37 PM
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'Which' is too a word.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:38 PM
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Sucked in against my will, 95 gets it right. How old is this kid? I mean, it's fine and everything to be proud and struggling, but he seems pretty young. Which is fine.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:40 PM
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75 says that if every integer can be written as a linear combination of a and b, then there must be some linear combination of a and b equal to 1.

Basically if the smallest positive integer that can be written as a linear combination of a and b is n, then only multiples of n can be written as linear combinations of a and b.

Pretty trivial.


Posted by: autodidact | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:41 PM
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An interger is the kind of number with no decimal point?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:42 PM
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but he seems pretty young.

He's in his late 20s.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:43 PM
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99.last: I have a personal sense of Standpipe as male, but I don't have that confirmed.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:43 PM
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Pretty trivial.

Right...except that's not really what he was being asked to prove.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:43 PM
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Autodidactic asphyxiation kills a few aspiring mathematicians every year.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:44 PM
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Have you ever told a self-centered math student that there is no 'i' in number. Assuming a rational number.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:46 PM
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Seeing autodidacticism does not confer the ability.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:46 PM
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He was trying to prove that if a and b are relatively prime, then any integer can be written as a linear combination of a and b.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:46 PM
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re 35, didn't Grant Achatz have his tongue removed or something

No. That's what the doctors initially recommended, and he told the hellz no and push for less career-upfucking treatment.

73.1: I don't disagree -- I just figure hovercraft parents are less hovery when they think you are happy.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:47 PM
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109: Calvinist!


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:48 PM
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Stanley's mom must think he is having a better spring fall than Dooley Womack.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:48 PM
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110 - Isn't that a trivial extension of Euclid's algorithm? I'm pretty sure you can do a four-step proof by contradiction using the pigeonhole principle, too.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:53 PM
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Speaking of fall, I have apparently reached the stage of my life where simply raking the leaves in the yard is an aerobic workout.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:55 PM
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Speaking of fall, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:57 PM
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Oooh! ooh! Here's a good one!

"Prove that if m is congruent to n, mod a, and t is congruent to s, mod a, then (m+t) is congruent to (n+s), mod a."

We can use a classic demonstration of the fact that complex numbers with like modula are additive under angular addition to show that two integers, m and n, with equivalent modula are additive.

He does go on for a little longer. It's not like that is a conclusive proof.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:58 PM
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Isn't that a trivial extension of Euclid's algorithm?

Yup.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 8:59 PM
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Am I going to hell for airing my students' work online? I've google-proofed his words slightly.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 9:02 PM
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Vigorous raking, at least.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 9:02 PM
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It's not like that is a conclusive proof.

It's totally incoherent, isn't it? It looks to me like he confused the word "modulo" with the "modulus" of a complex number....


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 9:04 PM
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Good call. I bet that's what he did.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 9:05 PM
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This isn't a test, btw. He had plenty of time to look up all the symbols and vocabulary words.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 9:06 PM
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I feel mildly bad. Guess I'll go to bed now.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 9:10 PM
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119: Am I going to hell for airing my students' work online?

No, you're going to hell for not accepting Jesus Christ as your personal saviour.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 9:11 PM
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And gluttony.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 9:17 PM
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Did he learn that word all by himself?

Well, he certainly didn't learn it from any SCHOOL!


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 9:25 PM
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I accept gluttony as my personal savior. And Jesus Christ. My personal Jesus Christ.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 9:27 PM
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So apparently the way to get me to comment is to talk about grading math tests.

Re 75: 102 has it right, I think. To the extent this guy is proving anything, he's proving the converse of the correct statement.


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||Black currant juice and Bitter Lemon. Recommended>|


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 10:03 PM
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It occurs to me that, by definition, an IQ of 175 is 5 sigma on the high side, which is ~ 1 in a million, so there should be only a few hundred people in the country with such a high IQ. What are the odds one of them would be heebie's student? (Insert obligatory disclaimer about how IQ is stupid and I don't take this number to mean anything anyway, etc.)


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 10:51 PM
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Get a rubber stamp that says "You are wasting my time"?


Posted by: YK | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 10:51 PM
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||Well, I just had the whole blue moon thing clarified for me. 50 years of mistaken usage. How does one go on?|>


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 11:08 PM
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133: Whoa. I always thought it was the second full moon in a month. Although it kind of seems like everyone does, so can't we shout "descriptivism!" and keep on going?


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 11-21-10 11:11 PM
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Well, I just had the whole blue moon thing clarified for me. 50 years of mistaken usage. How does one go on?

You've been using blue curacao instead of Creme Yvette, right? Don't be so hard on yourself! Most bars make the same mistake, if they even make a blue moon at all!


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re: 131

Some tests, especially the online ones, seem to score high. I'd bet the number who can get those sorts of scores on some of the more widely distributed tests is a fair bit higher than 1 in a million.

By contrast, there was a big TV driven 'test the nation' thing on the BBC about 8 years ago, which was a live timed IQ test done by millions. The way they'd marked that, even if you'd gotten 100% I don't think it was possible to score any higher than 140-ish.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 12:34 AM
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The story in 8 is good.

Yes. I would go so far as to call it awesome. I wonder how many people would actually choose to induce a zombie-overdose if such a drug existed. A fairly high percentage of clinical-depressives, I imagine. I probably would.

F's story in 33 was also good, but I liked the other one more.


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My sainted mother said to me yesterday, "I can see happiness in your eyes for the first time in a long time."

Yep, she said the same thing to me this morning.

(Seriously, 137 comments and no one went for this?)


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133, 134: This article in Sky & Telescope gives the history of the shifted usage--it was an article in that magazine that started it going with the new definition. I had no idea either.


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It looks as if we are in the end stages of the DE's battle with multiple MIs, V-Fib, CPR, assist pumps, and now PVCs. The docs do not expect her to make it unless there's a major miracle just around the corner.

I don't quite know why I'm mentioning this except that she liked many of you, enjoyed many of the interchanges, and thought leaving a party without thanking the hosts was somewhat impolite.

(And yes, I'm coping and so is her son. He's a great kid and I've had experience with this. It's never fun, but it's survivable.)

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Posted by: Biohazard | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 5:24 AM
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140. Fuck, I'm so sorry. Give her my best if it seems appropriate.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 5:28 AM
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I'm so irritated to wade through this bullshit and determine if it's right.

I feel that way about everything my students write. Which is why I'm 5 weeks late with grading!!!


Posted by: spaz | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 5:31 AM
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"Man, you were looking like total dogshit for a while there."

Uh oh, I spy another unfogger retirement on the horizon...


Posted by: spaz | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 5:32 AM
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Many of us liked her too. Sorry she has to leave early. Best to all.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 5:33 AM
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Oh no. I'm so very sorry.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 5:33 AM
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I am sorry to hear about DE. I enjoyed her comments here.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 5:35 AM
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Oh shit, that is so crappy, Biohazard. I've missed DE and knew that she was waiting for Medicare to kick in. I thought that she'd gotten over the hump.

As chris y said, please give the best wishes of the Mineshaft, if that seems appropriate.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 5:56 AM
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All very good thoughts to DE. I've always liked her tartness. Take care, Biohazard and family. xo


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 5:57 AM
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Oh no, I'm so sorry to hear about DE. Biohazard, thank you for updating us. Please give her love from us.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 6:04 AM
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Took me a bit to figure out that DE was short for the old domineditrix. I really enjoyed her when I posted here under a different handle.

May her soul braise* in peace.

*too bad about the comment links, guess you gotta page search if you care...


Posted by: spaz | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 6:14 AM
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I'm so sorry, Biohazard. You're all in my thoughts.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 6:44 AM
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We will miss DE a lot here. Take care of yourself Biohazard.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 6:50 AM
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Oh, ugh. So sorry; trying to think warm & supportive thoughts.


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 6:53 AM
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Ack, I'm so very sorry to hear that. You'll all be in my thoughts.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 7:05 AM
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It only seems appropriate for the male commenters to do a little something to provide comfort from afar.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 7:22 AM
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Sorry, Biohazard. Take care of yourself.


Posted by: Idealist | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 7:25 AM
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Oh, so sorry to hear about DE. Her comments were great and I'll miss her.


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 7:27 AM
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Hey, besides seeing her non-simulated sex in shortbus, I knew nothing about S/ook-Y/in L/ee.

She gets my vote to play Eunice Park in the film of Super Sad True Love Story. She'd be perfect.


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I knew nothing about S/ook-Y/in L/ee.

Here she is fronting her band, Slan. And again.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 7:36 AM
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Oh, Biohazard, I'm sorry to hear that. I really enjoyed her commenting.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 7:59 AM
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Biohazard, I'm very sorry to hear that. Best wishes to you and DE.


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 8:00 AM
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I'm so sorry about Domineditrix; she was great fun to have around when she was commenting. Give her my best wishes for her comfort and wellbeing, and take care of yourself -- if there's any way blogcommenting can be helpful for you, we're always here.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 8:11 AM
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So sorry, Biohazard. Wishing strength and peace to you and Domineditrix.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 8:16 AM
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Very sorry to hear this, Biohazard. Best wishes to you and DE.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 8:29 AM
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So sorry. I wasn't a commenter back when she was here all the time, but I greatly enjoyed her comments as an assiduous lurker. She's always seemed like a very fun person.


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 8:36 AM
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Biohazard, I'm very sorry. Thank you for letting us know. Tell DE the unfogged crew are thinking of her, if you can and if you think it will please her.


Posted by: Bitchphd | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 8:47 AM
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Oh my goodness -- so very sorry, Biohazard.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 8:51 AM
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So sorry, Biohazard. I was quite fond of her. Best to you both.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 9:02 AM
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shit! that's horrible, biohazard. she was always such a witty, tart, hilarious person, judging by her comments. wishing you and her son all the best and we'll all be thinking of you.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 9:14 AM
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My condolences, Biohazard.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 9:49 AM
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Thanks so much for letting us know, Biohazard. I really loved DE's stories. Her personality here was such a nice blend of generous, frank, worldly, disarming and wry.

Sending supportive and peaceful thoughts to you, to her, and "The Kid." Hospital time is a difficult experience under the best of circumstances -- I hope it is as easy as possible given the situation.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 9:52 AM
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Condolences, bio. Better place for DE, I'm sure.


Posted by: Tasseled Loafered Leech | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 10:10 AM
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I also think fondly of both of you, and am very sorry to hear that.

Judging by your comments here, you're both strong and tough, but I wish both of you the ability to stay (mostly) sane in a very difficult circumstance.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 10:13 AM
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I'm so sorry to hear this news. I wish the best for all involved.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 10:29 AM
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Witt says what I was trying to write, only better. My thoughts are with you, Biohazard.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 10:51 AM
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Sorry.


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 10:52 AM
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I'm so sorry to hear that, Biohazard. My thoughts are with you and DE.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 10:58 AM
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Biohazard, my condolences. DE was a pleasure to know here and to meet in person -- please let us know if there is a gathering in L.A. where you'd like company. She gave my non-Unfogged friend L. great advice and friendship too, and I'll let her know.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 11:07 AM
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140: So very sorry Biohazard. My love and solidarity to all of you.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 11:14 AM
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This is "L." from k-sky's post. I'm so sorry to hear this terrible news. Neith was very kind to me, and talking life and fiction with her was an absolute pleasure. You're all in my thoughts.


Posted by: LB | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 11:20 AM
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please let us know if there is a gathering in L.A. where you'd like company

If Halford was serious about his party we could raise a glass or two in her honor.


Posted by: Tasseled Loafered Leech | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 11:24 AM
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Biohazard, wishing you, DE, The Kid, and all of your family and loved ones strength and peace in this trying time. DE was well loved here. You are all in my thoughts.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 12:02 PM
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Thanks to all of you. The last status was "a little worse than this morning" and the docs want to meet with me and her son at 2:30pm "to go over options".

Somehow, I don't think they're going to show us the pony the staff had decided to give her.

So. More later here and in the emails, when I know something more definite.

Thanks again.


Posted by: Biohazard | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 12:04 PM
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Very sad news, Biohazard. Tremendously sorry.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 12:17 PM
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So sorry, Biohazard. You all are in my thoughts.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 12:19 PM
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My best to the Offspring.


Posted by: BG | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 12:19 PM
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I am so sorry. I loved DE's stories and personality. Thinking of you all, Biohazard.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 12:29 PM
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I'm so, so sorry to hear this, Biohazard. My thoughts are with you all.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 12:31 PM
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Oh no. How sad for those of us who will be without her words. I am glad she lived her life so very well, despite the fucked-upness she was subjected to. She told some great stories.

I am sorry for your grief, Biohazard and The Kid. I wish you solace.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 12:40 PM
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I'm really sorry to hear this, Biohazard. I'll be thinking of your family and hoping for a peaceful, comfortable passing for DE.


Posted by: Magpie | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 12:59 PM
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I'm so sorry, Biohazard. When I started lurking here, the DE was one of the first commenters to emerge as a distinct person, and as someone I wanted to know. We never got to interact, but I'll miss her voice.


Posted by: Gabardine Bathyscaphe | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 1:00 PM
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I'm so sorry; I too enjoyed DE's presence back in my lurking days. Condolences to Biohazard and kid.


Posted by: persistently visible | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 1:06 PM
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Very sad news. You're all in my thoughts, DE, Biohazard, and "Kid".


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 1:11 PM
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Oh no. I always very much enjoyed DE's comments here and am so glad that I got to meet her in person as well. She, and you, Biohazard, are in my thoughts and prayers.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 1:18 PM
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Oh this sucks. Domineditrix was such a great presence here. You and she and the Offspring are in my thougths. (I always loved the joke that she was neb's mther. My fu can't find it though.)


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 1:27 PM
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To 181, the party is going forward, on January 7. We will certainly honor DE then, whatever happens, and it would be wonderful if BH and The Kid would join in, if they feel up to it.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 1:28 PM
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I'm so sorry to hear about that and wish the best for her, her son, and Biohazard.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 1:43 PM
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Biohazard, Rah and I will be thinking about all of you. Please pass along our fondness and appreciation for you both.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 1:52 PM
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Biohazard, I'm so sorry to hear this. Add me to the not-short list of unfogged people thinking about you, DE, and the Offspring today.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 2:01 PM
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Sorry to hear about this. Best wishes to everyone involved.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 2:06 PM
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Thank you for letting us know, Bio. I'm sorry to hear this.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 2:10 PM
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My thoughts and prayers are with DE and B and her son. I am very sorry.


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 2:13 PM
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Send her my best, Biohazard. Maybe you could also give her a fruit basket.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 2:27 PM
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Oh no, I had no idea things were so bad. I, too, have always enjoyed DE's comments and had missed her presence here.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 2:28 PM
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I appreciated the unique voice in the comments. Thoughts are with you folks.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 2:31 PM
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I am so sorry to hear this. Thanks for letting us know, Biohazard.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 2:47 PM
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Oh, damn. So very sorry to hear it, Biohazard. I've missed her and her razor-sharpness for years, never realizing where she'd gotten off to. She'll be much missed. Words fail me, other than to say you have my deepest condolences.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 2:55 PM
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So sorry. So sad.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 3:11 PM
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We are pulling the metaphorical plug in about 15 minutes. I will not be live blogging it. Thanks again. More whenever.


Posted by: biohazard | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 4:21 PM
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That's awful, Biohazard. Very sorry to hear it.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 4:38 PM
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DE = DominEditrix? Wow, that's shitty. Sorry to hear it.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 4:55 PM
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Again, I'm so so sorry.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 4:56 PM
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It feels tacky to go back to celebrity starfucker land given the appearance the Grim Reaper has put in on the thread, but for 28, 37 and 46, I just don't want to feel like I've misrepresented the situation. The stuff about "totally having sex" with said personage is mostly tongue-in-cheek; it was more a question of whether there's a way to make a connection without appearing stalker-ish. The sex will take care of itself, or not. And Shortbus isn't the real link. He's a fanboy from her MuchMusic VJ days.

So, that's that. I, too, am very sorry to hear about DE. Take care, Biohazard...


Posted by: Jefferson Lee Wainwright | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 5:03 PM
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Much love to you all, Biohazard.


Posted by: di kotimy | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 5:11 PM
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So sorry.


Posted by: Mr. Blandings | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 5:34 PM
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Oh no!

A loss to the world and internet.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 5:35 PM
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Damn, what awful news. So sorry. Here's hoping you all pull through okay.


Posted by: briefly delurking | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 5:53 PM
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I'm sorry we didn't do the wedding in the nude.

I'm sorry nosflow never got laid.

I'm glad she taught her son to wave his arms about near the dildos.

I'm optimistic she got the sex mansion.

I'm not going to mock her hats.

Nosflow totally missed out.

I am confident McQueen will do what she suggested.

And happy turkey day.

Oh well. This is no good. I only knew her as a commenter, but what a commenter.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 6:08 PM
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A great commenter here, no question. My condolences, for whatever they are worth.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 7:07 PM
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Most sincere condolences.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 7:13 PM
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Sorry to hear it Biohazard; be well.


Posted by: Turid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 7:17 PM
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Aw. Damn. She was one of my favorite people.

max
['My condolences.']


Posted by: max | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 7:24 PM
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Thanks Sifu, the perfect unfogged comment for her.


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 7:31 PM
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My condolences to you and her family. I was really charmed by her voice during my lurking days. It is an awful thing to go through (I've been there too), but good that you were there for her during this time.


Posted by: Jimmy Pongo | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 7:34 PM
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Yes, bravo, Sifu. That was great.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 7:43 PM
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223: Thanks, Sifu. That's a good sampling.

As usual in a hospital, things started later than scheduled.

The speed of the decline after the support systems were turned off was startlingly rapid. Her blood pressure and heart rate started to decline within seconds and it was all over in under a half-hour at 5:16pm PST.

Her son is teary-eyed but holding up and I'm metering the emotions in tolerable doses.

This happened much too soon, but we did have 15 great years together. I shall cherish those instead of crying over the ones we didn't have.

Thanks again.


Posted by: Biohazard | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 9:32 PM
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My condolences, Biohazard. I'm raising a glass of Scotch in her honor.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 11-22-10 9:57 PM
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Condolences, BH. You take care of yourselves.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 11-23-10 12:59 AM
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"Tell DE the unfogged crew are thinking of her, if you can and if you think it will please her."

:-(


Posted by: Gary Farber | Link to this comment | 11-23-10 1:33 AM
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Was there anyone besides me who know her both from her sf fan days, and as a blog commenter?

I'm trying to think of someone, but failing, other than Avedon. I'm probably forgetting someone obvious, in which case y'all or someone can and will remind me.

But everyone else I can think of who was a mutual friend either knew her as one, or the other; there's very little overlap between people active in the sf community in the early Seventies, and blogging in the oughts and tens.

Anyone?

Did anyone here besides Biohazard and me ever meet Asenath? Were there, like, Unfogged gatherings she went to, or anything?


Posted by: Gary Farber | Link to this comment | 11-23-10 1:43 AM
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Oh gosh, missed all this yesterday. So sorry to hear this - DominEditrix always had something interesting to say, and I was always loved reading the way she talked about her son. My thoughts are with you, Biohazard and Offspring.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 11-23-10 3:06 AM
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What sad news to have missed. I'm so sorry, Biohazard.


Posted by: emdash | Link to this comment | 11-23-10 4:45 AM
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Condolences, BH.


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This is mildly weirding me out: it's seeming as if I may be the only person who knew both Asenath Hammond-Sternbach and DominEditrix.

Biohazard, of course, knew Asenath Hammond, as did everyone who knew her before and after Rick, but I have no idea when HWP and Asenath got together, other than that they've been partners for fifteen years.

If he was around New York Fandom, Fanoclasts, etc., in the early Seventies, or sf fandom in the Eighties, well, if it's meant for me to find out, I will, sooner or later. Most of us who knew her in the Seventies are exchanging messages and threads via email and FB public and private.

Avedon Carol may have known DominEdititrx, but now that I've thought more, I'm not remotely sure of that, and won't know until she gets back to my email.

A purely selfish reaction, but if there's anywhere out there who knew Asenath from the Seventies, and knew DominEditrix, rather than just one or the other, I'd ask you to email me or let me know, please.

I've asked from the other end, too, but: surprise me, someone, please.

And thanks for the private email from the friend who sent it in response to my comment here.

My condolences to all of you who knew DominEditrix. She was a great Asenath, too.


Posted by: Gary Farber | Link to this comment | 11-23-10 10:58 AM
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If you read up in the thread, Gary, you'll see that numerous people had met her in various ways through Unfogged. No idea about the 70s, though.

(If this sounds snotty, not meant that way - you just seem genuinely distressed and the answer is lurking right here.)


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 11-23-10 11:06 AM
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I haven't been around for a while, but Natilo told me last night. I'm so sorry. I can't say much more than that I am a stranger on the internet and I liked reading her comments.


Posted by: Frowner | Link to this comment | 11-23-10 11:17 AM
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Damn, I'm just seeing this.

I was lucky and met DE a year ago when she was in town. We rode around in my patrol car and went to lunch at Gourmandise.

DE's handle here had me picturing someone physically imposing and instead walks out this cheery little woman with fluffy hair. Her one stipulation for lunch was "no Hungarian food". She was charming and funny and I had a great time at lunch.

I'm sad to hear she's gone. Best wishes Biohazard.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 11-23-10 11:40 AM
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DE always struck me as a woman with fortitude.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 11-23-10 11:52 AM
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So very sorry to hear of her death.
I met her at the WorldCon in 1976.
Became better friends in the mid 1980's when Rick and I worked at the same place in LA.

We lost touch since then; I tried looking for her on Facebook last year, but none of the "Asenath"s were her.

I hold fond memories of her.
My best to Biohazard and the Kid.
(Who of course is a kid no longer.)


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http://www.facebook.com/neith.hammond

Neith Hammond (Asenath Katrina Hammond) Asenath Katrina Hammond 7/21/1950 -- 11/22/20102

The Kid is 25, although he wouldn't know me from a hole in the wall any more than Biohazard would.


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Oh, wait, I just realized who Gordon is, and that *we've* known each other (very slightly, in the most glancing sense) since at least 1981, if not several years earlier, since we were both at MidAmerCon in 1976, the World SF Convention Gordon mentions.

We're FB Friends, but it took me a moment to notice the email address.


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I'd like to add my condolences to you and all her family and friends, Biohazard, and reiterate that she was a great presence here at Unfogged and is very much missed.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 11-23-10 11:00 PM
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238: Will, she was extremely talented, funny, compassionate, and had the fiercely burning spirit of her Viking ancestors. She was cheated by being given a body and engine akin to one put together by Detroit's worst.

I consider myself extremely lucky to have had the 18 years total we had.

Okay. Enough said. Happy Thanksgiving, y'all. I am going to have T-dinner with my L.A. kids and we are all going to give thanks for her having been in our lives, and then we are going to go forward with those lives.


Posted by: Biohazard | Link to this comment | 11-24-10 3:53 PM
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Biohazard, I only had the privilege of meeting her once very briefly, but her wit, charm and sparkle came through even in that short encounter, as well as in her comments here. I am so sorry for your loss.


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 11-24-10 4:00 PM
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Love to you, Biohazard.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 11-24-10 5:45 PM
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